I would honestly vote to strike out of sheer spite after those comments, just wow how much of dumbass do you need to be to make those comments on an internal social media platform.
Actual quote:
> That doesn’t mean senior managers and leaders are always right… far from it, but equally we should be fair and recognise that all businesses – public and private – compete for managers who have these skill and pay accordingly. It’s a lesson to those of us who should have probably worked harder at school.”
Honestly network rails top brass had done more in 4 days with 3 emails and this Yammer comment for the vote for industrial action than the RMT could have done in 10 years.
2 emails begging and putting the foot in it from the CEO.
Then this comment from a director of communications. Then another video begging in his multi million quid mansion.
Even worse is the sneaky offer, “we will LOOK at opening VSS to maintainance staff IF you agree to flexible working”
So not even a commitment to do it just a look. Along with them not defining what flexibility means.
They’ve done a grand job for the union I have to say that.
Because as everyone knows working hard and getting good skilled qualifications definitely entitles you to a good QoL in this country…
Oh wait no, like always they are talking only about the management class. Because they just generate *soooo* much value…
> Network Rail said the director’s comments had been “misconstrued”
I’d be interested to hear them explain how they were misconstrued and what they actually meant.
The person who said those words gave a “sorry you’re the sort of cunt who gets offended” non-apology but didn’t seem to have the time to get round to clarifying their point.
A cynic would suggest that the comments hadn’t actually been misconstrued and that Network Rail are lying.
aw are your workers about to strike? :'(
Should’ve treated them better.
Managers being at this position because they have worked hard and have the right skills ahah Should we tell them?
Right, and if everyone worked harder at school who would work the railways?
>Network Rail says regional communications director’s comments were ‘misconstrued’
Sounds like they shouldn’t be a communications director then
>Director of communications ….. this was a bad choice of words
Maybe she should of paid more attention in English.
There is similar sentiment across similar sectors, our unions are also threatening some form of industrial action after we voted the last pay offer down. Give it a few months and they we will start seeing similar across the whole country. People have never been more acutely aware that their earning are being eroded.
The rail boss who said this wouldn’t be in a job if these workers ‘tried harder at school’.
This is laughable, a first year comms intern wouldn’t be dumb enough to make a comment like that nevermind a director of communications holy shit.
Story is enranging but after reading the article I think the context saps a lot of that anger away. I don’t agree with what she said but I don’t believe it’s the unforgivable language the headline suggests.
Comes across to me as a failed attempt at some form of self flagellation by casting it across to her peers too.
I don’t know anything about the rail situation but it is shocking to me how much this sounds like exactly what goes on where I work. Even the awful comments from the Head of Comms and the complete non-apology despite it being an obvious problem (““As can often be the case on social media platforms, these comments were
misconstrued. The author was referring to her own experiences, not
directing the comments at others. She later clarified this on the same
thread and this was well received by colleagues.”)
Are you fucking kidding me?
This is real “let them eat cake” energy.
Well done. You just lost the vote. Doesn’t matter on the merits or the reasons… people will now vote against you because you basically spat in their faces.
The running gag in the depot today has been to end every conversation with ‘well, I/you should probably have tried harder at school.’
Management weren’t amused, there was a regional director doing damage control all day on the phone to his higher-ups.
I’m by no means a fucking genius, but even I’ve had enough social media policy drummed into me that I would’ve let someone else read that before posting, if I felt the need to post it at all, let alone a HEAD OF COMMS who’s probably a band 1 or 2, ie on six figures.
Fucking idiot. Still, that’ll look good on her CV and be googleable FOREVER.
Please vote to strike because fuck bosses like that.
Seems all the hero bullshit of COVID has been forgotten, seriously. If the shelf stackers left their fridges and cubicles empty, the road layers dropped their shovels and the bar workers and hotel staff left glasses and sheets dirty, the whole fucking lot would implode in a day. Work is work and it takes skill. The over paid four emails a day crowd can fuck off.
> Ms Hughes added that “the alternative” to such pay inequality “is socialism where you don’t have pay differences like this”, noting: “Sadly again, there’s not much evidence of successful, fair and open socialist countries in the world who’ve managed to do this either.”.
She is a lunatic. This is their comms director? Fuck me.
I hate the “just study harder” argument. Let’s say every striking worker got straight As at school and got a well paid office job instead. Does that remove the need for rail workers? Does that fix the underlying problem of people in low skilled jobs being underpaid for their labour? No, it just means some other workers would be in that position instead.
“just study harder” does not actually fix the problem, it just moves the chairs around a bit. It’s an individual level solution to a systemic problem. Unfortunately in this post Thatcherite hellscape of a country that’s the only solution people are able to think of.
I will never understand people with that attitude, they’ll stand in line for a burger and user the person serving them as an example to their kid to succeed at school yet without that person they have no burger so they’re losing anyway.
Every job in society has a role to play (except politicians) and without those jobs everything slowly starts to fall apart, what happens if we get rid of all bin men?
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>Should have worked harder at school’:
Should have gone to the ‘right’ school.
