“The right way” and it’s basically nothing but smash cuts of gish galloping and flustering college freshmen for gotcha clips and soundbites. Murder sucks but treating him like some paragon of debate is rewriting history.
A podcaster who was a giant within the MAGA world and no one else had any idea who he was. Still tragic this random guy died in the 46th school shooting this year. Thoughts and prayers.
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He was no angel, I’ll tell you that much. If Heaven exists, he wouldn’t be getting in. If Hell exists, he’s probably shocked to find he’s one of the demons, while burning for eternity.
“The Left” aka, anyone who’s not a right-winger, won’t bow, so now Trump wants to use force.
This was always the plan.
In 3 years, if we still exist, remember this the next time Republicans clutch their pearls. And ignore them.
…and Fuck Ezra Klein and the NYT for suggesting otherwise.
Any trans person, immigrant, person of color, any of those groups could have told the establishment media that. TPUSA has become a tool for harassment, especially towards trans people as I have seen in person when Riley Gaines went to the school that I attend as a grad student, solely to harass trans students. Charlie Kirk was a person who caused great harm, and there are a lot of people who won’t shed a tear seeing him get the harm they sent their way back to him. Not saying it’s moral, but as I’ve said before, if someone like Lia Thomas had been killed instead (assuming she hasn’t already considered her being out of the public eye for 4 years), Charlie would be the first person to cheer for her death just like he and his cronies did for Charlotte Fosgate, George Floyd, etc.
If you want to be a legitimate journalist, ask the people he’s hurt about how they feel about his passing.
The worst thing about this Ezra Klein piece is how Kirk for the vast majority of Americans is some unknown guy and the first thing they’ll hear from the NY Times is that he was a stand up and moral guy. I swear centrist like Klein just white wash everything even people like Kirk. If it was a leftist that got shot, they would demand that the shooter was released, they would celebrate like they did when that Minnesota senator and her husband got killed.
MAGA declaring war on half of America when they don’t even know who the shooter is pretty telling on how fucking stupid and gullible they all are.
He was basically rehashing the talking points of the US Nazi party that was active in the 60s but focused on young white men as his audience.
I’m amazed how the similarities are and that he was let in on some of these campuses.
seems like he fully embodied how the right practices politics….
Just another right wing grifter.
I’m sorry the guy is dead, but he spent the last decade doing whatever he could to murder the concept of good faith debate in this country.
TPUSA helped bring our politics to this terrible place, and the “debate” tactics they helped popularize are why creationists/flat earthers/general science deniers also get traction nowadays. Rather than evaluate actual evidence, people are trained to just react — which means affect and poise are paramount, nothing more. Because, let’s be clear, Kirk was not a good debater at all — he knew the ideological judo throws required to seemingly disarm his opponents, but he was more of a mesmerist than a debater. He knew how to produce the illusion of ideological strength and soundness, but it was just layers of smoke cast over base biases at any cost. He knew how to look smart *and* be a know-nothing at the same time.
Ultimately, I think that the right will seek to make him a martyr but ultimately fail to do so, as he is just more blood in the gutter at this point. And that’s sucks. It sucks that a bunch of children and a politico got shot on the same day and it’ll just be subsumed by the crimson tide of violence and political spite. It sucks that one side is going to point fingers at the other while wielding the cudgel against them.
There’s the Right Way, The Wrong Way, and The MAGA way.
I’m sick of hearing his shitty supporters tell us he was just sharing opinions
No he wasn’t. He was sprouting his dogmas and didn’t care who that hurt.
Edit – for the US people I’ve changed it to Dogmas to reflect his strong belief in these things, not just his opinion.
You are free to kick a hornet’s nest, I am also free to not care if you fafo. Constantly being a pos and spewing hate bring bad mojo on you, who knew…
It’s hard to give good faith responses to a man whose entire operation was a demonstration of bad faith argument tactics.
Yo. What the fuck was Ezra thinking when he wrote that???
I’m already sick of seeing him in the headlines when multiple people have been gunned down in the 24 hours since his death, including a school shooting which has gone almost completely ignored. A turd of a fringe podcaster is one of the least significant victims of gun violence this week.
