Polish FM calls on Europe to abandon ‘futile’ plans for Ukraine security guarantees | Sikorski tells Kiev conference that any security guarantees would be ‘neither convincing nor trustworthy’ and dismisses ‘coalition of the willing’: “Simply put, no one wants to actually fight Russia”

https://www.eurointegration.com.ua/rus/news/2025/09/13/7220154/

Posted by 1DarkStarryNight

10 comments

  1. He’s correct, it’s silly to keep dumping weapons into Ukraine and draining the NATO stockpile rather than bolstering the armament in the nations bordering Belarus, Ukraine, and Russia, in order to ward off a future conflict with the revitalized Russian military we’re seeing now. Slow-walking Russia across Ukraine right to the border of a disarmed EU is an incredibly poor plan.

  2. Poland’s foreign minister Sikorsky told a Kiev conference that the effectiveness of any Ukraine security guarantees would be 0, and urged Europe to abandon the plans.

    Sikorski pointed out that Ukraine ‘already has’ guarantees, through the Budapest memorandum, which Western signatories failed to fulfill. Additional guarantees will not work, he believes.

    “They [pro-war Western politicians] say that if you attack Ukraine, we will go to war to defend it. That we, [the West], will go to war against Russia. And I don’t think this is convincing, that it is trustworthy. Anyone that wants to fight Russia can do it, right now.

    “I don’t see anyone willing to do it.

    “In international relations, there is nothing worse than providing guarantees that are not trusted”, concluded.

    A (until recently) BBC journalist commented on the story:

    > So, Nato membership was a lie all along. A clear lie since the Bucharest summit in 2008.

    > What was the necessity of throwing Ukraine under the Russian bulldozer when it was possible to build relations with Russia and gradually integrate it in Euro-Atlantic structures? Alongside Ukraine within its 1991 borders.

  3. Has been clear for a while now , funny that they now openly say it after how many people died and how many still die until this reality is being forged into some kind of partition agreement

  4. I think unless Russia gets a breakthrough & moves on Odesa, a direct Russia-NATO war will be avoided.

    Instead, both sides will expend a lot of energy trying to convince their population (and especially their hawks) that they won and the other side lost. Expect to see a lot of AI usage to depict the other side as collapsing.

    Finland’s Stubb is doing this for the NATO side, equating Ukraine’s situation with Finland’s after WW2.

    And of course Russian officials & analysts bring up the “washing machines & shovels” bit from Ursula + promises for 1991 or 2014 borders & Russia’s ability to not be isolated.

  5. we are gonna have to fight them willingly or not, do we want to do it from beyond the dnipr river or not is the question. 

    We supplement Ukraine with troops, nothing more nothing less than we deem fit. If ukraine loses and gets absorbed into russia we are dealing with 2x the force 

  6. I stopped believing that the West was actually invested in protecting Ukraine a few months into the war. I wouldn’t say that the West didn’t help or that Ukraine could have made it without them. But, the way military aid was provided to Ukraine imo was made so that Ukraine always had barely enough to survive but never to actually push back the enemy in a decisive way. I don’t think western politicians actually cared about saving Ukraine. They just found a great opportunity to drain russia out of resources with minimal investment, in the end the only one to really suffer was the young Ukrainians thrown into the war machine with no real hope of winning.

  7. Sikorski is right. Another round of guarantees is worthless. The only meaningful way forward is through arming Ukraine to the point where they can not only defend themselves but also strike—especially at Russia’s economy, which is on its last legs. No guarantees, no false peace, no recognition of stolen territories. Strike until Moloch falls dead—and then strike some more to make sure it never comes back.

  9. well the eu or nato may be forced by circumstances into a change or rearrangement of expectations and duties, or even an expulsion of a nato member.

    it may be these organizations were designed to work in peaceful times and expected peaceful future. Trade would keep the peace they thought. it may be the eu and nato do not work so well with war and threat of war at the borders

  10. dude spitting some hard truths that nobody in europe wants to listen to. at this point, the best case scenario is that it drags on until russia collapses before ukraine.

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