Nigel Farage’s new Reform UK policy ‘already falling apart’ over savings blunder

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farages-new-reform-uk-35941876

by corbynista2029

27 comments
  1. [Migration Observatory reports](https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/the-fiscal-impact-of-immigration-in-the-uk/) that a migrant earning ~~median~~ **average** income will only be a net fiscal loss if they live past 92 years. A Brit in the same position will be a net fiscal loss if they live past 81 years. The same report also says that higher migration is likely to lead to LOWER public sector borrowing due to higher taxation and lower benefit claimants (due to rules around access to public funds).

  2. This is wishful thinking. I am sure Reform are going to blunder a lot but honestly don’t see it impacting their support massively as it’s a single issue party for most and that single issue shows no signs of going away.

  3. Savings!?

    God.

    This is the guy who wants to give billionaires a tax cut and help companies tax avoid which is already costing us billions.

    But don’t worry, he’s gonna go after the benefit scroungers and foreigners who are costing us millions.

    I did maths in school 🤪

  4. Reforkers don’t care about the maths… He could say it will save a gazillion pounds, they’ll still not question it…

  5. Heard this before.

    > Nigel Farage has admitted in a live interview with Good Morning Britain that the Leave campaign had made a mistake in its promise to pour £350 million a week into the NHS if Britain backed a Brexit vote.

    > Speaking just hours after the referendum vote was announced, the UKIP leader told Susanna Reid he could not guarantee the money would be spent on the health service as promised by Leave campaigners in the fierce battle to convince the British people to opt out of the EU.

  6. Reform voters will not care one bit about any kind of policy detail.

  7. Didn’t he already row back on who is included as the questions started. I don’t think they have a clue what ILR actually is.

  8. Look at Trump first time round. It doesn’t matter how effective or realistic their promises are or how undesirable Farage is. The vote for them is locked in.

    The best we can hope for is that it is really really shitty weather on the day of the election.

  9. This is shock headline tactic that the media always get sucked in to.

    I’m waiting to hear about Farages financial dealings. When will the media report that?

  10. Reform are nothing but blunder, sadly in recent times the intolerant selfish class have realised they can be heard if they shout loud and long, until someone snaps of course.

  11. The idea that immigrants on temporary visas shouldn’t be allowed free access to the NHS is also insane. I’m willing to bet that the NHS does not have the payment infrastructure necessary to manage that many paying clients effectively.

    Ps does that then mean he’ll axe the IHS?

  12. They share so many qualities with the Conservatives, announce a policy and watch it fall apart at the slightest bit of critical analysis

  13. Like Brexit, the Farage promise is less foreign folk, especially brown people.

    Then when it doesn’t go right, they’ll blame:

    – “Woke lefties”
    – ECHR
    – Previous government (e.g. Labour)
    – Previous, previous government (e.g. Tories)
    – Judges
    – “Leftie Lawyers”
    – Interns
    – “Mainstream media”
    – The Dark Web
    – The Darker Dark Web
    – The NHS
    – James O’Brien
    – “Brainwashed Avocado munchers”

  14. Basically every bit of policy they’ve come out with has been utter crap and designed to appeal entirely to swivel eyed loons but it never impacts their support because about 30% of the electorate are in fact swivel eyed loons.

    They can just announce abolishing taxation entirely while also announcing quintuple locked pensions and their voters won’t even blink in response to how obviously contradictory these two things would be.

  15. The viability of policies are not a factor in vibe-based politics

  16. The irony of so many posters complaining about how reform voters are thick and dont care about detail…did you read the article?

    Reforms estimate is using the obr figures, which are generally regarded as not being as good as they should be – which is why they are so often corrected.

    However they are also the figures that the government themselves use when making budgets and forecasting…

  17. Populist parties with holes in their policies? What else is new?

  18. Anyway, what’s happening about Farages tax dodging?

    Is he resigning yet?

    Or is that also a rule other people need to follow and not him.

  19. What the hell is this article? You’d think there would be an attempt to weave a narrative but it feels like someone copy pasted various paragraphs in a somewhat correct order.

  20. >A Labour source told The Mirror: ‘Farage’s not even half-baked announcement has already fallen apart. Yet again, Reform have no credible plan and their only answer is ‘don’t know’’

    Lmao, what is the story here? Labour source not a fan of Reform policies?

    Well I for one am *shocked*..

  21. Reform are who you should vote for if you want to pay even less tax (despite taxation being historically low) and want our publicly funded services to be euthanized with whatever little dignity they have left. While it isn’t explicitly stated in their policies, you just know they are going to privatize the shit out of the NHS.

    Their manifesto has already promised tens of billions in income, corporation and inheritance tax cuts, which they claim to be able to offset by dissolving quangos, forcing the Bank of England to stop paying commercial banks interest on QE reserves, ripping up green regulations, relaxing employment laws and cutting foreign aid entirely.

    Remember Liz Truss and her disastrous mini-budget which crashed the economy? What if I told you that Reform’s proposed tax cuts go even further beyond? We would be committing economic seppuku by electing them with a majority.

    Maybe mass deportations could free up demand in the job and housing markets, but on the flipside, we also risk losing a lot of skilled workers and sending businesses which depend on foreign workers out of business if we take the US approach. And is it really a good look for us to join Russia and effectively withdraw from the ECHR?

  22. Reform are deeply unserious people in profoundly serious times.

  23. still making the top of the news in Libdem conference week

  24. Reform will have an increasing voter base as long as Labour’s “smash the gangs” policy results in 1000 new arrivals over a single weekend

  25. I’m not convinced that us Europeans on settled status are remotely safe. Some of us, have made our life here, started families, businesses and so on.

    Brexit fear all over again.

    And no, why should have to we give up our citizenship? This is crazy

  26. If Reform voters where bothered by incompetency they wouldn’t be Reform voters in the first place.

  27. “It assumes take-up rate of ILR for recent non-EU cohorts will be in line with those of previous cohorts who were mainly EU. The reality is those coming from Somalia and Pakistan will no doubt take up ILR at much higher rates. They will also likely bring more young dependents.”

    Reform admitting that Brexit has made immigration worse for Britain.

    Well done you cockwombles…

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