Charlie Kirk shooting suspect doesn’t fit MAGA’s reckless political narrative

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-tyler-robinson-suspect-left-trump/86115056007/

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  2. and now they are trying to deflect everything because the suspect comes from a MAGA family. first 24 hours…. every one else is to blame. Second 12 hours … excuses…

  3. They’re now saying he was radicalized at college.

    He lasted one semester. In engineering. At the University of Utah.

    EDIT: It was Utah State actually. Which makes the insinuation even more absurd.

  4. They likely will do no introspection at all.

    They are thirsty for bloodshed and have the guns necessary to go door to door to murder anyone and everyone they think is “the left”, so that they can get a pool of blood to pour in a cup to sip on.

    The shooter was a confirmed 22-year-old politically unaffiliated person who had a right-wing social media page and a 4chan account, yet they still act like it was the left that did it.

    They are frothing at the mouth for their Herschel Grynszpan so that MAGA can make Charlie Kirk or any other right-winger whom they deem a martyr into their own Ernst vom Rath to set off their own version of the Kristallnacht.

  5. How many Republicans were calling for a civil war against people who want things like single payer healthcare? That’s what they all have in common. They can’t survive next to kindness so they spread hatred.

  6. They really keep saying today that he’s a radical lefty. Being a groyper has you solidly in radical alt right shit, even further than kirk and deep in fuentes territory

  7. What? It was not a Soros-funded black transgender MS13 liberal with ties to Hunter Biden’s laptop?

  9. Killed by the child of republicans who trained him how to shoot since he was young. So yeah, blame Democrats.

  10. He doesn’t fit their narrative nor is he the radical left boogeyman they’ve portrayed him as. But worst of all, it won’t matter. Instead of admitting fault or acknowledging it’s an even further radical Right than Charlie Kirk, they’ll just deflect. Why? Bad faith actors in democracy or domestic terrorists, take your pick on why.

  11. If MAGA wants to kill each other so badly, can they leave everyone else out of it?

  12. Of course it doesn’t. It’s always right-wingers who do this stuff but it doesn’t matter to them. They had literally zero information about the shooter before they startes to use it as an excuse to crack down on anyone who they don’t like.

  13. But seriously, no part of reality fits the MAGA political narrative.

  14. But some unverified person said he’s his friend and that he’s a leftist. Clearly, we can’t argue with that.

  15. Charlie’s killer went to school as long as Charlie did.

  16. Reality in general tends to not fit MAGA’s reckless political narrative

  17. I don’t really care. Do you? – Melania

    They built this hydra, they can take it down on their own. I’m ok with watching them off their own.

  18. Republicans being panicky reactionaries and automatically jumping into plotting revenge against their fellow Americans while all evidence is to the contrary? Nah they never do that

  19. It’s almost as of maga is wrong about every single thing in life

  20. The news is reporting that he’s anti fascist because of the “hey fascist catch this” on the bullet inscription. However they’re leaving out the ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️. The hey fascist catch this plus the up and down is a code in the game Helldivers 2. It’s not actually antifascist messaging. Also the news is talking about the Bella ciao inscription as well which yes does have antifascist connotations from the 1940s but it’s also recently been co-opted by groypers and 4chan and was used in the Far Cry 6 video game as a collectible song for once you complete an assassination mission.

    All the other inscriptions are other meme/edgelord/discord/chronically online sayings. Which the news either is not aware of because they have no idea about this section of online culture or they just don’t want to report on it.

    He also dressed up as Pepe the Frog for Halloween which is a meme predominantly used by the right.

    Also a groyper are people who follow Nick Fuentes who who hated Charlie Kirk because they thought he wasn’t far right enough. There was an ongoing feud between them

    Tyler was at the very least a chronically online edgelord/incel/troll gamer bro

  21. The pivot is, “it doesn’t matter if the *shooter* was a ‘radical leftist,’ or not. It’s all of the mean, hurtful, insensitive things said in the aftermath that proves without a doubt that anyone left of Joe Manchin is a violent extremist!”

  22. They won’t care. They made up their minds day one that it was a Democrat shooter.

    The right still says “they” tried to kill our president, referring to the left. The Butler shooter was a registered Republican, the other failed assassin was all over the place politically, hard to argue he was a lefty

  23. Just another edge lord memer with a family trained gun fetish like 90% of ’em.

    If they had literally anything to the contrary, Trump, Kash and Bongbong wouldn’t spend a second off camera.

    We know it. They know it.

  24. He was radicalized by Nick Fuentes and is a Groyper is what I’m hearing

  25. If you’re calling for the death penalty for this suspect, then be consistent—start with every single mass shooter rotting in prison after murdering innocent kids. Don’t cherry-pick outrage.

