Russian drones over Germany: Why Bundeswehr can not intervene

https://www.euronews.com/2025/09/05/russian-spy-drones-over-germany-why-bundeswehr-can-not-shoot-them-down

by Forsaken-Medium-2436

47 comments

  1. Why can’t we just ask our dozens of drone startups to develop a drone to take surveillance drones down?

  2. Yes, we get it: the west is weak because our decision-making is either slow or totally paralyzed.

  3. It should be simple to define areas as “no-fly” zones and take out any offending aerial vechiles. It seems ludicruous that this isn’t happening.

  4. If Russia is allowed to send drones into Germany, Poland and Romania without any response shows us as weak

  6. It’s great. War in Ukraine and soon in the EU shouldn’t be the reason to abandon proper procedures and regulation.

    More over, who could have imagined such a thing could happen?

  7. Ridiculous to not address this. German citizens living in those areas are not allowed to record these transports but russia is….

  9. Drones and anti drones technologies are new and in continuous development. I guess the principle of not revealing to the enemy what you can *and cannot* do plays a role here. They’d likely down the drones if they represented a significant threat, but civilians safety and keeping capabilities secret may advise them to wait.

  10. Time to invest into drones with nets to capture Russian drones.

    I recall those have been used to fight smuggling drones in some parts of the globe

  11. We’re a laughing stock at this point. What’s next, a russian ships in Helsinki harbour?

  13. This is ridiculous. I´m sure that as a citizen I would have to request innumerable permissions to fly a drone over most of the places. However if you just don´t follow the law it seems that they can’t do anything abou it. Aparently Russians are coming here to fly their drones (because I´m sure they are not flying them from Moscow) and either we don´t care or we are stupid enough to not do anything about it

  14. Crazy that Russia is allowed execute military operations inside Germany.

  15. and people wonder why germans think their government is growing increasingly unable to act. This is a fucking joke. We are drowning ourselves in rules and the administration hides behind them to dodge responsibility

  16. They still didn’t get it, right? Russia is stepping back only where it gets fist in teeth, otherwise it keeps pushing even more

  17. Europe should understand that they cant/should not negotiate with devil putin. I know you like diplomacy but it doesnt work in russia case. You should behave like your enemy. We are not living in fairytale. Russia always hunting europe not there is no any answer. Russia know that,so they will continue to do it.

    You should understand you can negotiate with mafias.

  18. An absolute tragedy and disgusting. If we ever end up under dictatorships like Russia and China, it won’t be because we weren’t capable of resisting, but because we lacked the backbone and balls to do what was necessary. I don’t even know who to vote for in Germany; all the parties are either blatant puppets of foreign states or benchwarmers with no vision for the future or the courage to implement it. Hopefully Ukraine will win this fight, and I may move there afterwards.

  19. This, and those two drones that flew through Poland, making me wonder, if russians will decide to launch drones at Ukraine from Kaliningrad, would they be shot down or get a free pass?

  20. So, the Russian are trying any last ditched effort they can to scare European off from helping Ukraine?

    Seems like a good news.

    I think the Russian underestimated the fact that, regardless of the weakness of our government and institutions and the manipulation by social media on a significant portion of the population, we Europeans are absolutely aware of what “war” means, and we’ve experience the fact that avoiding wars on the continent, (whixh seemed impossible for the entirety of human history) is in a fact an attainable goal if we squash dictators an nationalists hard enough.

  21. Now thats my kind of humor, authorities getting in conflict about who is responsible resulting in no one doing anything. That’s truly German bureaucracy in a nutshell. Cmon, Shoot them the fuck down!

  22. “Despite the use of jammers, the drones could not be fended off.”

    Can someone explain why? Are they given specific coordinates and fly & inspect there autonomously? If yes, they probably have people on the ground doing preparation to enable that.

  23. Are we doing the same in Russia? Honest question.

  24. >However, the amendment to the Aviation Security Act (LuftSiG) was not passed during the last legislative period.
    Konstantin von Notz, a member of the Green Party and chairman of the Parliamentary Control Committee, criticised the CDU/CSU for not supporting the earlier proposal of the “traffic light” government due to “party tactical considerations”.

    Story as old as the Republic, blame the Government for not doing what *you blocked them from doing*. Good grief, am I ever sick of it.

    >”In view of the months of inactivity on the part of Minister Dobrindt, the states have long since run out of patience,” said von Notz.

    Would be nice if they could spread that far and wide via Media strategy. The Conservatives, especially distasteful wastes of air like Dobrindt or Spahn would not hesitate to do so.

    Don’t let off, especially when there is an obvious and important cause to do so.

  25. Cant you just emp that drone and keep it, rewire it and do a tour over russia

  26. It’s interesting for me: what the motives are for those who help the Russians launch drones in Germany?

  27. Lmao, they could have bombs dropping on their heads and they’d still be saying “let’s not make any rash decisions”.

    Guys, you have a war on your hands. Stop pussyfooting around the issue and fucking do something.

  28. > However, the amendment to the Aviation Security Act (LuftSiG) was not passed during the last legislative period.
    Konstantin von Notz, a member of the Green Party and chairman of the Parliamentary Control Committee, criticised the CDU/CSU for not supporting the earlier proposal of the “traffic light” government due to “party tactical considerations”.

    Great.

  30. Imagine if police worked the same way….we cant arrest criminals they might be armed!

  31. German here: If anyone invades us, we’ll probably apologize for thinking bad thoughts about resisting for a second and roll out the red carpet and flower girls.

  32. Time to bring back letters of marque and reprisal. Basically, if you down one, you can keep it. German drone owners would have a blast.

  33. Jesus fucking Christ with Europe these days. Germany especially. What next? An environmental impact assessment before being allowed to defend against a land invasion? Fuck me running we are screwed with shit like this.

  34. Absurd, i cant fly my mini drone but those fuckers can spy on mu beloved EU. Do something!

  35. Fuck this bystander shit.
    Inform the people in the area about potential danger through falling debris.

    Also these drones will be used to identify soldiers and private emoyees and target them with social hacking. They are already endangering everyone.

    Act fast and give our troops some training.

  37. That’s the dumbest defense policy ever. There are plenty of times they can be shot down over empty land. They act like they are carrying a nuke

  38. Germany may not be at war with Russia, but Russia may not be at peace with Germany. Applies to any country in the Western World.

  39. The Ukraine war has shown the need for European countries to have effective drone defence. And local police probably need stuff too, with authority to take something suspicious down without having to ask their prime minister. Russia is conducting hybrid warfare already in Europe and needs to be countered.

  41. Some people here are genuinely arguing to fire 30/35mm rounds randomly into Germany certainly take the cake today.

    The answer to these incursions are Drones that take out Drones, you can’t just willynilly fire AA, these rounds land somewhere in a country that has a pop density of 234/km².

  42. It would be quite funny, how inept the politicians are… if it weren’t so sad. Russia is operating on premise that NATO states are the enemy,, while said states are not able (or maybe just not allowed) to defend themselves.

  43. Why it cant? Because they can’t prove its russia. Like always shout without evidence

  45. Drones are tools to drop bombs on people

    If you allow a foreign drone to roam into your country, that’s means you allow them to bomb you

    It’s a very big security failure and a big proof of weakness

    Cowards.

  46. This brings a recent quote from NATO’s former #2 (who was french to be clear) to my mind:

    *There are 4 significant armies in Europe: one full army that lacks depth: the french; one incomplete army: the british; one army that will be very strong in a few years: the polish and one fictional army: the german*

  47. “Your drones seem to have suffered a massive malfunction by being forcibly exploded. We are returning the remains to you.”

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