Chinese workers in US explore fleeing to Europe after H-1B chaos: ‘I’m so tired of this’

https://www.scmp.com/economy/global-economy/article/3326557/chinese-workers-us-explore-fleeing-europe-after-h-1b-chaos-im-so-tired?module=inline&pgtype=article

by nohup_me

29 comments

  1. US will experience a MASSIVE brain drain. If EU plays our cards right, we might get those experts needed for tech growth.

  2. Serious question, are eu salaries even better than top tier chinese city salaries at this point?

  5. Great. Now Europe can enjoy all the Chinese IP thieves.

  6. I’m more interested to see if the skilled Europeans will return back home with all the bullshit there.

  7. They’re not going to do better here than in America. Even with H1B, American tech salaries are higher than most of Europe. America has many more tech companies that are hiring than here as well. It is also well-known that the H1B programme was heavily abused, we certainly don’t want that here in Europe.

    I rather we invest in talents here than import more people. Just look to Canada to see the consequence of that policy.

  8. Please do not come here, we do not need you to spoil the market with your slave-like approach to work-life balance

  9. Left US H1B for Germany in 2014, permanent visa paperwork load was one of the factors, another one H4 non-working visa for my spouse. Green card process was not inspiring confidence either. It was the right decision, happy that my kids are growing in the German school system even if I missed the higher US wages.

  10. Let them flee but not to Europe. The ones deemed truly valuable will probably stay and still go to the US. It´s the hot bodies that are being pushed by some big consultancy firms who´ll find it difficult to get in the US. The ones who are merely average, if that. We don´t need those.

  11. Europe was the center of knowledge in the 19th century. Post WW2, the US dominated the 20th century. It’s time for China and maybe again Europe if it plays its cards right.

  15. european software engineers already have a hard time finding work. more software engineers will just make that problem worse

  16. At the top end of skills you will do much better in the US. In saying that, at the top end you also might not want to spend you life dealing with the bullshit that is currently infecting the US, so maybe it is time to look elsewhere. It’ll be interesting to see if the tech companies try shifting expensive operations (e.g. AI R&D) to Europe or elsewhere.

  18. Honestly there is no future in Europe. Most of the engineers are demotivated by greedy managers.

  19. Answer is no.

    They have work unions that protect their jobs

  20. Better Chinese highly educated than lowly educated Pakistanks.

    If that’s allowed to be said here…

  21. I mean that’s exactly what Trump is going for. More jobs for American citizens.

    Plenty of capable American citizens that can do these jobs but it is cheaper to hire H-1B Visa holders.

    These workers will also never quit otherwise they risk losing their H-1B visa status so employers have significant leverage over them.

    Trump’s plan is already working.

  26. I’m sure we’ll find some way to balls this up as well. 

  27. They are not gonna go. Europe pays nowhere near the US. There won’t be a major brain drain as some people say.

  28. Chinese workers will be thoroughly disappointed to learn the technology to exfiltrate back to the CCP isn’t nearly as good in the EU.

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