The US has a chronic gun problem that Republicans have repeatedly blocked progress on solving – and gun violence has been the inevitable and ongoing result for decades. They’re only mad this time because it was someone they grifted with.
The same people who endlessly critique what slogans protestors use, or how they protest, will tell you guys that spend their entire life calling for the death of all Palestinians, Trans people, minorities and women who need health care are practicing politics right. As always, the elite class cares more about how you say something than what you are saying.
His last interactions say it all. He both pretends an outsized number of mass shootings are committed by transpeople and pretends the number of mass shootings is inflated by gang violence (*wink wink* black people)
Audience Member: Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?
Kirk: Too many.
Audience Member: The answer is five. Now, five is a lot. Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?
Kirk: Counting or not counting gang violence?
He wasn’t practicing politics he was grifting from idiots, and the idiots are the ones who get mad when you say that.
The media praising him as some kind of champion of free speech and debate is sickening.
He’s nothing but a grifter and a bigot.
He was an influencer, not a politician
I’m a married gay man, and I see his call for my marriage to be dissolved and for me to be publicly stoned to death as an act of violence every bit as severe as his murder. How can anyone normalize a demand that I be denied the right to exist, especially on the basis of a religion I don’t even believe in, as something that makes for an acceptable debate?
I might have disagreed with Kirk on just about everything, and I’m not going to sugarcoat it, he was a mouthpiece for this corrupt administration, a bigot and Christian nationalist who inflamed racial and political tensions. He was no hero of mine, but he didn’t deserve this.
What happened to Kirk was unforgivable. Political violence begets more violence and breeds more division and chaos.
And now his supporters are jumping to conclusions about the shooter’s motive and ideology, even though no credible information about the suspect has been released.
The hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance is baffling. On the one hand, many conservatives are responding to this incident with charged rhetoric of their own and calls for swift, violent retribution against their political opponents who they’ve instinctively blamed for the horrific actions of a single individual.
On the other hand, these same people have continuously downplayed or ignored countless other similar tragedies in the past involving culprits that have been radicalized by far right conspiracy theories, propaganda, and online extremist networks.
The fact remains—domestic extremism in the US is committed disproportionately by right wing radicals.
But conservatives overlook this fact while they prematurely speculate about these incidents to get out in front of those facts and control the narrative.
It appears that they are more interested in politicizing deaths like Kirk’s to reinforce and justify their hatred for their perceived enemies.
These conservatives are exploiting Kirk’s death to portray him as a martyr and victim of “radical left violence” without knowing the facts or without acknowledging the role that right wing extremists have played in this history of political violence and division.
It should also go without saying that they do not see this as an opportunity to address the underlying causes that contribute to gun violence in America.
> “Charlie Kirk… said during an organizational event on Wednesday that gun deaths in exchange for the preservation of Second Amendment rights is part of America’s reality.”
Ya, that’s pretty surreal…
And while this act alone was indefensible, Kirk represents just one of a chilling number of gun deaths in this country. He is not the first victim of political violence, nor will he be the last.
When a white male radicalized by far right dogma attacks and/or murders a democratic lawmaker and their family in their own home; opens fire on school children, federal buildings or minorities in a supermarket, the response is to downplay widely recognized systemic issues while decrying “mental illness” and offering meaningless thoughts and prayers.
But when a transgender gunman or a black man is involved in a high profile crime or shooting, it’s an issue of race, gender or leftist ideology, despite the fact that these individuals have obvious mental health problems that transcend race, gender or politics.
I’d argue that these conservative hypocrites don’t have a whole lot of sympathy for the victims of these tragedies. In some cases, they’re treated more like political props than anything else.
I think there’s a tendency from conservatives to politicize these attacks to justify their animosity, or their bigotry towards the communities of people they demean and vilify on a daily basis.
They’re eager to exploit these incidents to perpetuate certain stereotypes and push narratives that associate immigrants, minorities, the LGBTQ community, Muslims and their political opponents with violence, “domestic terrorism” and criminality.
They’re the ones manipulating these stories and capitalizing off of these victim’s traumatic experiences or deaths to incite violence and validate right-wing grievances—often resorting to the use of stigmatizing and fearmongering messaging that fans the flames of division.