Fixed that for her.
I would honestly vote to strike out of sheer spite after those comments, just wow how much of dumbass do you need to be to make those comments on an internal social media platform.
Actual quote:
> That doesn’t mean senior managers and leaders are always right… far from it, but equally we should be fair and recognise that all businesses – public and private – compete for managers who have these skill and pay accordingly. It’s a lesson to those of us who should have probably worked harder at school.”
Honestly network rails top brass had done more in 4 days with 3 emails and this Yammer comment for the vote for industrial action than the RMT could have done in 10 years.
2 emails begging and putting the foot in it from the CEO.
Then this comment from a director of communications. Then another video begging in his multi million quid mansion.
Even worse is the sneaky offer, “we will LOOK at opening VSS to maintainance staff IF you agree to flexible working”
So not even a commitment to do it just a look. Along with them not defining what flexibility means.
They’ve done a grand job for the union I have to say that.
Because as everyone knows working hard and getting good skilled qualifications definitely entitles you to a good QoL in this country…
Oh wait no, like always they are talking only about the management class. Because they just generate *soooo* much value…
> Network Rail said the director’s comments had been “misconstrued”
I’d be interested to hear them explain how they were misconstrued and what they actually meant.
The person who said those words gave a “sorry you’re the sort of cunt who gets offended” non-apology but didn’t seem to have the time to get round to clarifying their point.
A cynic would suggest that the comments hadn’t actually been misconstrued and that Network Rail are lying.
aw are your workers about to strike? :'(
Should’ve treated them better.
Managers being at this position because they have worked hard and have the right skills ahah Should we tell them?
Right, and if everyone worked harder at school who would work the railways?
>Network Rail says regional communications director’s comments were ‘misconstrued’
Sounds like they shouldn’t be a communications director then
>Director of communications ….. this was a bad choice of words
Maybe she should of paid more attention in English.
There is similar sentiment across similar sectors, our unions are also threatening some form of industrial action after we voted the last pay offer down. Give it a few months and they we will start seeing similar across the whole country. People have never been more acutely aware that their earning are being eroded.
The rail boss who said this wouldn’t be in a job if these workers ‘tried harder at school’.
This is laughable, a first year comms intern wouldn’t be dumb enough to make a comment like that nevermind a director of communications holy shit.
Story is enranging but after reading the article I think the context saps a lot of that anger away. I don’t agree with what she said but I don’t believe it’s the unforgivable language the headline suggests.
Comes across to me as a failed attempt at some form of self flagellation by casting it across to her peers too.
I don’t know anything about the rail situation but it is shocking to me how much this sounds like exactly what goes on where I work. Even the awful comments from the Head of Comms and the complete non-apology despite it being an obvious problem (““As can often be the case on social media platforms, these comments were
misconstrued. The author was referring to her own experiences, not
directing the comments at others. She later clarified this on the same
thread and this was well received by colleagues.”)
Are you fucking kidding me?
This is real “let them eat cake” energy.
Well done. You just lost the vote. Doesn’t matter on the merits or the reasons… people will now vote against you because you basically spat in their faces.
The running gag in the depot today has been to end every conversation with ‘well, I/you should probably have tried harder at school.’
Management weren’t amused, there was a regional director doing damage control all day on the phone to his higher-ups.
I’m by no means a fucking genius, but even I’ve had enough social media policy drummed into me that I would’ve let someone else read that before posting, if I felt the need to post it at all, let alone a HEAD OF COMMS who’s probably a band 1 or 2, ie on six figures.
Fucking idiot. Still, that’ll look good on her CV and be googleable FOREVER.
Please vote to strike because fuck bosses like that.
Seems all the hero bullshit of COVID has been forgotten, seriously. If the shelf stackers left their fridges and cubicles empty, the road layers dropped their shovels and the bar workers and hotel staff left glasses and sheets dirty, the whole fucking lot would implode in a day. Work is work and it takes skill. The over paid four emails a day crowd can fuck off.
> Ms Hughes added that “the alternative” to such pay inequality “is socialism where you don’t have pay differences like this”, noting: “Sadly again, there’s not much evidence of successful, fair and open socialist countries in the world who’ve managed to do this either.”.
She is a lunatic. This is their comms director? Fuck me.
I hate the “just study harder” argument. Let’s say every striking worker got straight As at school and got a well paid office job instead. Does that remove the need for rail workers? Does that fix the underlying problem of people in low skilled jobs being underpaid for their labour? No, it just means some other workers would be in that position instead.
“just study harder” does not actually fix the problem, it just moves the chairs around a bit. It’s an individual level solution to a systemic problem. Unfortunately in this post Thatcherite hellscape of a country that’s the only solution people are able to think of.
I will never understand people with that attitude, they’ll stand in line for a burger and user the person serving them as an example to their kid to succeed at school yet without that person they have no burger so they’re losing anyway.
Every job in society has a role to play (except politicians) and without those jobs everything slowly starts to fall apart, what happens if we get rid of all bin men?