As an addition to u/JustaguynamedTheo's post, I wanted to let everbody know that Belgium apparently supports the idea of screening all of your messages. Every. Single. One. Of. Them.

Please visit fightchatcontrol.eu to inform yourself and other people.

This is unethical and undermines your fundamental right to privacy!

by wegwerp69420

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  3. What a disgrace of a government. It is getting really hard not to lose the little hope I have left in humanity.

  6. De kracht van verandering in actie! Zou er een “anonieme donatie” zijn geweest?

  7. I wonder where they found the information that our government supports this. Can’t seem to find anything.

  8. “And this is how liberty dies; with thunderous applause”

  9. So the constitution is just “een vodje papier” then.

  10. I sent mails to all those reps and got 8 or so replies back that they would fight it and so on. Now I see again how much a politician’s word is worth.

  11. The moment Chat Control came up I knew it was going to be a war we were going to lose. You can win the battles, but eventually you have to lose just once.

  12. The site lists that 12 of our 22 MEP reps are opposed, and the position of the other 10 is unknown, so I don’t quite understand why it lists the general position of Belgium as ‘supports’? It says the government is in favour, but I can’t find any statements to back that up, and in the end it’s the MEPs who vote, no?

    Opposition seems to come from every party, including regular suspects such as VB, N-VA, Groen, etc so I’m not sure what the outrage is about. Although it’s good to remain alert of course.

    I’m more disturbed by VRT’s lack of reporting on this issue… can’t find any articles about it. People should be informed!

  13. The first time I sent emails to some belgian MEP, around may-june, I got the classical answers “We are concerned, and will act accordingly to our program” (from 3 different parties). Which means absolutely nothing in substance.

    I re-sent them an email 3 weeks ago, and sent also to some other MEP (of another party). No reply at all. Now I understand why they did not reply this time. What a shame.

  15. Honestly, it’s an unpopular opinion, I know, but I’m not completely against it. I have nothing to hide. If they want to screen all my bad jokes and lame memes, let them.

  16. So, when are we finally doing that meeting by Bruxelles-Schuman? I’ve been calling for it since May.

  18. I never expect anything good to come out of the EU and I’m never surprised.

  20. Ziet ge wel. Er wordt veel geluld en ontkent om dan plots voor voldongen feiten te staan.

    En bent ge al mee met de politiek van heden beste mensen ? Ze liegen vlakaf in uw gezicht terwijl ze iedereen in het supergevang aan het steken zijn.

  21. It was a while ago, tried to search in my mail app but can’t find it.

    It was a woman that I know. She send the same mail to many people, I think there was even a post about it on r/belgium.

    It was all like ‘we take your privay very serious and feel your concern, but the kids’

    Like those 5 points in the template fightchatcontrol were ignored. I’m sure she didn’t even really read my mail.

    Edit This was supposed to be a reply to someone, I did a whoopsie

  22. The facists untrustworthy? Who could have seen it coming?

  23. Typical Bart De Wever, say one thing to please the populace, do the polar opposite. Next step is him giving an interview and saying he was forced by the other parties.

  28. Weird, I messaged them all, and they pretty much all answered me that the current proposal is not acceptable.
    Fucking liars

  30. People are really surprised that a right-wing government supports right-wing policies ? Let’s not forget that Jan Jambon and Theo Francken have links with, and support, ancient nazi collaborators. The N-VA isn’t a friend of democracy, and has many links and friendship with the far-right through the KVHV.

  31. Thats very strange because they literally said they didnt ..

  34. Politicians craving absolute power? I did not see that coming.

  35. You’re fucking kidding me? This is what I’ve been mailing people for???

  38. Well, if this comes to pass, we should start an open-source encrypted P2P messaging app with a custom encryption method on top of known ones to counter this.

    If done right, they can try all they want, but they won’t get our messages.

    Still, what politicians don’t realize is that they’re making the entire EU vulnerable for outside hackers. (Russian ones for instance). Because people in the administration will be using those same backdoored apps. And if there’s a backdoor, it’s only a matter of time until hackers will be able to use it too.

  39. #suprised pikachu
    Is er eigenlijk 1 politieker in belgie die het beste met de bevolking voor heeft ?

  41. I don’t understand? If I go to their website I see all MEPs are against except the Permanent Representation of Belgium and government. Also the stance of the government is based on leaked documents? How reliable is this website anyway?

  44. An then they blame China or Russia of “authoritarian” and “undemocratic control of privacy”… when they plan to do similar things, but hey, they will use the “security”, “defense” or “anti terrorism” widlcards…

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