They take excessive liberties in these situations to demonize and scapegoat out-groups and marginalized communities of people, and all while ignoring systemic issues and the growing number of incidents of political violence and extremism committed by the far right.
At the same time, the Republicans in power that they continue to elect have done next to nothing to address the underlying, root causes of crime, widespread gun violence and mental health problems among Americans especially.
In fact, Republicans are actively defunding and dismantling the programs, community support structures, social services, agencies, organizations and operations that monitor, manage and try to address these issues.
And let’s make something perfectly clear. Federalizing the military and local law enforcement to occupy the streets of cities around the country where Trump’s political opposition is most prevalent, is *NOT* how you even begin to address the root causes of crime and gun violence.
With all of that said, it is without question that this culture and political climate of hostility, violence and extremism is primarily a consequence of Donald Trump’s frequent use of inflammatory and divisive rhetoric, his cruelty, his assault on democratic norms, his constant politicizing of every issue, his normalizing of revenge as a political tool, his weaponization of the federal government, and his faux populist appeals to hate groups and their many grievances.
Ezra Klein loves the smell of his own farts so much. He craves his unique blend. What a piss poor take he had. I hope everyone sees how objectively shitty he is after this.
That wasn’t politics. It was a modern age social media click bait rage bait money making operation. Literally did nothing to improve any lives but his own.
I love it. This title is a shot across the bow to Ezra Klein at the NY Times whose repulsive column today was titled “Charlie Kirk was Practicing Politics the Right Way” and spent the entire column blowing Kirk as some kind of honest, free speech icon, who Klein envied, while completely glossing over the fact that, in reality, he was a massive piece of shit.
I’ll be real.
Being called a “threat to America” and a “Insane liberal” is exhausting as hell, and truthfully, something that could push one to do bad shit.
I’m not advocating for violence, but if people keep telling you you’re a horrible person, how long till that someone embraces it?
I can’t exist in this country without being labeled “Good” or “Bad” And it’s fucking exhausting.
Kirk said some terrible shit. It’s not controversial to point that out.
He had a right to say that sort of stuff, as we all do.
But Maga trying to “Silence people” for simply pointing out he’s not some angel, is not only hypocritical, but an incredibly massive risk to one of the main foundations of this country.
I’ll never say you can’t say X or Y.
I’ll tell you why you’re wrong, but I’ll never say you can’t say it.
Maga saying we can’t say any of this is not “telling” it’s a megaphone to anyone and everyone that they don’t care about free speech.
We should all be damned worried for the future, and demand our reps to stand up to Trump and Co, release the Files, demand transparency, or more UN-needed tragedies will continue.
Are we still talking about this guy? Not even close to the saddest act of violence that day, let alone week, month or year. Show me some files, end the genocide, or pass some gun control measures, then we can talk about the value of this one guys life.
The speed with which this racist, xenophobic, homophobic, misogynist’s mythology has been written is truly incredible. The Yankees — the fucking New York Yankees — observed a moment of silence for him at their game.
It’s incredible, and not in a good way.
Honestly, I’ll be glad when I stop hearing about this piece of shit human. He’s not worth any of this attention.
That Ezra Klein piece was 🤮 glad other outlets are calling them out.
Ezra Klein 🤝licking capitalist boots – nothing new here
My guy basically made a career out of bullying college kids.
The white washing and doxxing of anyone who criticizes him is so ridiculous. The dude was an asshole. He shouldn’t have been murdered. But he was still an asshole.
This guy was making a nice living spouting a love guns, hate diversity message to dumb, spoilt white kids. He was completely toxic. And now he learned the hard way what playing with fire can get you.
The idea that this guy was a warrior for free speech is laughable. Yes he had his views, yes they were controversial, no he did not value free speech 🤣
He was not practicing politics. He was selling hate and getting paid.
He cherry picked clips of himself debating college freshmen with no debate training and his media outlet posted them as “Charlie Kirk DESTROYS college liberal with FACTS and LOGIC”
Anyone pretending that’s remotely constructive political discourse is an idiot. He was a professional shit stirrer.
