More than half of Poles now oppose their country supporting Ukraine’s bid to join NATO, according to a survey by Polish media outlet Rzeczpospolita published on Sept. 4.
The results come as Kyiv seeks NATO and EU membership for security guarantees against further Russian aggression in case of a ceasefire or a peace deal.
In the late August poll of 1,069 respondents, 52.7% opposed Warsaw backing Ukraine’s NATO membership, while 33.5% favored it and 13.8% were undecided.
Poland should oppose it. Letting Ukraine into EU or NATO with their “heroes” is not the best idea.
Until Ukraine abandons Bandera, Szuchewycz, UPA and OUN and stops whitewashing Wołyń there is nothing to discuss regarding them joining.
The current Ukrainian administration has worked long and hard to achieve this result.
NATO’s constitution prohibits entry of countries in active conflict ?
Of course. I oppose Ukraine in both NATO and the EU – for now. They are nowhere near being “normal”. Too much corruption, too much unrest. In the state of war with no end in sight. Maybe in 20, 30 years they will be ready.
They’re not joining anytime soon anyways.
Did the majority of Poles vote for a Pimp as President, what does that say?
In 5 years, the majority of poles will think the EU is the culprit of the conflict, and Germany is a bigger threat than russia. Mark my words
Pretty sure thats how EU felt about Poland 25 years ago.
Maybe it’s a fate that Ukrainians are trying to run from but something is always opposing it. An impossible task sort of. Maybe we need to be consumed and accept this role of being the front lines of an upcoming war between east and west. After all everything is moving towards that direction: USA is weak, eu is torn by internal disagreements and seems to be the only one who is afraid of Trump’s tariffs, India is pushed towards China. Also tanks that are blown by optic-wire drones that cost around 500$ and shaheds that are easily overloading modern anti air defense and cost like dirt shows that modern warfare is returned to human wave trench wars and the amount of manpower is the main factor of winning the war.
Beautiful show of divided Poland and “as long as my neighbor doesn’t get anything I’m happy” attitude, known among Poles, especially from the groups mentioned.
Why the hell would you be against moving the NATO border to the East, moving away the potential future battlefield away? But no – Ukraine has cheaper agricultural produce, no matter if it’s unrelated. Suck up papa Putin’s propaganda and work towards what he wants.
Russian bots/shills thread.
I love whenever a poll says „More than half of Poles now oppose X!” Yet I’ve never been polled, nor do I know anyone who has been. Then you see at the bottom that the poll consists of responses from 800 corresponders. So I guess less than a thousand people showcase a whole nation outlook on a topic lmao
Since we’re talking about a military alliance, asking citizens for their opinion somewhat misses the point. Above all, it must bring strategic benefits.
How would that even work? For any new aggression, the current one, any new offensive?
And don’t get me wrong. NATO is mostly an anti-russia alliance anyway, and right now the nation who knows the most about fighting russia is… Ukraine.
So I guess I’m in the other 50%
Are all of these super pro Ukraine left-wingers willing to sacrifice health and life for Ukraine? If no, they should shut the f up and stop bitching about “far right Polacks being anti-Ujraine”.
Nobody wants Ukraine in NATO, because people know that it could end up in young boys dying for foreign country. I see zero problem with people opposing that idea.
Let’s support Ukraine as much as we can, but there’s zero chance my kids are dying for this corrupt post soviet shithole, while hundreds of thousands of young Ukrainian men are strolling thru streets of our towns, everyday.
How do we benefit from it?
They would prefer Ukraine being occupied by russia, after which rus army reinforced by involuntarily mobilized Ukrainians would attack Poland.
For some reason, in recent years I’ve had the impression that the opinion of society hardly matters to those in power. People protest, but the state does whatever it considers necessary.
Why seems to nobody remember fact that this country is one of the most corrupt country on the earth.
The only people who don’t want Ukraine to join are Russia. So we should all want them to join.
“Majority of Poles” also elected a pimp and a drug addict for president so not surprised
Of course they oppose it.
What if Russia invades and Ukraine shoots back to defend NATO territory and contain Russia causing WW3 this way.
