No shit Sherlock! Why’d it take so long to realise this?
We shouldn’t have social housing. I shouldn’t have my tax money working agaiant me when I can’t buy a house myself.
Working people shouldn’t have to rely on social housing 😞
Does anyone have a number for how many people that are on the housing list that have never worked , excluding single parents.
I’d imagine it’s actually fairly low.
Just more government shite pushing the narrative that poor people are the problem and that’s why you don’t have a gaff.
From a fucking landlord to !
I actually genuinely believe in this. If people building homes are comfortable such as labourers which are vitally needed their productivity would go up and more homes built for more people etc. It would also actively encourage people seeking the council house route to work too.
Not at all divisive
No. Thats a dystopian nightmare. Every human being needs a home. Human beings that don’t have jobs need this. Some with jobs do also but the ones without jobs are more likely to need it more.
Your value as a person does NOT hinge on your income.
Everyone should have equal priority for social housing. Currently workers are disadvantaged in accessing social housing. This is creating a negative incentive for people to leave jobs to get housing.
I have days where I feel like giving up my job and going on the wello.
My lovely neighbour doesn’t work, never has and never will. Gets EVERYTHING and I mean everything handed to her.
Clothes and toys for her kids (while she abuses them) council house which she has smashed up. She smashed up the new kitchen they put into it three years ago and they spent last week putting a brand new one.
Vouchers from St. Vincent’s and other charities. She also gets extremely reduced crèche rates (she doesn’t work, she shouldn’t be taking THREE crèche places that people who work need)
You know when she gets child benefit , because the dealer is in twice a day the first week of the month.
We both work and at time will go without so our kids can have.
“I hear you’re a communist now Minister Troy”
On a serious note, the quote is likely taken out of context, but it still states the obvious. I would go a step further:
Everyone who cannot afford a house due to financial reasons—workers, the homeless, etc.—should be provided with housing until they can purchase one outright. However, housing priority should be given to workers and/or people with disabilities
I expect that social housing, the fraction of any new build in all estates, would be more welcome if the occupants were seen to be working instead of passive consumers of state aids. Yes there are hardship stories, there are also the opposite.
A family down on it’s luck but working and trying to make the best of it deserves respect and support.
Isn’t this the lad who had a dozen slumlord apartments and got found out?
Can see why he doesn’t want his victim base to be housed.
Tired, so tired of sound bites and plans for plans. Refreshed every 2 years with a cabinet shuffle and nothing improves. I just want fairness, build affordable housing, let the state own them forever. Excel apprenticeship programs to look after all the state properties.
Vast majority of social housing is already occupied by workers. This idea that social housing is only for dolers is just the usual pub talk rubbish.
The trick is to get on the list with a low paying job then once you get the accommodation you can get a better paying job or just work part time as your rent is calculated by income.
Millionaire Minister with 11 properties in his portfolio wants us to talk about anything but their own failure/greed
Yes about time they said it.
I pay such enormous tax but living with my parents.
Aren’t we at effectively full employment? I don’t get why the government is trying so hard to push the final remainder into full time employment as I’d say the remainder is tiny and is either people who life choices allow them to not work full time or don’t want to to do other stuff.
Sure of course there is fraud and people cheating the system but I would say that is very tiny percentage. The rest then of course is those who can’t work full employment due to disabilities, illness or other legitimate reasons.
So this idea to me seems pointless just virtue signaling from the minister trying to look like the government is doing something since he said himself that was a not including those with legit reasons for not having full employment which means imo this wouldn’t speed anything up in the social housing system.
I’d say r/ireland will love this… (sarcastic)
He’s trying to redirect blame for the crisis from FF/FG to poor people.
This bastard has 11 properties. He benefits from the housing crisis.
Don’t let him fool you the rich are your enemy. He should be paying tax through the nose for hoarding housing like that.
No. The most needy should get priority.
Working people shouldn’t need social housing you absolute clown
I’m losing the will to both work and live because of housing. But Robert Troy owns multiple properties so he can absolutely shut the fuck up about housing while he’s still a parasite
Is this the same fella who forgot he owned a second gaff?
Can they just put some data on this? How many houses, allocated to which workers – as it stands, workers like nurses are expected to be employed near hospitals, which are now centralised in cities, but will they be competing with higher paid workers like teachers and civil servants who can be more distributed – but prefer living in cities anyway.