Ezra Klein’s article was pathetic. Not condoning violence doesn’t require ball washing the victims of violence, particularly those who believe murder is a satisfactory price to pay to minimize gun regulation.
As one person put it, he didn’t deserve it, but he got what he thought others deserved for him to have certain rights.
As far as I know, and tel me if I’m wrong here, he wasn’t a politician, an elected official, hell, he wasn’t even a census taker. He was a podcaster who started a hate organization for radicals.
You mean to tell me the guy who made bad faith arguments, was racist, thought imperialism was good, believed women should be servant, and advocated for the disappearance of trans people wasn’t practicing politics in the right way? I am shocked!
I do not advocate or support political violence but the whitewashing and glorification of him is disgusting. He was a terrible person
Ezra Klein’s ridiculous oped essay in NYT is a grotesque display of the white washing going on. Now the entire maga movement, without any proof, is claiming everyone who disagrees with them (who they lump together as “the left” regardless of actual policy positions) is behind this violence. What the actual fuck????! And when the democrats (and their DOG) in Minnesota were shot, no one on “the left” said they were at war with MAGA. WHY can’t they see this?? I mean the tweets and shit can be posted side by side but what the fuck is anyone gonna do when they can lie all day like this. At this rate I am jealous of Charlie Kirk because I want out of this fucking timeline.
First, I’ll stay at the obvious that no one should be assassinated like this.
I had never heard of Charlie Kirk so I decided to go into YouTube and watch some of what he stands for. I realize that America’s based on free speech, but the fact that people are making such a big deal out of his death says a lot about what kind of people they are if they listen to, and want to implement what he spoke
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“The right way” and it’s basically nothing but smash cuts of gish galloping and flustering college freshmen for gotcha clips and soundbites. Murder sucks but treating him like some paragon of debate is rewriting history.
A podcaster who was a giant within the MAGA world and no one else had any idea who he was. Still tragic this random guy died in the 46th school shooting this year. Thoughts and prayers.
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He was no angel, I’ll tell you that much. If Heaven exists, he wouldn’t be getting in. If Hell exists, he’s probably shocked to find he’s one of the demons, while burning for eternity.
“The Left” aka, anyone who’s not a right-winger, won’t bow, so now Trump wants to use force.
This was always the plan.
In 3 years, if we still exist, remember this the next time Republicans clutch their pearls. And ignore them.
…and Fuck Ezra Klein and the NYT for suggesting otherwise.
Any trans person, immigrant, person of color, any of those groups could have told the establishment media that. TPUSA has become a tool for harassment, especially towards trans people as I have seen in person when Riley Gaines went to the school that I attend as a grad student, solely to harass trans students. Charlie Kirk was a person who caused great harm, and there are a lot of people who won’t shed a tear seeing him get the harm they sent their way back to him. Not saying it’s moral, but as I’ve said before, if someone like Lia Thomas had been killed instead (assuming she hasn’t already considered her being out of the public eye for 4 years), Charlie would be the first person to cheer for her death just like he and his cronies did for Charlotte Fosgate, George Floyd, etc.
If you want to be a legitimate journalist, ask the people he’s hurt about how they feel about his passing.
The worst thing about this Ezra Klein piece is how Kirk for the vast majority of Americans is some unknown guy and the first thing they’ll hear from the NY Times is that he was a stand up and moral guy. I swear centrist like Klein just white wash everything even people like Kirk. If it was a leftist that got shot, they would demand that the shooter was released, they would celebrate like they did when that Minnesota senator and her husband got killed.
MAGA declaring war on half of America when they don’t even know who the shooter is pretty telling on how fucking stupid and gullible they all are.
He was basically rehashing the talking points of the US Nazi party that was active in the 60s but focused on young white men as his audience.
I’m amazed how the similarities are and that he was let in on some of these campuses.
seems like he fully embodied how the right practices politics….
Just another right wing grifter.
I’m sorry the guy is dead, but he spent the last decade doing whatever he could to murder the concept of good faith debate in this country.