NATO is only for countries that are not going to shoot back and let Russian drones confidently fly over their airspace.
Russian propaganda hard at work.
Again, Poles are to dumb to keep their own country.
Ja jebe, ale dużo idiotów redditowych
Naprawdę Reddit to lewacka ostoja, takie rzeczy tutaj piszą ludzie i im kurwa nie wstyd o.O
It’s sad that people seem to be falling for Russian propaganda.. there is no doubt there is manipulation at play… I mean, is it even true, or is it just a case of “say it and repeat it enough times and it becomes the truth”?
Let’s be realistic here. Having a direct NATO border with Russia is not good for everyone except maybe Ukrainians.
I know the war makers your precious fee fees hurt and all, but lets hope people with cooler heads will be deciding this one.
I oppose it joining NOW as by simple rule, you don’t join nations in active military conflict into a military pact, unless you want to be an active participant in it. Accepting Ukraine into NATO now will be equivalent to declaring war on Russia. Simple as that – and no one wants that. That doesn’t mean “never”.
O cholera! Ale się porobiło…
Russian propaganda. No poll linked, no clue who made the poll or is behind it.
Photo caption literally says “protesters” when the photo clearly shows supporters,
Do better Ruzzia. This is not enough, we haven’t forgotten your propaganda capabilities from when you invited yourselves in to Poland after WWII.
What’s wrong with European right-wing and Ukraine? I really don’t get it..
but Poland is also in NATO. so why don’t they want others to be there? a strange attitude to say the least. There is no help from Europe to Ukraine in its fight with the occupiers either.
Europe is scared of Putin… thats how low we have sunk.
I mean, rght now, they are at war. How would that even work, they join, and article 5 kicks in? Now, once they have peace, even for a bit, that’s a different matter.
What poll? Where’s the link? If this is the one I linked below, your post is manipulation! The poll says 37 % pro, 43% against, 21 % indifferent. Indifferent down not mean against.
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More than half of Poles now oppose their country supporting Ukraine’s bid to join NATO, according to a survey by Polish media outlet Rzeczpospolita published on Sept. 4.
The results come as Kyiv seeks NATO and EU membership for security guarantees against further Russian aggression in case of a ceasefire or a peace deal.
In the late August poll of 1,069 respondents, 52.7% opposed Warsaw backing Ukraine’s NATO membership, while 33.5% favored it and 13.8% were undecided.
Poland should oppose it. Letting Ukraine into EU or NATO with their “heroes” is not the best idea.
Until Ukraine abandons Bandera, Szuchewycz, UPA and OUN and stops whitewashing Wołyń there is nothing to discuss regarding them joining.
The current Ukrainian administration has worked long and hard to achieve this result.
NATO’s constitution prohibits entry of countries in active conflict ?
Of course. I oppose Ukraine in both NATO and the EU – for now. They are nowhere near being “normal”. Too much corruption, too much unrest. In the state of war with no end in sight. Maybe in 20, 30 years they will be ready.
They’re not joining anytime soon anyways.
Did the majority of Poles vote for a Pimp as President, what does that say?
In 5 years, the majority of poles will think the EU is the culprit of the conflict, and Germany is a bigger threat than russia. Mark my words
Pretty sure thats how EU felt about Poland 25 years ago.
Maybe it’s a fate that Ukrainians are trying to run from but something is always opposing it. An impossible task sort of. Maybe we need to be consumed and accept this role of being the front lines of an upcoming war between east and west. After all everything is moving towards that direction: USA is weak, eu is torn by internal disagreements and seems to be the only one who is afraid of Trump’s tariffs, India is pushed towards China. Also tanks that are blown by optic-wire drones that cost around 500$ and shaheds that are easily overloading modern anti air defense and cost like dirt shows that modern warfare is returned to human wave trench wars and the amount of manpower is the main factor of winning the war.
Beautiful show of divided Poland and “as long as my neighbor doesn’t get anything I’m happy” attitude, known among Poles, especially from the groups mentioned.
