Trump says he now believes Ukraine can win back all territory lost to Russia with NATO’s help

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-un-zelenskyy-trump-f28942b3915e40226654548bb3ee7919

28 comments

  1. I hope they can…

    But the world has disappointed me many times.

  2. I don’t believe it? He said something sane? Not in the implied context that he will now do something to prevent it from happening?

  3. Incase people are confused this is him referring to the tariffs and sanctions he is demanding Europe stand with the US in placing on Russia recently that he’s been going on about. He’s implying they can cripple Russia’s economy if they do so

  4. My best bet is that he is working to place the blame on NATO in the immediate future.

    Or he could have had a rational thought.

    Naaahhhhhhh, who am I kidding?

  6. Trump on Truth Social:

    “After getting to know and fully understand the Ukraine/Russia Military and Economic situation and, after seeing the Economic trouble it is causing Russia, I think Ukraine, with the support of the European Union, is in a position to fight and WIN all of Ukraine back in its original form. With time, patience, and the financial support of Europe and, in particular, NATO, the original Borders from where this War started, is very much an option. Why not? Russia has been fighting aimlessly for three and a half years a War that should have taken a Real Military Power less than a week to win. This is not distinguishing Russia. In fact, it is very much making them look like “a paper tiger.” When the people living in Moscow, and all of the Great Cities, Towns, and Districts all throughout Russia, find out what is really going on with this War, the fact that it’s almost impossible for them to get Gasoline through the long lines that are being formed, and all of the other things that are taking place in their War Economy, where most of their money is being spent on fighting Ukraine, which has Great Spirit, and only getting better, Ukraine would be able to take back their Country in its original form and, who knows, maybe even go further than that! Putin and Russia are in BIG Economic trouble, and this is the time for Ukraine to act. In any event, I wish both Countries well. We will continue to supply weapons to NATO for NATO to do what they want with them. Good luck to all!”

  7. IMHO Russia might just go the way of USSR. The socioeconomic toll of this war is higher on them than Afghanistan was on USSR and USSR was a much bigger and more resilient entity than modern Russia. Unlike USSR, modern Russia doesn’t even have an ideology to carry this bullshit outside of some imperialist hodge podge.

    Sure, Russia can keep throwing meat at the grinder, but Ukraine can also keeping hitting oil refineries and substations for years as well. And Ukrainians have a real reason to fight, Russians do not.

    The minute economy or stability begins to falter, Chechens and other minorities might ask why the hell they want to be a part of that Federation again. Shit might go down. Even places like St Petersburg might feel more affiliated to the Baltics than Moscow.

  10. You know, I’ll give Trump credit for somehow always managing to surprise us.

    Saying Ukraine should go even further than pre war borders is something I’d never thought I’d hear come out of his mouth lmao. What the hell did Zelenskyy say to him??

  11. Trump is bipolar on Ukraine/russia. I genuinely don’t get his thoughts on this.

    NATO is garbage > Suck up to Russia > Ukraine is corrupt > push for peace > Ukraine can win > NATO is strong. He’s done a full 180 from his position only a few months ago

  12. I don’t care what his reason is. I don’t what the motivation is. This is better than showing Putin the red carpet.

  13. So Trump wants Europe to buy more weapons from America to send to Ukraine. Is that what I read?

  14. His comments are worthless because there is no follow thru on anything worthwhile. He just says what is convenient at the time and next week his words could be totally different. A cynic might think he is intentionally prolonging all of this to help his idol Putin

  15. Does anyone else feel like someone’s been in his ear? He seems to for once be understanding that well first of all Russia are a weak shit show of a military power.

    They are basically making Trump look weak after the meeting he had with Putin (I wonder if someone’s conveyed this to him, it seems like they have. Because usually I think he’s surrounded by yes men who wouldn’t dare say that Putin made him look weak).

    Then there’s the finally admitting that the “free money/weapons” they’re giving Ukraine is money that’s going to their massive defence industry, thus boosting their economy. It’s like the government is giving money to its own massive defence industry.

    It’s like how people don’t understand that a universal basic income isn’t throwing money away because normal people spend that money back in the economy (unlike rich who horde money). That’s off topic anyway.

    But yeah I wonder if someone’s got through to him about Putin making him look weak, the fact that money is going into their defence industry (he’s probably getting donations from those companies) and that Putin isn’t a strong man, he’s actually very weak and aligning himself with him just makes him look weak.

    I dunno. But it’s good news. Of course with Trump he could do a 180 tomorrow but it’s better than it was.

  16. What the writer of that was actually saying is that Ukraine can win if the Eurpean union throws its full support behind it and EU members of NATO are free to buy American weapons to supply Ukraine as part of that goal. 

    The message is, the united states has stuff for sale and we need to bump our economic numbers. Bonus is that instead of spending money on competing programs, euro members will funnel all that cash to US companies instead.

  17. Just a reminder .. Trump famously parrots the talking points of the last person he spoke to.

    So good news .. but I wouldn’t be surprised if JD Vance or Hegseth tips him the other way again

  18. He is only saying this because he met with Zelensky today. Just wait a few hours and you will see him change his stance entirely.

  19. I often think about this quote from The Expanse when it comes to Trump:

    “He doesn’t care about treason. That’s just him parroting you because you talked to him last. If he spoke to a janitor, he’d be passionately declaiming about a fucking mop”

  20. Somebody convinced Trump the compromising videos Putin has been controlling him with have been rendered ineffective due to AI.

  21. Flippity floppity. Zelensky was the last person to talk to him, give it a week until Pustin has a chat and it’ll be all changed again.

  22. Trump being the source of what trump thinks makes this very untrustworthy. 

  23. It’s 2:30pm. He’ll say something completely different around 5:30pm. His brain is YUUGGGEEE.

  24. It took this knob 3 years to arrive at the same conclusion which everyone else had within the first few days of the war.

  25. This fuck head just riffs. That’s all he knows how to do. Riffs about Tylenol, vaccines, ahmish, Gaza, ww3. Just says whatever

  26. I doubt Trump wrote that. It’s too coherent, and not in all-caps

  27. The sad part is his idiot followers in congress are the ones who let Russia get this far by stopping funding or appropriate arms to Ukraine.

  28. ‘And who knows, maybe even go further than that?’

    No, Donald. No.

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