Absolutely. Sovereign EU parliament which nominates the executive. No more votes by unanimity which paralyses the EU and empowers tyrants like Orban.
Union federal ahora ya!
🇪🇺
Being effectively a quasi-federal system itself, with highly autonomous regions, that’s not entirely surprising.
We don’t trust our politicians.
Spain doesn’t even support a federal Spain..
Spain wants to Federise?
I thought they would rather Nadalise!
🤔
Trusting the EU to solve your own internal problems is a creepily bad move that just reflects low confidence at a local level and power projection at a higher level. Those polls mean nothing, just like the “should a strong man run your country for 3 years” questions.
How would this work with the Spanish monarchy? Would it be abolished in the process? Would it continue to exist on a sub-national level like in some African countries? This question is also relevant to the other EU monarchies, do any of those countries have specific plans for that situation?
Who did they ask?
I’m sure that if EU actually tried to federalize, Poland would get out.
“Losing our independence” has always been the biggest fear people had towards the EU membership. Even today all the conservative parties (including PiS, the biggest party in parliment) see the EU as a foreign power infringing on our sovereignty. If it federalized and it actually became true, I’m sure that the number of people who share this sentiment would boil to over 50% and Polexit would become a thing.
Everyone says yes until asked about the details, then nobody agrees. Defence is one example.
Why have you spelt federalise like that? Utter yank nonsense.
It would take two track integration.
Please don’t scoff and bear with me.
Federal Europe is possible only if you have political parties that act on the territory of entire Europe. Should you have otherwise, they will be prone to clash and create divisions.
Example (don’t scoff) is the transition of Yugoslavia from Socialism to Democracy. Yugoslavia was a federation under Socialism as well, but under Democracy, every federal unit had their own national political parties predominantly having influence localised. As we know, this didn’t end well, and now we have other complimentary stories, but I think that having political parties acting on the whole territory is a must for having a long-lasting federation.
The desire is not enough. Actual political mechanisms with clear rules are needed.
Oh hell no, never
I have never met anyone who wants the power centralised in Europe, yet the comments are full of it? I suspect heavy bot usage pushing nonsense
Most of the people here in Spain doesn’t know what federal means nor what implications would have.
Take this poll with a grain of salt
EU works because countries retain autonomy. Sure they gotta pay some $. Aid in defense budget and dance to the tunes of some other minor things euro parliament demands of every euro state but other than its fine. The benefits are too good. Financial aid. Moving among euro states freely as eu citizen is absolutely insanely good. As soon as theres even a hint of some kind of attempt to consolidate power or strip euro member states of their sovereignty, itll be dozen brexits at the same time.
Rather not if they push dumb shit like chat control
federalization would be the stupidest possible idea Europe is too culturally diverse for it to work maybe in 100 or even 1000 years but certainly not today The strength of Europe should be diversity and cooperation, not federalization.
Don’t fool yourselves.
This is completely bias, it nearly an EU ad.
If you ask around, it’s quite the opposite.
Most people are still even talking about how the € made them poorer
Federalized EU means that we trade our local representatives for some central power that don’t give a shit about our local problems. No, thank you.
Even now, when we’re not a federation, EU is focused on France and Germany, not on Croatia or Slovakia.
Did the people asked actually understand what that means? I have to wonder.
I dunno I look at america and I think thats just about the worst thing we could do. I dont need my day to day life in Ireland dictated by voters in rural Bulgaria.
Its bad enough sharing a government with people from Donegal as a Dubliner. Not to diss Donegal or them specifically but life is just so different for us.
Yes, we need to give up even more political power and transfer it to Fr/De. A solid plan, what could ho wrong?
Spain dosent even support a united spain
This “survey” is absolute fiction lol
Pushing for federalization only strengthens Euroscepticism and risks triggering more exit movements, federalization will be the end of the EU.
Absolutely not, I don’t know who took this pole but I don’t know a single Spaniard who supports this. It would take power from us.
I’d be in favour of Frexit is that would happen. Nations are the sole sovereign bodies, this is the principle of democracy. And europeans do not form a nation.
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Yeah, not gonna happen.