Why the hell would you be against moving the NATO border to the East, moving away the potential future battlefield away? But no – Ukraine has cheaper agricultural produce, no matter if it’s unrelated. Suck up papa Putin’s propaganda and work towards what he wants.
Russian bots/shills thread.
I love whenever a poll says „More than half of Poles now oppose X!” Yet I’ve never been polled, nor do I know anyone who has been. Then you see at the bottom that the poll consists of responses from 800 corresponders. So I guess less than a thousand people showcase a whole nation outlook on a topic lmao
Since we’re talking about a military alliance, asking citizens for their opinion somewhat misses the point. Above all, it must bring strategic benefits.
How would that even work? For any new aggression, the current one, any new offensive?
And don’t get me wrong. NATO is mostly an anti-russia alliance anyway, and right now the nation who knows the most about fighting russia is… Ukraine.
So I guess I’m in the other 50%
Are all of these super pro Ukraine left-wingers willing to sacrifice health and life for Ukraine? If no, they should shut the f up and stop bitching about “far right Polacks being anti-Ujraine”.
Nobody wants Ukraine in NATO, because people know that it could end up in young boys dying for foreign country. I see zero problem with people opposing that idea.
Let’s support Ukraine as much as we can, but there’s zero chance my kids are dying for this corrupt post soviet shithole, while hundreds of thousands of young Ukrainian men are strolling thru streets of our towns, everyday.
How do we benefit from it?
They would prefer Ukraine being occupied by russia, after which rus army reinforced by involuntarily mobilized Ukrainians would attack Poland.
For some reason, in recent years I’ve had the impression that the opinion of society hardly matters to those in power. People protest, but the state does whatever it considers necessary.
Why seems to nobody remember fact that this country is one of the most corrupt country on the earth.
The only people who don’t want Ukraine to join are Russia. So we should all want them to join.
“Majority of Poles” also elected a pimp and a drug addict for president so not surprised
Of course they oppose it.
What if Russia invades and Ukraine shoots back to defend NATO territory and contain Russia causing WW3 this way.
NATO is only for countries that are not going to shoot back and let Russian drones confidently fly over their airspace.
Russian propaganda hard at work.
Again, Poles are to dumb to keep their own country.
Ja jebe, ale dużo idiotów redditowych
Naprawdę Reddit to lewacka ostoja, takie rzeczy tutaj piszą ludzie i im kurwa nie wstyd o.O
It’s sad that people seem to be falling for Russian propaganda.. there is no doubt there is manipulation at play… I mean, is it even true, or is it just a case of “say it and repeat it enough times and it becomes the truth”?
Let’s be realistic here. Having a direct NATO border with Russia is not good for everyone except maybe Ukrainians.
I know the war makers your precious fee fees hurt and all, but lets hope people with cooler heads will be deciding this one.
I oppose it joining NOW as by simple rule, you don’t join nations in active military conflict into a military pact, unless you want to be an active participant in it. Accepting Ukraine into NATO now will be equivalent to declaring war on Russia. Simple as that – and no one wants that. That doesn’t mean “never”.
O cholera! Ale się porobiło…
Russian propaganda. No poll linked, no clue who made the poll or is behind it.
Photo caption literally says “protesters” when the photo clearly shows supporters,
Do better Ruzzia. This is not enough, we haven’t forgotten your propaganda capabilities from when you invited yourselves in to Poland after WWII.
What’s wrong with European right-wing and Ukraine? I really don’t get it..
but Poland is also in NATO. so why don’t they want others to be there? a strange attitude to say the least. There is no help from Europe to Ukraine in its fight with the occupiers either.
Europe is scared of Putin… thats how low we have sunk.
I mean, rght now, they are at war. How would that even work, they join, and article 5 kicks in? Now, once they have peace, even for a bit, that’s a different matter.
What poll? Where’s the link? If this is the one I linked below, your post is manipulation! The poll says 37 % pro, 43% against, 21 % indifferent. Indifferent down not mean against.
https://defence24.pl/polityka-obronna/czy-polska-jest-gotowa-na-wojne-co-mysla-polacy-o-armii-nato-i-rosyjskim-zagrozeniu-sondaz
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