TPUSA helped bring our politics to this terrible place, and the “debate” tactics they helped popularize are why creationists/flat earthers/general science deniers also get traction nowadays. Rather than evaluate actual evidence, people are trained to just react — which means affect and poise are paramount, nothing more. Because, let’s be clear, Kirk was not a good debater at all — he knew the ideological judo throws required to seemingly disarm his opponents, but he was more of a mesmerist than a debater. He knew how to produce the illusion of ideological strength and soundness, but it was just layers of smoke cast over base biases at any cost. He knew how to look smart *and* be a know-nothing at the same time.
Ultimately, I think that the right will seek to make him a martyr but ultimately fail to do so, as he is just more blood in the gutter at this point. And that’s sucks. It sucks that a bunch of children and a politico got shot on the same day and it’ll just be subsumed by the crimson tide of violence and political spite. It sucks that one side is going to point fingers at the other while wielding the cudgel against them.
There’s the Right Way, The Wrong Way, and The MAGA way.
I’m sick of hearing his shitty supporters tell us he was just sharing opinions
No he wasn’t. He was sprouting his dogmas and didn’t care who that hurt.
Edit – for the US people I’ve changed it to Dogmas to reflect his strong belief in these things, not just his opinion.
You are free to kick a hornet’s nest, I am also free to not care if you fafo. Constantly being a pos and spewing hate bring bad mojo on you, who knew…
It’s hard to give good faith responses to a man whose entire operation was a demonstration of bad faith argument tactics.
Yo. What the fuck was Ezra thinking when he wrote that???
I’m already sick of seeing him in the headlines when multiple people have been gunned down in the 24 hours since his death, including a school shooting which has gone almost completely ignored. A turd of a fringe podcaster is one of the least significant victims of gun violence this week.
The US has a chronic gun problem that Republicans have repeatedly blocked progress on solving – and gun violence has been the inevitable and ongoing result for decades. They’re only mad this time because it was someone they grifted with.
The same people who endlessly critique what slogans protestors use, or how they protest, will tell you guys that spend their entire life calling for the death of all Palestinians, Trans people, minorities and women who need health care are practicing politics right. As always, the elite class cares more about how you say something than what you are saying.
His last interactions say it all. He both pretends an outsized number of mass shootings are committed by transpeople and pretends the number of mass shootings is inflated by gang violence (*wink wink* black people)
Audience Member: Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?
Kirk: Too many.
Audience Member: The answer is five. Now, five is a lot. Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?
Kirk: Counting or not counting gang violence?
He wasn’t practicing politics he was grifting from idiots, and the idiots are the ones who get mad when you say that.
The media praising him as some kind of champion of free speech and debate is sickening.
He’s nothing but a grifter and a bigot.
He was an influencer, not a politician
I’m a married gay man, and I see his call for my marriage to be dissolved and for me to be publicly stoned to death as an act of violence every bit as severe as his murder. How can anyone normalize a demand that I be denied the right to exist, especially on the basis of a religion I don’t even believe in, as something that makes for an acceptable debate?
I might have disagreed with Kirk on just about everything, and I’m not going to sugarcoat it, he was a mouthpiece for this corrupt administration, a bigot and Christian nationalist who inflamed racial and political tensions. He was no hero of mine, but he didn’t deserve this.
What happened to Kirk was unforgivable. Political violence begets more violence and breeds more division and chaos.
And now his supporters are jumping to conclusions about the shooter’s motive and ideology, even though no credible information about the suspect has been released.
The hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance is baffling. On the one hand, many conservatives are responding to this incident with charged rhetoric of their own and calls for swift, violent retribution against their political opponents who they’ve instinctively blamed for the horrific actions of a single individual.
On the other hand, these same people have continuously downplayed or ignored countless other similar tragedies in the past involving culprits that have been radicalized by far right conspiracy theories, propaganda, and online extremist networks.
The fact remains—domestic extremism in the US is committed disproportionately by right wing radicals.
But conservatives overlook this fact while they prematurely speculate about these incidents to get out in front of those facts and control the narrative.
It appears that they are more interested in politicizing deaths like Kirk’s to reinforce and justify their hatred for their perceived enemies.
These conservatives are exploiting Kirk’s death to portray him as a martyr and victim of “radical left violence” without knowing the facts or without acknowledging the role that right wing extremists have played in this history of political violence and division.
It should also go without saying that they do not see this as an opportunity to address the underlying causes that contribute to gun violence in America.