All of this needs to have some stats on housing figures and social housing qualifications, but yes – there should be public housing units for non workers, and social housing providing funded and subsidised units for workers.
Rather than talking about something so ridiculously divisive thats too impractical to actually implement, they could change some parts of the process to help workers while also not impacting the current list system of who gets a house.
Specifically, for the “area of choice” part of an application they should have additional factors considered here like employment history, current employment status, commuting needs etc. So workers now get prioritised housing in city centres close to work or with minimum commuting and non workers can live in areas further out. (Not rural, could still be within a reasonable commute time outside rush hour)
Or something like that I guess?
This is a smoke screen. Ireland has a very low rate of unemployment. There is no lack of workers, but there is a clear lack of housing.
Why not just skip the middle man and give the houses directly to the corporations, who can then give it to their workers if they choose to. Just lean fully into techno feudalism 👌 useless government is useless
Is there actually such a thing as a politician that isn’t a natural wanker
Fight amongst yourselves, We’ve fucked everything so much that we ask you to battle between working poor and pregnant poor – show me your tax receipts
Oh fuck off minister. I’m so exausted with this look over there shite.
Oh fuck off minister. I’m so exausted with this look over there shite.
What social housing
Workers _building social housing_ should get priority for social housing.
And the state should hire _as many people as it takes_ to get it done.
A Job Guarantee – with exclusively the state employing people, no private contracts – geared towards building houses, open to anyone employed/unemployed (with all necessary training), and those building get housed _first_.
Workers shouldn’t require social housing!
Great. Now *fucking build it*.
If workers get priority, the state better start lashing up houses like there’s no tomorrow.
A person working full time hours should be able to house themselves, Landlords should not be allowed to hoard property, Companies should not be allowed to buy residential property, Commercial property owners should be incentivised to convert to residential if they cannot find commercial tenants and most importantly the politicians responsible for housing policies should not be Landlords or hold positions in property investment.
Everyone should be entitled to social housing. From the unemployed to middle class people. The comodification of housing is one of the big reasons we’re in this mess.
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Correct
…says the illegal landlord.
No shit Sherlock! Why’d it take so long to realise this?
We shouldn’t have social housing. I shouldn’t have my tax money working agaiant me when I can’t buy a house myself.
Working people shouldn’t have to rely on social housing 😞
Does anyone have a number for how many people that are on the housing list that have never worked , excluding single parents.
I’d imagine it’s actually fairly low.
Just more government shite pushing the narrative that poor people are the problem and that’s why you don’t have a gaff.
From a fucking landlord to !
I actually genuinely believe in this. If people building homes are comfortable such as labourers which are vitally needed their productivity would go up and more homes built for more people etc. It would also actively encourage people seeking the council house route to work too.
Not at all divisive
No. Thats a dystopian nightmare. Every human being needs a home. Human beings that don’t have jobs need this. Some with jobs do also but the ones without jobs are more likely to need it more.
Your value as a person does NOT hinge on your income.
Everyone should have equal priority for social housing. Currently workers are disadvantaged in accessing social housing. This is creating a negative incentive for people to leave jobs to get housing.
I have days where I feel like giving up my job and going on the wello.
My lovely neighbour doesn’t work, never has and never will. Gets EVERYTHING and I mean everything handed to her.
Clothes and toys for her kids (while she abuses them) council house which she has smashed up. She smashed up the new kitchen they put into it three years ago and they spent last week putting a brand new one.
Vouchers from St. Vincent’s and other charities. She also gets extremely reduced crèche rates (she doesn’t work, she shouldn’t be taking THREE crèche places that people who work need)
You know when she gets child benefit , because the dealer is in twice a day the first week of the month.
We both work and at time will go without so our kids can have.
“I hear you’re a communist now Minister Troy”
On a serious note, the quote is likely taken out of context, but it still states the obvious. I would go a step further:
Everyone who cannot afford a house due to financial reasons—workers, the homeless, etc.—should be provided with housing until they can purchase one outright. However, housing priority should be given to workers and/or people with disabilities
I expect that social housing, the fraction of any new build in all estates, would be more welcome if the occupants were seen to be working instead of passive consumers of state aids. Yes there are hardship stories, there are also the opposite.
