U.K, Canada and Australia formally recognize a Palestinian state, breaking with the U.S.

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/uk-canada-australia-formally-recognize-palestine-state-rcna232588

43 comments

  1. Feels more like giving the finger to Trump than anything else.

  2. And who is surprised that US soft power has receded?

  4. Interesting how many reactions I have seen seem to be anger from both sides. The pro-Israel side obvious reasons, and pro-Palestine side simply regarding this as an empty symbolic gesture.

  5. France, Portugal, Belgium, Portugal, Luxembourg and New Zealand to follow

  6. The Orange Thing and Congress sent a threatening letter to the other leaders about this. Well, Orange Thing, you don’t control the world, especially Canada.

  7. The US has blown up its soft power to influence the rest of the world with its needless trade war and treatment of its traditional allies.

    As a result, the rest of the world will increasingly be going its own way.

  8. The world should take note. It’s going to be a long time before the United States settles down. It doesn’t absolve the world from sitting on its hands.

  9. Cool. Now maybe we can finally stop taking about this as if it is an action that will change anything.

  11. Starmer addressed this correctly a day or two ago. A new non-hamas government needs to be formed. If you have to condition your recognition like that, maybe its too soon to do such a recognition. Now what are these countries actually going to DO to facilitate a peaceful Palestinian government? Its time to force hamas to sign a peace treaty, like many losers of a war have done. And from there, the conditions of the treaty will determine the transition authority and future government. 

  12. They recognized a state that discriminates against women, LGBTQ people and non-Muslims. Shame on these countries for betraying their own values and rewarding terrorism and Islamic extremism. This is as bad as recognizing the ISIS Caliphate.

  13. Does this mean the Palestinian state can be held accountable for electing and fostering a terrier group?

    Edit: thanks autocorrect

  18. “breaking with the U.S.” is becoming more and more common around the globe. It’s the consequence of electing a corrupt clown show that has broken all the rules and laws both domestically and internationally. It’s as if they want to be all alone.

  19. Good.

    When Palestine is officially a state participating in the international society we can hold them accountable against their responsibilities.

    No more, “you can’t blame us for anything, because we’re not actually a real country”.

    I know this is the kind of recognition the Palestinians and their supporters have sought after for decades, but is accountability really something they want?

    Israel have deliberately refused to pay back tolls and taxes to the Palestinian government, because the Palestinian government can’t document or prove the money isn’t siphoned away into personal accounts in Qatar and Saudi Arabia, but in this specific scenario, Israel was the “bad guy” for demanding accountability.

    The common theme with Palestine is ACCOUNTABILITY, and those who’ve been in charge of Palestine have avoided it, leaving the population to take the blame (and hurt) for them, sadly.

  20. It’s not an empty gesture. It further isolates Israel on the world stage while the USA shows how little soft power has even on it’s traditional allies. Qatar is also rallying to get Israel out of FIFA/UEFA which has almost everyone on its side if is being put to a vote next week, which obviously means even more isolation for Israel.

    Sure Netanyahu will not be deter in his quest to turn Gaza to dust with USA unconditionally supporting him, but now Israel is going to feel the isolation on its skin for the first time in recent history.

  21. “… breaking with the U.S.”.

    Get used to hearing this.

  22. >“The current Israeli government is working methodically to prevent the prospect of a Palestinian state from ever being established,” he said.

    >“It has pursued an unrelenting policy of settlement expansion in the West Bank, which is illegal under international law. Its sustained assault in Gaza has killed tens of thousands of civilians, displaced well over one million people, and caused a devastating and preventable famine in violation of international law,” Mr. Carney said.

    >He said it’s now “the avowed policy of the current Israeli government that ‘there will be no Palestinian state.’”

    Pretty much the Canadian government stopped viewing Israel as someone that can work with them regarding Palestine. The interests of the two governments are too different

  23. What would realistically end up happening, is that all those allies nations would spend trillions of dollars doing all this and even with enforcement, one side would still try and kill the others. This would never work. I’m not trying to be pessimistic but this isn’t an easy solution like some people think.

  24. Love to see us breaking any and all ties with the US right now!

  25. Israeli here with a controversial (sadly) opinion: a Palestinian state is a good thing for all. :ducks:

  26. This is very good news.

    Can we recognize Taiwan next?

  27. So can Israel turn off the water, power, cell service and aid now?

    ‘Good luck guys. Also, your airspace and shores are closed due to high levels of terrorist activities.’

  28. I have a hard time leaving looking at news like this as anything more than too little, too late.

  29. Does this really matter, tho? It’s pretty clear Israel is not dealing with the terrorists anymore. Those days are over. There is no way they would ever allow tunnels, a build up, attacks, etc to ever come out of that area, again, ever.

  30. donnie’s gonna be mad. Can’t wait for the rant

  31. Trump gives Netanyahu a blank cheque and says do what you want.
    A bunch of countries say “we still care about the thing before”.
    Nothing changes.

    Except of course we now in the ‘League of Nations’ zone of international relations.

  32. i’m willing to do so as soon as they constitute themselves democratically

  33. No doubt all the conditions were met for them to deserve statehood?

    Glad we held them to those democratic principles /s

  36. Hope Israel goes hard in the next few weeks. Let’s see how helpful this is for the Palestinians. Glad the world decided to shoot its blank shot now. Europe’s new message to the world: “come murder and rape our kids, we’ll reward you for it!” Hope your grandkids enjoy refugee-camp food. Idiots.

  37. Didn’t most of their agreements to recognize Palestine require elections and the elimination of Hamas? Just gonna ignore those and push it through anyways?

    Way to reward terrorism.

  38. Is this because the UK said Palestine Action was a terrorist organization and they need to appease the other side now?

  39. At some point they will have to reconcile with the reality of such state not existing ever, now and, likely, in the future.

  40. You cannot support a two state solution whilst not recognizing one state, it’s literally any oxymoron. This won’t solve the issue, but it’s definitely a small step in a direction that vaguely resembles more peace than before.

    Considering the caution they’ve showcased regarding this, it seems they are doing it sanely and soberly. This is a good move, and I’m glad my country (Canada) is doing so even if the US has publicly threatened us to stop.

    They can go fuck themselves

  41. Ah, man. We’re never going to be allowed at the grown ups table again.

  42. Sounds like three countries are about to have some odd problems arise internally.

  43. If I am not much mistaken, this headline is wrong about Canada. They recognized Palestine conditionally on a bunch of conditions it is entirely clear will not be fulfilled by the Palestinian side. The others recognized Palestine.

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