> “Charlie Kirk… said during an organizational event on Wednesday that gun deaths in exchange for the preservation of Second Amendment rights is part of America’s reality.”
Ya, that’s pretty surreal…
And while this act alone was indefensible, Kirk represents just one of a chilling number of gun deaths in this country. He is not the first victim of political violence, nor will he be the last.
When a white male radicalized by far right dogma attacks and/or murders a democratic lawmaker and their family in their own home; opens fire on school children, federal buildings or minorities in a supermarket, the response is to downplay widely recognized systemic issues while decrying “mental illness” and offering meaningless thoughts and prayers.
But when a transgender gunman or a black man is involved in a high profile crime or shooting, it’s an issue of race, gender or leftist ideology, despite the fact that these individuals have obvious mental health problems that transcend race, gender or politics.
I’d argue that these conservative hypocrites don’t have a whole lot of sympathy for the victims of these tragedies. In some cases, they’re treated more like political props than anything else.
I think there’s a tendency from conservatives to politicize these attacks to justify their animosity, or their bigotry towards the communities of people they demean and vilify on a daily basis.
They’re eager to exploit these incidents to perpetuate certain stereotypes and push narratives that associate immigrants, minorities, the LGBTQ community, Muslims and their political opponents with violence, “domestic terrorism” and criminality.
They’re the ones manipulating these stories and capitalizing off of these victim’s traumatic experiences or deaths to incite violence and validate right-wing grievances—often resorting to the use of stigmatizing and fearmongering messaging that fans the flames of division.
They take excessive liberties in these situations to demonize and scapegoat out-groups and marginalized communities of people, and all while ignoring systemic issues and the growing number of incidents of political violence and extremism committed by the far right.
At the same time, the Republicans in power that they continue to elect have done next to nothing to address the underlying, root causes of crime, widespread gun violence and mental health problems among Americans especially.
In fact, Republicans are actively defunding and dismantling the programs, community support structures, social services, agencies, organizations and operations that monitor, manage and try to address these issues.
And let’s make something perfectly clear. Federalizing the military and local law enforcement to occupy the streets of cities around the country where Trump’s political opposition is most prevalent, is *NOT* how you even begin to address the root causes of crime and gun violence.
With all of that said, it is without question that this culture and political climate of hostility, violence and extremism is primarily a consequence of Donald Trump’s frequent use of inflammatory and divisive rhetoric, his cruelty, his assault on democratic norms, his constant politicizing of every issue, his normalizing of revenge as a political tool, his weaponization of the federal government, and his faux populist appeals to hate groups and their many grievances.
Ezra Klein loves the smell of his own farts so much. He craves his unique blend. What a piss poor take he had. I hope everyone sees how objectively shitty he is after this.
That wasn’t politics. It was a modern age social media click bait rage bait money making operation. Literally did nothing to improve any lives but his own.
I love it. This title is a shot across the bow to Ezra Klein at the NY Times whose repulsive column today was titled “Charlie Kirk was Practicing Politics the Right Way” and spent the entire column blowing Kirk as some kind of honest, free speech icon, who Klein envied, while completely glossing over the fact that, in reality, he was a massive piece of shit.
I’ll be real.
Being called a “threat to America” and a “Insane liberal” is exhausting as hell, and truthfully, something that could push one to do bad shit.
I’m not advocating for violence, but if people keep telling you you’re a horrible person, how long till that someone embraces it?
I can’t exist in this country without being labeled “Good” or “Bad” And it’s fucking exhausting.
Kirk said some terrible shit. It’s not controversial to point that out.
He had a right to say that sort of stuff, as we all do.
But Maga trying to “Silence people” for simply pointing out he’s not some angel, is not only hypocritical, but an incredibly massive risk to one of the main foundations of this country.
I’ll never say you can’t say X or Y.
I’ll tell you why you’re wrong, but I’ll never say you can’t say it.
Maga saying we can’t say any of this is not “telling” it’s a megaphone to anyone and everyone that they don’t care about free speech.
We should all be damned worried for the future, and demand our reps to stand up to Trump and Co, release the Files, demand transparency, or more UN-needed tragedies will continue.
