This isn’t some computer game. Such a bridge would be incredibly expensive to build and maintain. The Öresund bridge was a huge project and it is only a fraction of the scope and complexity of a bridge project like this.
There’s an active investigation of the idea going on in Finland. The project would consist of two parts: a ton of bridges between islands in the Turku/Åbo archipelago all the way to Åland. And then a tunnel from Åland to Uppland in Sweden. On top of this there already is an active project to build a faster and shorter railway between Helsinki and Turku, cutting the travel time a lot
Helt ärligt är detta något som jag gillar skarpt, visst hade nog kostat en saftig slant men ett projekt som bundit ihop Sverige och Finland både politiskt och fysiskt. Kombinera detta med snabbtåg, fan vi behöver fler megaprojekt mellan oss nordiska länder, lite prestige så att vi kan briljera med vår ingenjörskonst.
Ålandsbåtslobbyisterna har sagt det går inte. Fast på ålandska
From memory, because:
* It’s an extremely long distance over open sea.
* Much of the area is classified under natural protection laws, making it very difficult to find a suitable location for the bridgeheads and the roads leading there.
* It would disturb the marine life both during and after construction.
* It’s extremly expensive and possibly not worth the economic benefits.
If we talk about the same timescale as the Øresund Bridge – which was suggested around 1875, examined 1954, constructed 1995, and finished 2000 – this would be finished around year 2075–2125.
We’re going to build a bridge
And Mexico will pay for it
Might come at some point as there have been talks about it for a while but it do be crazy expensive and not worth it as it is now. But might still be a good investment for the future
Eftersom det skulle vara väldigt dyrt och ekonomin i bygget är ganska ensidig, med stort intresse från finska sidan men svenska sidan är lite mer “coolt, om ni betalar”.
Sedan är det svårt att driva det där, givet att umeå-vasa förbindelsen ser ut som en förbättring, om än mindre förbättring för godstransporter, men till lägre prislapp.
En konstigare situation är hur norge inte verkar vara intresserade av bättre järnväg från oslo mot göteborg och kontinenten. De bygger så otroligt mycket tunnlar så att dra en genare järnvägssträckning borde vara något oljefonden har råd med.
Det är på gång, finnarna kollar upp hur mycket EU kan bistå med. Men det skulle inte vara klart förrän omkring 2050.
Likadant i Kvarken, där vill man ha en bro och tunnlar för både fordon och järnväg. Kostnad 5-29 miljarder euro, beroende på vilket alternativa man väljer av sex olika förslag. Det kan rimligtvis kunna vara klart om 20 år. Förstudien är redan gjord och man har kommit fram till att det är möjligt att bygga detta.
bara om Finland också kapitulerar sig till oss, då finns det anledning att ena riket
Bättre att bygga en mellan Helsingfors och Tallinn. Bygg den tillräckligt låg, så ryssen inte kommer ut/in
They have discussed it
Not everything has to be interconnected. Let some borders be borders.
Because they aren’t stupid.
We’re not trading enough with Finland to justify the cost (it would cost at least 25 times more than we trade with Finland per year) and no one wants to transit through Russia to get to Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. Poland and everyone else is closer through the Öresund bridge. So what particular problem would a bridge here solve?
The bridge would be a fantastic, though expensive project! There were also some concepts of building a Hyperloop tube between Turku and Stockholm I think sadly nothing is coming from that. Also a bridge/tunnel between Helsinki-Tallinn would be great and the Finns could connect then to the upcoming Rail Baltica. I really wish these projects would see the light of day.
I fact there are on going invesrogations on the costs involed and of it would be a viable thing to do.
Tunneln kom ju ingen vart, så det blir nog ingen bro heller
(Sen vill jag inte att vi här på åland förlorar färjetrafiken + taxfree)
Very funny
Because it would be a huge goddamn thing and no one making those decisions think it would be an efficient investment. The boats run real good. If you need to run something overland, the detour around north is *doable*.
Also Åland is a bit of a haven of smaller society and a simpler time, i don’t think most of the population there would appreciate a fuckoff huge highway and railway cutting right through the islands.
A train tunnel from Eckerö to Hargshamn, to connect Helsinki and Turku to Uppsala and Stockholm, makes some sense, even though it would be incredibly expensive.
A big challenge is the fact that the sea is pretty deep there: there’s a gorge from north to south, reaching 270-300 meters. Same problem as with the Gibraltar Strait.