    This man wasn’t some saint. He built his name by antagonizing people, and acting shocked about that is either stupidity or willful ignorance. He got taken out by one individual—not a movement, not the left, not the right. Just one person acting alone. Period.

    And here’s the real hypocrisy: the same people screaming martyr over him stay quiet about the children who never even had the chance to form beliefs or speak their minds. Those kids were slaughtered by sick individuals with twisted agendas. Where’s the outrage for them? Where’s the fury for their stolen voices?

    Let’s cut the act. You got your martyr, propped up by a YouTuber who knew how to spin words and make millions feel stupid about their own beliefs. His arguments might’ve felt bulletproof, but the man himself clearly wasn’t.

    The truth? There will always be bad apples. But picture this: thousands of “Charlies” in kid form, wiped out behind closed doors, no cameras, no headlines. Suddenly it doesn’t make as big of an impact, huh? Doesn’t fit the narrative? That silence is louder than any speech he ever gave. Questions?

  26. Nancy mase yesterday said “dems own this!”

    Suddenly today she’s asking to pray for the shooter because that’s what Kirk would want.

    Hmmmm. Wonder what changed? I’m SURE if they were trans or black she’d say the same, right?

  27. The echo chamber sub is still so convinced that he is a liberal

  28. My MAGA uncle was asked by a friend if he would like to retract his comments now that he knows the shooter wasn’t a liberal and of course he just doubled down and said no because some people were celebrating his death. These people had their torches and pitchforks in hand before the body was cold and now they don’t know what to do but still want a fight.

  29. End of the day, the deafening silence on Twitter after the firestorm that was going on for the last 48 hours, tells you all you need know. Even if he had left leaning views, he’s a white guy from a Mormon family that are all seemingly Trump supporters. It’s hard to sell that so they’re going to grasp at straws for the next day or two and by Monday, this guy will fall into obscurity.

  30. He’s more radical Right than MAGA as he’s a Groyper. But the Right are saying he’s a trans Furry and Left-Wing terrorist. 

  31. And Trump and many on the right are still trying to use incendiary rhetoric anyway, despite the apprehended murderer turning out to have close ties to MAGA and appearing to be radicalized by Nick Fuentes.

    The UT Governor made them all look like absolute morons this morning and actually had a decent statement trying to lower the temperature, like literally at the same time Trump was on Fox and Friends still trying to rile up his MAGA base.

    That party is just so far gone now that they’re just waiting for ANY excuse to start a civil war.

  32. You don’t get it, the problem is not that it was a white conservative dude, again. The problem is that the MAGA cultists are primed for political violence in the name of Trump and are absolutely itching to find a reason, any reason, to justify political and racial violence against the other half of America. If not this then they will find another reason later to become “outraged” and if not that then another. The idea is to find the spark to ignite the fire of civil war.

  33. It’s _all_ projection. Every time they accuse the left, it’s something the right is actively doing. 

  34. Lol, just another case of right on right violent incident like the attempt on Trump that grazed his ear.

    Probably a goyper 4chan white nationalist chud who loved all Kirk’s positions except shilling for Israel.

  35. I saw them grasping for straws at an interview that was done with an alleged “friend” stating he was more liberal in high school even though his entire family was right-winged. In that same article it mentions that him and this “friend” lost touch towards the end of HIGH SCHOOL.

    Funny enough a lot of people over at that sub-Reddit are leaving out the FACT this “friend” hasn’t even spoken with the suspect for probably 5 years give or take and ignoring all the alt-right social media shit he was on today.

    Just for the sake of creating their own twisted narrative.

  36. > Are we all too obsessed with scoring political points off violence?

    I’m sorry, we? Normal people understand that these murderers are crazy loons. The only reason people are uptight about IDing them is because everyone knows the right is going to make a huge fucking deal about an anecdote in any way that will serve them (Laken Riley). Their media machine will weaponize any kind of liberal identity to fuel some incredibly hateful rhetoric.

    There are zero elected Democrats that glorify these shooters, regardless of their ID. Meanwhile, Republicans are talking about radical leftist trans whatever before we know anything about the shooter.

    Now that it’s all bullshit, it doesn’t matter. No punishment, no walk backs, no apologies. They’ll just move on, or even invent their own reality about what really happened.

    We can’t keep doing this.

    EDIT: And these same fucking people will implore use to not politicize school shootings too.

  37. “What do we want?!”

    “The Death Penalty!”

    “Well, what if he’s white, Christian, conservative?!”

    “We should have a long talk about violence in this country!”

  38. They were hoping it was a left leaning Black transgender immigrant.

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