It’s a combination of detection (aka access to healthcare and technology) and life expectancy being long enough that cancer becomes more common.
Cancer is what eventually gets you when you eliminate other causes of mortality.
That kind of statistic needs to be analyzed really carefully to draw conclusions. Much more carefully than that kind of oversimplified (and unsourced) infographic allows.
You may get paradoxical effects, where healthier populations have higher cancer rates, simply because they have lower rates of other major causes of mortality, but everyone still dies eventually.
And then, of course, there’s the questions of diagnosis and reporting.
Tanning-skin cancer
A Health nut colleague of mine claimed it was all the sunflower oil we use for cooking.
I dunno, but maybe 🤷♂️
My mother-in-law is a nurse and if I am not mistaken she told me that skin cancer is the most common amongst Norwegians. It doesn’t surprise me considering the beauty standard is being too tan and people seem to forget that sunscreen exists during summer.
I also think it’s a cultural thing: Norwegians long for the sun all year long because of the climate. Being from a tropical country, we are taught since early to fear the sun and the dangers it offers, and for sure we don’t have the same relationship with sunlight (we have it all year while Norwegians try to make the most of it while they can).
Wow, Somalians and Venezuelans must be really healhy!
Its geology actually. And imo geology only. All other factors are miniscule in comparison.
Its due to our bedrock. We are very very very very very rich in uranium & thorium. These are unstable, they decay down first to radium then to randon gas. This then seeps up from our soil. (Aware of madam Curie I suspect), yeah radium gas is not exactly something you want to be breathing in. In the open its not that much of an issue, but inside homes and buildings, it is a problem. And in a cold climate with poor ventilation (full AC is fairly rare)/ a lot of basements: a slight disaster. One that has never sufficiently been addressed.
I would for instance never put children’s room, have a tv room or put a computer in a basement. (At least not without having it tested thoroughly first).
Unfortunately some of our most densely populated areas are highly affected. In particular in the south east and greater Oslo area.
But its really everywhere from our continental shelf to our mountain peaks, map is also far from complete, testing is very lacking. Moderate to low here still meaning significantly higher than what you would find outside of the country.
Because our food is owned by 3 oligark families, and we are flooded with ultra prossessed and confusing packaging. Heck we even have bugs in the food now, withou knowing.
And we use a shit ton suncreen from the companies that have previously been sentenced in court for adding cancer causing ingredients like Johnson and Johnson.
We get very old.
I also think many of us could eat more varied food other southern/eastern countries eat more of, esp veggie stuff
Screening.
It’s declared cancer, of course in Africa people have cancer too, same rate as eu, just bad doctors
This chart is for skin cancer only?
Alcohol, obesity, smoking, physical activity, diet and exposure to sun are all main factors
Probs the pickled herring.
Non Norwegian here, lurking from New Zealand (Im allowed, my brother married in).
You have high cancer rates because you detect it more. Everyone else in the world dies of “natural causes” while you have a bunch more cancer survivors.
Kiwi out.
1 We eat a lot of unhealthy food
2 People burn themselves in the sun multiple times a year – both my parents had skin cancer
looks like air and thus water pollution has something to do with the numbers
Because our fish is full of plastics
I find it quite funny that every time Norway is doing „poorly“ Norwegians find a way to explain it in a positive way. No, screening and life expectancy aren’t that much better than in Switzerland, Finnland, Germany, Austria, and the like.
Norwegians tan. A lot. While most of Europe has more or less sworn off tanning beds and tanning oils, they’re still going strong here.
Geomedicine. The Swedish-norwegian mountain range are the part of the largest mountain that we have had on this planet, Caledonian, and they are rich in harmful materials because of it. Olle Selinus is the worlds most renowned scientists on this subject and has written several books about it.
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It’s a combination of detection (aka access to healthcare and technology) and life expectancy being long enough that cancer becomes more common.
Cancer is what eventually gets you when you eliminate other causes of mortality.
That kind of statistic needs to be analyzed really carefully to draw conclusions. Much more carefully than that kind of oversimplified (and unsourced) infographic allows.
You may get paradoxical effects, where healthier populations have higher cancer rates, simply because they have lower rates of other major causes of mortality, but everyone still dies eventually.
And then, of course, there’s the questions of diagnosis and reporting.
Tanning-skin cancer
A Health nut colleague of mine claimed it was all the sunflower oil we use for cooking.
I dunno, but maybe 🤷♂️
My mother-in-law is a nurse and if I am not mistaken she told me that skin cancer is the most common amongst Norwegians. It doesn’t surprise me considering the beauty standard is being too tan and people seem to forget that sunscreen exists during summer.
I also think it’s a cultural thing: Norwegians long for the sun all year long because of the climate. Being from a tropical country, we are taught since early to fear the sun and the dangers it offers, and for sure we don’t have the same relationship with sunlight (we have it all year while Norwegians try to make the most of it while they can).
Wow, Somalians and Venezuelans must be really healhy!
Its geology actually. And imo geology only. All other factors are miniscule in comparison.
Its due to our bedrock. We are very very very very very rich in uranium & thorium. These are unstable, they decay down first to radium then to randon gas. This then seeps up from our soil. (Aware of madam Curie I suspect), yeah radium gas is not exactly something you want to be breathing in. In the open its not that much of an issue, but inside homes and buildings, it is a problem. And in a cold climate with poor ventilation (full AC is fairly rare)/ a lot of basements: a slight disaster. One that has never sufficiently been addressed.
I would for instance never put children’s room, have a tv room or put a computer in a basement. (At least not without having it tested thoroughly first).
[https://www.ngu.no/geologi-og-risiko/radon](https://www.ngu.no/geologi-og-risiko/radon)
Unfortunately some of our most densely populated areas are highly affected. In particular in the south east and greater Oslo area.
But its really everywhere from our continental shelf to our mountain peaks, map is also far from complete, testing is very lacking. Moderate to low here still meaning significantly higher than what you would find outside of the country.
Because our food is owned by 3 oligark families, and we are flooded with ultra prossessed and confusing packaging. Heck we even have bugs in the food now, withou knowing.
And we use a shit ton suncreen from the companies that have previously been sentenced in court for adding cancer causing ingredients like Johnson and Johnson.
We get very old.
I also think many of us could eat more varied food other southern/eastern countries eat more of, esp veggie stuff
Screening.
It’s declared cancer, of course in Africa people have cancer too, same rate as eu, just bad doctors
This chart is for skin cancer only?
Alcohol, obesity, smoking, physical activity, diet and exposure to sun are all main factors
Probs the pickled herring.
Non Norwegian here, lurking from New Zealand (Im allowed, my brother married in).
You have high cancer rates because you detect it more. Everyone else in the world dies of “natural causes” while you have a bunch more cancer survivors.
Kiwi out.
1 We eat a lot of unhealthy food
2 People burn themselves in the sun multiple times a year – both my parents had skin cancer
looks like air and thus water pollution has something to do with the numbers
Because our fish is full of plastics
I find it quite funny that every time Norway is doing „poorly“ Norwegians find a way to explain it in a positive way. No, screening and life expectancy aren’t that much better than in Switzerland, Finnland, Germany, Austria, and the like.
Norwegians tan. A lot. While most of Europe has more or less sworn off tanning beds and tanning oils, they’re still going strong here.
Geomedicine. The Swedish-norwegian mountain range are the part of the largest mountain that we have had on this planet, Caledonian, and they are rich in harmful materials because of it. Olle Selinus is the worlds most renowned scientists on this subject and has written several books about it.
Lack lf exposition to healthy sunlight probably
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