>Kelly said the family were “shocked” that his killer, while being given a mandatory life sentence for murder, was told his minimum term would be 12 years when it could have been much longer if he was 18 or older.
So what exactly is their reasoning behind wanting the minimum sentence to be longer than 12 years?
Nothing about this case would suggest any obvious need for a longer sentence.
12 years seems appropriate given the context/age etc. I don’t get the issue?
I mean how dare the family think 12 years for murdering their son is too leninant.
Imagine calling the media the bloodthirsty ones instead of the evil bastard that butchered him
Let’s see some Guardian double speak on this matter shall we from this article
>Prof Ben Crewe and Dr Susie Hulley, from the University >of Cambridge, and Dr Serena Wright, from Royal >Holloway, University of London, found a dramatic >increase in the number of people serving life sentences.
>According to the findings, fewer than 100 people a year >were handed a life sentence with a minimum term of 15 >years in England and Wales between 2000 and 2003.
>By 2008, this had risen to 249 adults and as of >September 2019, 1,872 life sentence prisoners had >tariffs of more than 20 years.
>Last year, there were also 880 serving a minimum of 25 >years and 291 with a tariff of more than 30, excluding >those serving the whole-life tariff who are unlikely to >ever be released.
>The findings of the report indicate there was no clear >evidence that the latest rise in lengths of tariffs is linked >to changes in the nature or severity of offending.
Weird because 2003 was the largest single year for homicides in the UK in the last 19 years.
It was also the year when we sentenced only a hundred people to a life sentence with a minimum of 15 years.
Last year 880 people were serving 25 years and 291 people 30 years.
Our homicide rate last year was 600(or 681 if you want to go back before Covid.)
So it’s just a concidence that once we started handing out more life terms and harsher sentences for murder
Our murder rate dropped 30% in 17 years.
Despite the population increasing by 8 million(59 to 67) during that period.
Yeah nothing to see here.
I don’t want the Tories messing with the law any more than is absolutely necessary. I don’t trust them any further than I could push them with my piss.
The problem isn’t the minimum terms, the problem is the fact that every year after that that he’s still inside (or breaks his licence conditions and is recalled) the family will have to rehash it all for the probation hearing
The problem is that the probation service will then treat any reasonable requests (such as excluding him from the area they live) as an attack on the poor “rehabilitated” murderer.
The problem is that when he gets out that pain will still be there
You want to know how I know this? I’m living it. My father’s murderer is up for Parole again in June.
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>Kelly said the family were “shocked” that his killer, while being given a mandatory life sentence for murder, was told his minimum term would be 12 years when it could have been much longer if he was 18 or older.
So what exactly is their reasoning behind wanting the minimum sentence to be longer than 12 years?
Nothing about this case would suggest any obvious need for a longer sentence.
12 years seems appropriate given the context/age etc. I don’t get the issue?
I mean how dare the family think 12 years for murdering their son is too leninant.
Imagine calling the media the bloodthirsty ones instead of the evil bastard that butchered him
Let’s see some Guardian double speak on this matter shall we from this article
>Prof Ben Crewe and Dr Susie Hulley, from the University >of Cambridge, and Dr Serena Wright, from Royal >Holloway, University of London, found a dramatic >increase in the number of people serving life sentences.
>According to the findings, fewer than 100 people a year >were handed a life sentence with a minimum term of 15 >years in England and Wales between 2000 and 2003.
>By 2008, this had risen to 249 adults and as of >September 2019, 1,872 life sentence prisoners had >tariffs of more than 20 years.
>Last year, there were also 880 serving a minimum of 25 >years and 291 with a tariff of more than 30, excluding >those serving the whole-life tariff who are unlikely to >ever be released.
>The findings of the report indicate there was no clear >evidence that the latest rise in lengths of tariffs is linked >to changes in the nature or severity of offending.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/jan/27/prison-experts-longer-sentences-will-not-cut-crime
So there’s no evidence that changes in sentencing reduce violent offences like say murder?
https://imgur.com/a/F4Hak5g
Weird because 2003 was the largest single year for homicides in the UK in the last 19 years.
It was also the year when we sentenced only a hundred people to a life sentence with a minimum of 15 years.
Last year 880 people were serving 25 years and 291 people 30 years.
Our homicide rate last year was 600(or 681 if you want to go back before Covid.)
So it’s just a concidence that once we started handing out more life terms and harsher sentences for murder
Our murder rate dropped 30% in 17 years.
Despite the population increasing by 8 million(59 to 67) during that period.
Yeah nothing to see here.
I don’t want the Tories messing with the law any more than is absolutely necessary. I don’t trust them any further than I could push them with my piss.
The problem isn’t the minimum terms, the problem is the fact that every year after that that he’s still inside (or breaks his licence conditions and is recalled) the family will have to rehash it all for the probation hearing
The problem is that the probation service will then treat any reasonable requests (such as excluding him from the area they live) as an attack on the poor “rehabilitated” murderer.
The problem is that when he gets out that pain will still be there
You want to know how I know this? I’m living it. My father’s murderer is up for Parole again in June.