Are we still talking about this guy? Not even close to the saddest act of violence that day, let alone week, month or year. Show me some files, end the genocide, or pass some gun control measures, then we can talk about the value of this one guys life.
The speed with which this racist, xenophobic, homophobic, misogynist’s mythology has been written is truly incredible. The Yankees — the fucking New York Yankees — observed a moment of silence for him at their game.
It’s incredible, and not in a good way.
Honestly, I’ll be glad when I stop hearing about this piece of shit human. He’s not worth any of this attention.
That Ezra Klein piece was 🤮 glad other outlets are calling them out.
Ezra Klein 🤝licking capitalist boots – nothing new here
My guy basically made a career out of bullying college kids.
The white washing and doxxing of anyone who criticizes him is so ridiculous. The dude was an asshole. He shouldn’t have been murdered. But he was still an asshole.
This guy was making a nice living spouting a love guns, hate diversity message to dumb, spoilt white kids. He was completely toxic. And now he learned the hard way what playing with fire can get you.
The idea that this guy was a warrior for free speech is laughable. Yes he had his views, yes they were controversial, no he did not value free speech 🤣
Charlie Kirk believed that gay people [should](https://x.com/patriottakes/status/1800678317030564306) be stoned to death, that the 1964 Civil Rights Act was [a “huge mistake,”](https://www.wired.com/story/charlie-kirk-tpusa-mlk-civil-rights-act/) that we should legally be allowed to [whip foreigners](https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-calls-shooting-and-whipping-migrants-southern-border-if-you-enter-we-have) in the U.S., that Muslims only move here to [destroy the country](https://5pillarsuk.com/2025/09/10/islamophobic-u-s-commentator-charlie-kirk-shot-dead-at-university-event/), that American Jews [encourage](https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-jews-are-experiencing-hate-we-white-people-have-been-experiencing-last) anti-whiteness, that men [should](https://bsky.app/profile/ripperoni.com/post/3lyjloionwc2f) physically attack transgender people, that all women [should submit](https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-tells-taylor-swift-submit-your-husband-and-have-ton-children) to their husbands, and that Black professionals [“steal” their jobs](https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/charlie-kirk-legacy) from more qualified white people.
No tears for a fascist.
He was not practicing politics. He was selling hate and getting paid.
He cherry picked clips of himself debating college freshmen with no debate training and his media outlet posted them as “Charlie Kirk DESTROYS college liberal with FACTS and LOGIC”
Anyone pretending that’s remotely constructive political discourse is an idiot. He was a professional shit stirrer.
Ezra Klein’s article was pathetic. Not condoning violence doesn’t require ball washing the victims of violence, particularly those who believe murder is a satisfactory price to pay to minimize gun regulation.
As one person put it, he didn’t deserve it, but he got what he thought others deserved for him to have certain rights.
As far as I know, and tel me if I’m wrong here, he wasn’t a politician, an elected official, hell, he wasn’t even a census taker. He was a podcaster who started a hate organization for radicals.
You mean to tell me the guy who made bad faith arguments, was racist, thought imperialism was good, believed women should be servant, and advocated for the disappearance of trans people wasn’t practicing politics in the right way? I am shocked!
I do not advocate or support political violence but the whitewashing and glorification of him is disgusting. He was a terrible person
Ezra Klein’s ridiculous oped essay in NYT is a grotesque display of the white washing going on. Now the entire maga movement, without any proof, is claiming everyone who disagrees with them (who they lump together as “the left” regardless of actual policy positions) is behind this violence. What the actual fuck????! And when the democrats (and their DOG) in Minnesota were shot, no one on “the left” said they were at war with MAGA. WHY can’t they see this?? I mean the tweets and shit can be posted side by side but what the fuck is anyone gonna do when they can lie all day like this. At this rate I am jealous of Charlie Kirk because I want out of this fucking timeline.
First, I’ll stay at the obvious that no one should be assassinated like this.
I had never heard of Charlie Kirk so I decided to go into YouTube and watch some of what he stands for. I realize that America’s based on free speech, but the fact that people are making such a big deal out of his death says a lot about what kind of people they are if they listen to, and want to implement what he spoke
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