Absolutely. Sovereign EU parliament which nominates the executive. No more votes by unanimity which paralyses the EU and empowers tyrants like Orban.
Union federal ahora ya!
🇪🇺
Being effectively a quasi-federal system itself, with highly autonomous regions, that’s not entirely surprising.
We don’t trust our politicians.
Spain doesn’t even support a federal Spain..
Spain wants to Federise?
I thought they would rather Nadalise!
🤔
Trusting the EU to solve your own internal problems is a creepily bad move that just reflects low confidence at a local level and power projection at a higher level. Those polls mean nothing, just like the “should a strong man run your country for 3 years” questions.
How would this work with the Spanish monarchy? Would it be abolished in the process? Would it continue to exist on a sub-national level like in some African countries? This question is also relevant to the other EU monarchies, do any of those countries have specific plans for that situation?
Who did they ask?
I’m sure that if EU actually tried to federalize, Poland would get out.
“Losing our independence” has always been the biggest fear people had towards the EU membership. Even today all the conservative parties (including PiS, the biggest party in parliment) see the EU as a foreign power infringing on our sovereignty. If it federalized and it actually became true, I’m sure that the number of people who share this sentiment would boil to over 50% and Polexit would become a thing.
Everyone says yes until asked about the details, then nobody agrees. Defence is one example.
Why have you spelt federalise like that? Utter yank nonsense.
It would take two track integration.
Please don’t scoff and bear with me.
Federal Europe is possible only if you have political parties that act on the territory of entire Europe. Should you have otherwise, they will be prone to clash and create divisions.
Example (don’t scoff) is the transition of Yugoslavia from Socialism to Democracy. Yugoslavia was a federation under Socialism as well, but under Democracy, every federal unit had their own national political parties predominantly having influence localised. As we know, this didn’t end well, and now we have other complimentary stories, but I think that having political parties acting on the whole territory is a must for having a long-lasting federation.
The desire is not enough. Actual political mechanisms with clear rules are needed.
Oh hell no, never
I have never met anyone who wants the power centralised in Europe, yet the comments are full of it? I suspect heavy bot usage pushing nonsense
Most of the people here in Spain doesn’t know what federal means nor what implications would have.
Take this poll with a grain of salt
EU works because countries retain autonomy. Sure they gotta pay some $. Aid in defense budget and dance to the tunes of some other minor things euro parliament demands of every euro state but other than its fine. The benefits are too good. Financial aid. Moving among euro states freely as eu citizen is absolutely insanely good. As soon as theres even a hint of some kind of attempt to consolidate power or strip euro member states of their sovereignty, itll be dozen brexits at the same time.
Rather not if they push dumb shit like chat control
federalization would be the stupidest possible idea Europe is too culturally diverse for it to work maybe in 100 or even 1000 years but certainly not today The strength of Europe should be diversity and cooperation, not federalization.
Don’t fool yourselves.
This is completely bias, it nearly an EU ad.
If you ask around, it’s quite the opposite.
Most people are still even talking about how the € made them poorer
Federalized EU means that we trade our local representatives for some central power that don’t give a shit about our local problems. No, thank you.
Even now, when we’re not a federation, EU is focused on France and Germany, not on Croatia or Slovakia.
Did the people asked actually understand what that means? I have to wonder.
I dunno I look at america and I think thats just about the worst thing we could do. I dont need my day to day life in Ireland dictated by voters in rural Bulgaria.
Its bad enough sharing a government with people from Donegal as a Dubliner. Not to diss Donegal or them specifically but life is just so different for us.
Yes, we need to give up even more political power and transfer it to Fr/De. A solid plan, what could ho wrong?
Spain dosent even support a united spain
This “survey” is absolute fiction lol
Pushing for federalization only strengthens Euroscepticism and risks triggering more exit movements, federalization will be the end of the EU.
Absolutely not, I don’t know who took this pole but I don’t know a single Spaniard who supports this. It would take power from us.
I’d be in favour of Frexit is that would happen. Nations are the sole sovereign bodies, this is the principle of democracy. And europeans do not form a nation.
Something people crave and repent soon after
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