I am afraid that it won’t be financially possible, but given the situation in Europe, a train connection for mainly military and commercial transports is worth exploring.
Why would they ever fo this when the current traffic between Stockholm and Helsinki is sufficiently ferried already?
This would be a massive undertaking by two nations with a relatively small population. It’s not a realistic idea in the slightest.
Also, Åland. Those people are best left alone.
Varför har Google fått för sig att Åland inte är en ö? Det ser ut som att man kan ta landvägen från Åland till det finländska fastlandet
Om Finland inte hade förlorats till Ryssland 1809 hade den där bron säkerligen funnits idag.
There have been proposals to build bridges between Stockholm and Turku as well as Umeå och Vaasa. There has also been proposals to build tunnels. I guess what’s stopping it from becoming a reality is cost, and with an already extensive ferry traffic between the two countries, the benefits of bridges over ferries are probably not high enough to be worth spending tens of billions of euros on it.
I think the fee of traveling across Öresundsbron with a car is about 750 sek. The cost is motivated to cover the maintenance and such of the bride and tunnel.
In comparison, bringing the car on the ferry between Turku and Stockholm costs about 80 €. I recall.
Imagine how much the bridge fee between Turku and Stockholm would be if it would be in a similar model of Öresundsbron! In the end, I think there isn’t enough potential traffic to financially motivate such major infrastructure
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would the demand even be closely met
Begin with why they should
Cause it would be the longest bridge in the world and cost trillions.
Vem ska ta bron? Skulle vara 2h+ till Stockholm efter bron och betydligt mkt mer till Helsingfors.
[https://www.svt.se/nyheter/uutiset/svenska/naringslivet-vill-se-en-fast-bro-eller-tunnelforbindelse-mellan-stockholm-och-abo](https://www.svt.se/nyheter/uutiset/svenska/naringslivet-vill-se-en-fast-bro-eller-tunnelforbindelse-mellan-stockholm-och-abo)
There is a perfectly fine land crossing a bit higher up
This is actually in talks, the finnish side wants this
https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/a/gwxAy1/forslaget-fast-forbindelse-mellan-stockholm-och-abo
Sure if someone else pays for it
This isn’t some computer game. Such a bridge would be incredibly expensive to build and maintain. The Öresund bridge was a huge project and it is only a fraction of the scope and complexity of a bridge project like this.
I mean https://www.euronews.com/next/2025/03/08/will-a-bridge-across-the-baltic-sea-to-sweden-give-finland-faster-connections-to-europe
There’s an active investigation of the idea going on in Finland. The project would consist of two parts: a ton of bridges between islands in the Turku/Åbo archipelago all the way to Åland. And then a tunnel from Åland to Uppland in Sweden. On top of this there already is an active project to build a faster and shorter railway between Helsinki and Turku, cutting the travel time a lot
https://yle.fi/a/7-10083864
Helt ärligt är detta något som jag gillar skarpt, visst hade nog kostat en saftig slant men ett projekt som bundit ihop Sverige och Finland både politiskt och fysiskt. Kombinera detta med snabbtåg, fan vi behöver fler megaprojekt mellan oss nordiska länder, lite prestige så att vi kan briljera med vår ingenjörskonst.
Ålandsbåtslobbyisterna har sagt det går inte. Fast på ålandska
From memory, because:
* It’s an extremely long distance over open sea.
* Much of the area is classified under natural protection laws, making it very difficult to find a suitable location for the bridgeheads and the roads leading there.
* It would disturb the marine life both during and after construction.
* It’s extremly expensive and possibly not worth the economic benefits.
If we talk about the same timescale as the Øresund Bridge – which was suggested around 1875, examined 1954, constructed 1995, and finished 2000 – this would be finished around year 2075–2125.
We’re going to build a bridge
And Mexico will pay for it
Might come at some point as there have been talks about it for a while but it do be crazy expensive and not worth it as it is now. But might still be a good investment for the future
Eftersom det skulle vara väldigt dyrt och ekonomin i bygget är ganska ensidig, med stort intresse från finska sidan men svenska sidan är lite mer “coolt, om ni betalar”.
Sedan är det svårt att driva det där, givet att umeå-vasa förbindelsen ser ut som en förbättring, om än mindre förbättring för godstransporter, men till lägre prislapp.