A family down on it’s luck but working and trying to make the best of it deserves respect and support.
Isn’t this the lad who had a dozen slumlord apartments and got found out?
Can see why he doesn’t want his victim base to be housed.
Tired, so tired of sound bites and plans for plans. Refreshed every 2 years with a cabinet shuffle and nothing improves. I just want fairness, build affordable housing, let the state own them forever. Excel apprenticeship programs to look after all the state properties.
Vast majority of social housing is already occupied by workers. This idea that social housing is only for dolers is just the usual pub talk rubbish.
The trick is to get on the list with a low paying job then once you get the accommodation you can get a better paying job or just work part time as your rent is calculated by income.
Millionaire Minister with 11 properties in his portfolio wants us to talk about anything but their own failure/greed
Yes about time they said it.
I pay such enormous tax but living with my parents.
Aren’t we at effectively full employment? I don’t get why the government is trying so hard to push the final remainder into full time employment as I’d say the remainder is tiny and is either people who life choices allow them to not work full time or don’t want to to do other stuff.
Sure of course there is fraud and people cheating the system but I would say that is very tiny percentage. The rest then of course is those who can’t work full employment due to disabilities, illness or other legitimate reasons.
So this idea to me seems pointless just virtue signaling from the minister trying to look like the government is doing something since he said himself that was a not including those with legit reasons for not having full employment which means imo this wouldn’t speed anything up in the social housing system.
I’d say r/ireland will love this… (sarcastic)
He’s trying to redirect blame for the crisis from FF/FG to poor people.
This bastard has 11 properties. He benefits from the housing crisis.
Don’t let him fool you the rich are your enemy. He should be paying tax through the nose for hoarding housing like that.
No. The most needy should get priority.
Working people shouldn’t need social housing you absolute clown
I’m losing the will to both work and live because of housing. But Robert Troy owns multiple properties so he can absolutely shut the fuck up about housing while he’s still a parasite
Is this the same fella who forgot he owned a second gaff?
Can they just put some data on this? How many houses, allocated to which workers – as it stands, workers like nurses are expected to be employed near hospitals, which are now centralised in cities, but will they be competing with higher paid workers like teachers and civil servants who can be more distributed – but prefer living in cities anyway.
All of this needs to have some stats on housing figures and social housing qualifications, but yes – there should be public housing units for non workers, and social housing providing funded and subsidised units for workers.
Rather than talking about something so ridiculously divisive thats too impractical to actually implement, they could change some parts of the process to help workers while also not impacting the current list system of who gets a house.
Specifically, for the “area of choice” part of an application they should have additional factors considered here like employment history, current employment status, commuting needs etc. So workers now get prioritised housing in city centres close to work or with minimum commuting and non workers can live in areas further out. (Not rural, could still be within a reasonable commute time outside rush hour)
Or something like that I guess?
This is a smoke screen. Ireland has a very low rate of unemployment. There is no lack of workers, but there is a clear lack of housing.
Why not just skip the middle man and give the houses directly to the corporations, who can then give it to their workers if they choose to. Just lean fully into techno feudalism 👌 useless government is useless
Is there actually such a thing as a politician that isn’t a natural wanker
Fight amongst yourselves, We’ve fucked everything so much that we ask you to battle between working poor and pregnant poor – show me your tax receipts
Oh fuck off minister. I’m so exausted with this look over there shite.
Oh fuck off minister. I’m so exausted with this look over there shite.
What social housing
Workers _building social housing_ should get priority for social housing.
And the state should hire _as many people as it takes_ to get it done.
A Job Guarantee – with exclusively the state employing people, no private contracts – geared towards building houses, open to anyone employed/unemployed (with all necessary training), and those building get housed _first_.
Workers shouldn’t require social housing!
Great. Now *fucking build it*.
If workers get priority, the state better start lashing up houses like there’s no tomorrow.
A person working full time hours should be able to house themselves, Landlords should not be allowed to hoard property, Companies should not be allowed to buy residential property, Commercial property owners should be incentivised to convert to residential if they cannot find commercial tenants and most importantly the politicians responsible for housing policies should not be Landlords or hold positions in property investment.
Everyone should be entitled to social housing. From the unemployed to middle class people. The comodification of housing is one of the big reasons we’re in this mess.
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