Poland asks to invoke Article 4 of NATO treaty after Russian drones shot down
https://tvpworld.com/88836853/poland-asks-to-invoke-article-4-of-nato-treaty-after-russian-drones-shot-down
Poland asks to invoke Article 4 of NATO treaty after Russian drones shot down
https://tvpworld.com/88836853/poland-asks-to-invoke-article-4-of-nato-treaty-after-russian-drones-shot-down
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Well that at least some real actions followed up
How about unilateraly establishing an airspace buffer of 50km width along the Polish border in Ukraine, escorting or shooting down all unrecognized aircraft entering? Also supplying Ukraine with more AA and supporting drone and flamingo development in Ukraine more.
Those seem like appropriate steps.
Well, that’s definitely not a nothing response.
Let’s invoke article 5.
It was always going to be Poland.
Remind me.. What is article 4?
I heard EU countries are mulling a no fly zone over Ukraine, that would be based in countries like Romania or Poland. I think it’s about time for it to be implemented, because those very countries are actually under a threat now, and if nothing is done Putin will keep on “accidentally” sending drones to neighbourg countries.
Oh my Lord the NATO Secretary General will be quaking in his boots at the thought.
The Polish PM looks Pissed!! Would hate to get on his bad side!
No fly zone please, oh business as usual, strongly phrased words then.
It’s time to show Putin and Xi that Europe isn’t a paper tiger. Take out the drone sites and establish a no fly zone. Now.
Poland has one of the best armies in the EU. They got tired of being pushed around and have been building it hard. Russia really doesn’t want to fuck with them
FTA:
NATO Article 4 is a provision within the North Atlantic Treaty that mandates consultation among member nations when any of them believes their territorial integrity, political independence, or security is threatened.
Putin playbook:
Push on that tree.
But we can’t knock it over
I don’t care. I want to see what happens and we may learn something.
Trump will probably try to convince NATO to delay any actions by two weeks…
For those unaware, Article 4 is “Bro, serious shit happening; can we NATO bros TALK TOGETHER please?” whereas Article 5 is “Attack on one is an attack on all LET’S FUCK THEM UP!!”
That incident should be enough justification to establish air superiority and a no-fly zone.
Everyone craves that piece of Poland in September
I think a 100km buffer zone inside Ukrainian airspace where Poland can molest any unfriendlies seems reasonable. A clearly defensive response, but one that vastly helps Ukraine with military factories etc in the west
For those wondering what article 4 is:
> “Article 4 is generally considered the starting point for major NATO operations, and therefore is intended for either emergencies or situations of urgency. It officially calls for consultation over military matters when “the territorial integrity, political independence or security of any of the parties is threatened.” Upon its invocation, the issue is discussed in the North Atlantic Council, and can formally lead into a joint decision or action (logistic, military, or otherwise) on behalf of the Alliance.”
This is escalating quick.. soon someone will invoke article 5 – collective defence
Not saying Poland isn’t right, but Jesus,, imagine NATO’s resolved put to the test while its helm by a corrupted rapist man child..
>NATO Article 4 is a provision within the North Atlantic Treaty that mandates consultation among member nations when any of them believes their territorial integrity, political independence, or security is threatened.
For those, like me, wondering…
Give those russian terrorists hell on earth.
Just send some drones back towards russia and call it “a accident”.
I guess the US is dropping out of NATO 🤷🏽
No way in hell Trump moves against Daddy-Vladdy.
So, show us your Department of War or are we chicken again?
Do something now before it’s too late..
I agree with Poland. Their integrity was violated. I’ll never believe this was an accident – it was intentional or wanton recklessness on Russia’s part at best.
There needs to be a measured response agreed upon – a response is absolutely required.
What exactly is Putin thinking?
He can’t win a war against NATO. Even with United States on the sidelines, he would still lose. Poland one of the stronger military in Europe.
Russia keeps proving over and over again that NATO is necessary. If they didn’t expand, there would be boots on the ground in Poland.
Trump is going to side with Russia. I goddamn guarantee it.
This is a pretty big moment. The west has the opportunity to stand up for itself and we’ll see if anyone has the balls. It sets a very dangerous precedent to do nothing serious. Come on Europe/Nato.
This is why Trump is starting shit in South America. Now he can say sorry NATO, we are busy with our own shit.
Will be very telling on how America responds to this request.
Poland understands Russian aggression and psychopathy
Beware of the timing.
Russia, China, North Korea leaders just bonded last week or two.
Perhaps that’s why now.
We might as well skip straight to Article 5 at this point, so we can finally just get confirmation that the USA is now fully on Russia’s side.
Trump will refuse to take any action whatsoever, and will threaten to leave NATO if anybody else does.
I don’t think EU can afford to be in ruin a 3rd time, like…at one point it needs to stop
Yet another raspberry in Trump’s face from his Russian boyfriend
Poland knows that if Ukraine falls, they and the Baltic states are next. Putin would love nothing more than to restore the Russian empire of the Tsars and Soviet Union with himself as the leader.
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