En konstigare situation är hur norge inte verkar vara intresserade av bättre järnväg från oslo mot göteborg och kontinenten. De bygger så otroligt mycket tunnlar så att dra en genare järnvägssträckning borde vara något oljefonden har råd med.
Det är på gång, finnarna kollar upp hur mycket EU kan bistå med. Men det skulle inte vara klart förrän omkring 2050.
Likadant i Kvarken, där vill man ha en bro och tunnlar för både fordon och järnväg. Kostnad 5-29 miljarder euro, beroende på vilket alternativa man väljer av sex olika förslag. Det kan rimligtvis kunna vara klart om 20 år. Förstudien är redan gjord och man har kommit fram till att det är möjligt att bygga detta.
bara om Finland också kapitulerar sig till oss, då finns det anledning att ena riket
Why would they?
I watched a video about a similar thing recently:
[A $33 trillion dollar bridge between Umeå and Vaasa.](https://youtu.be/M53Bok_ixMk?si=-Z4guebC_X46CuG5)
It’s just too expensive, and that northern spot is more affordable than a bridge at Åland.
Va e det för muppkarta ?
Finns ett projekt som heter ”The Kvarken Bridge” som är ett förslag som ska sträcka sig mellan Umeå och Vaasa!
Osäker på vilket stadie de är i nu, men senast jag tittade så kollade de på om det ens var möjligt.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kvarken_Bridge
Va fan är det för karta? 😂
Bättre att bygga en mellan Helsingfors och Tallinn. Bygg den tillräckligt låg, så ryssen inte kommer ut/in
They have discussed it
Not everything has to be interconnected. Let some borders be borders.
Because they aren’t stupid.
We’re not trading enough with Finland to justify the cost (it would cost at least 25 times more than we trade with Finland per year) and no one wants to transit through Russia to get to Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. Poland and everyone else is closer through the Öresund bridge. So what particular problem would a bridge here solve?
The bridge would be a fantastic, though expensive project! There were also some concepts of building a Hyperloop tube between Turku and Stockholm I think sadly nothing is coming from that. Also a bridge/tunnel between Helsinki-Tallinn would be great and the Finns could connect then to the upcoming Rail Baltica. I really wish these projects would see the light of day.
I fact there are on going invesrogations on the costs involed and of it would be a viable thing to do.
Tunneln kom ju ingen vart, så det blir nog ingen bro heller
(Sen vill jag inte att vi här på åland förlorar färjetrafiken + taxfree)
Very funny
Because it would be a huge goddamn thing and no one making those decisions think it would be an efficient investment. The boats run real good. If you need to run something overland, the detour around north is *doable*.
Also Åland is a bit of a haven of smaller society and a simpler time, i don’t think most of the population there would appreciate a fuckoff huge highway and railway cutting right through the islands.
A train tunnel from Eckerö to Hargshamn, to connect Helsinki and Turku to Uppsala and Stockholm, makes some sense, even though it would be incredibly expensive.
A big challenge is the fact that the sea is pretty deep there: there’s a gorge from north to south, reaching 270-300 meters. Same problem as with the Gibraltar Strait.
I am afraid that it won’t be financially possible, but given the situation in Europe, a train connection for mainly military and commercial transports is worth exploring.
Why would they ever fo this when the current traffic between Stockholm and Helsinki is sufficiently ferried already?
This would be a massive undertaking by two nations with a relatively small population. It’s not a realistic idea in the slightest.
Also, Åland. Those people are best left alone.
Varför har Google fått för sig att Åland inte är en ö? Det ser ut som att man kan ta landvägen från Åland till det finländska fastlandet
Om Finland inte hade förlorats till Ryssland 1809 hade den där bron säkerligen funnits idag.
There have been proposals to build bridges between Stockholm and Turku as well as Umeå och Vaasa. There has also been proposals to build tunnels. I guess what’s stopping it from becoming a reality is cost, and with an already extensive ferry traffic between the two countries, the benefits of bridges over ferries are probably not high enough to be worth spending tens of billions of euros on it.
I think the fee of traveling across Öresundsbron with a car is about 750 sek. The cost is motivated to cover the maintenance and such of the bride and tunnel.
In comparison, bringing the car on the ferry between Turku and Stockholm costs about 80 €. I recall.
Imagine how much the bridge fee between Turku and Stockholm would be if it would be in a similar model of Öresundsbron! In the end, I think there isn’t enough potential traffic to financially motivate such major infrastructure
För att inte ge ryssen en gratis ingång.
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