Russian jets over Estonia ignored signals from NATO pilots: officials

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/article/russian-jets-over-estonia-ignored-signals-from-nato-pilots-officials-say/

by According-Gear-8217

22 comments

  1. So….shoot them down or at least force them to land another way.

  2. Make a very public statement that all future incursions will be subject to shoot-downs.

    Then when they test that… shoot them down.

    They’ll rant, rave and carry on. But you know… fuck’em… they won’t likely try again.

  4. This is more ambiguous than certain media outlets are making it out to be.

    1) This was over the water.

    2) The aircraft were just barely within Estonian airspace, skirting the ragged edge of neutral territory. Most likely deliberate, but close enough for plausible deniability to be a factor. It’s not like they were hotrodding straight towards Estonian cities.

    3) The Russians deny leaving neutral territory, and Estonia has not publicly released the radar data.

    4) Estonia has not invoked article V. Even they are not calling this an act of war.

  5. Remember when those Russian jets hassled the US drone over the Black Sea? And then downed it by dumping fuel right in front of its engine intakes? Just a thought….

  8. Make it extremely clear that truly accidental and small violations are no problem so long as you use transponders and behave in a safe way.

    But make it equally clear that craft that do long violations of airspace and do not answer radio calls will be shot out of the sky by NATO.

  10. Next time, write the signal on a missile, and they can read it up close.

  12. Why doesn’t NATO hit these guys with a missile lock the second they don’t comply?

  14. Yeah, because those old migs can’t receive on the frequency that NATO used.

    That part is not a mystery. Just shoot them down.

  15. We should develop some sort of air version of “a shot across the bow” (In a marine context you can fire your gun in front of the ship that isn’t listening). Something that makes it really uncomfortable to go there.

    Maybe fire an unarmed SAM (not just lock – actually fire) att the jet, from some corvette, so they at least need to change their underwear after they return home?

  16. Even Turkey was like, “fuck this guy, command to F-16, weapons free”. Putin banned Turkish tomatoes for a few months so the rubes could pay more and he could look strong.

    And NATO is pissing itself.

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