Wait, so they’re not a cost to the taxpayer when occupied? What a buffoon.
The very sight of the man, or hearing his voice makes me so irrational I can’t comment about him in a rational or balanced way. Another super-wealthy Tory so out of touch with ordinary people he may as well be from another planet.
How? I assume the Palace of Westminster is pretty much paid for these days, which means the day to day running costs should be dramatically reduced?
Anyway – do you know what is a cost to the taxpayer? MPs that work for themselves and don’t care about their constituents.
Feels like that if his department cant make a cost saving with people WFH it needs a change of leadership.
He says offices are a cost to the tax paper, but surely he’s just as much of a burden to the tax payer. What does this pleb actually do other than talk bollocks?
Here’s a crazy idea…
Turn the offices in to affordable housing.
:O
As a taxpayer, and knowing that whether or not we they’re occupied that we’ll be paying for them, I’d like people to be able to work where they feel the most comfortable.
Okay, so sell them. You’ve already sold off everything else, even stuff that would be making the government money. Why do we need these empty offices?
Yeah, cos this lot haven’t cost the taxpayers anything…
I thought they had hotdesking implemented with 1:2 ratio of desk to people…
Working in Westminster at Government offices prior to the pandemic it was often two to a desk when hotdesking. I had to go in during the pandemic and these same offices were completely empty and it was weird.
I get the benefits of being in the office for some situations but a blanket return to the way it was is just daft. Remote working is here to stay for a lot of people and is very efficient along with some time face to face.
A review of office space usage is needed and could probably be reduced which would definitely benefit the tax payer.
Was spaffing billions up the wall on shitty PPE or a useless track and trace system not a waste to the taxpayer?
What a cretinous twat!
Offices using more electricity are an even bigger cost
He himself is a massive cost to the taxpayer with no tangible benefit. Fuck off.
A lot those building in whitehall have been sold off to private companies, forcing the civil service out of central london.
Admiralty arch is one such building. So is the building that houses the Winston churchil war rooms. Now owned by a private company.
This fool can complain all he likes, the truth is he and his government are the ones selling off public property to their mates.
I know I shouldn’t get THAT wound up about it but this guy and his attitude is really fucking pissing me off.
What is the ISSUE? Honestly? People are much happier working from home and the work still gets done, there’s less people crammed into train carriages and less cars on the road and people can save a fortune living like this. Why is this knuckle dragging control freak insisting everyone comes back to the misery of a 6am alarm clock to arrive at 9am and not get back home until 6:30pm?
Working from home has been the best thing to ever happen to me. I cannot face ever going back to an office now I’ve experienced remote working. I save about £80 a week on public transport, save about 3 hours a day commuting and my mental health has improved so much. I don’t need to deal with trains being delayed or cancelled and my wages getting docked as a result of it (as I’m paid hourly) and as someone with social anxiety and body dysmorphia I also don’t miss stupid team meetings in person and having to deal with awkward small talk and conversations in the canteen and at the water cooler. I also don’t need to get dressed up in uncomfortable office wear just to sit at a desk and take phone calls.
Just fuck off. Please. I’m not sitting around on Netflix. I’m not skiving and avoiding my responsibilities. I’m logging in at exactly 9am, working until my shift ends and at 5:30pm I’m a free man and already ready to go visit my family or start cooking dinner and that’s the way I fucking love it.
I also have Marfan Syndrome and I’m weak as fuck physically and I usually came home from work absolutely exhausted and my joints hurting. I usually just had enough energy to microwave a shitty ready meal and watch TV for half an hour before going to bed. That’s not a way to live.
Right, sure, unoccupied government offices are costing money, but they’re costing more money (in electricity, etc. costs) when occupied. People working from home are still working and likely making net savings because of the huge cost of public transport. Having been a London commuter, it’s probably doing wonders for their mental health and stress levels.
In the future, perhaps they could considering renting empty work spaces out to e.g. hotdesking companies, creative spaces/studios or even converting space to affordable accommodation. That way you make more.
I say that JRM is a cost to the taxpayer and both his heart and his head are more empty than any office could ever be.
He should stop being a MOGG and stop wasting papers leaving notes on empty desks.
If you were to picture the person in the UK who should be the very furthest from any influence or power in 2022, you might come close to picturing this thing. I wish him every ill.
Mogg’s salary is an unjustifiable cost to the taxpayer. Important savings could be made by firing him.
I actually agree with him for once, yes, they are a cost to taxpayers. I just don’t agree with his solution. They will still be a cost to taxpayers if civil servants are in the offices. Since it has been proven that they can work effectively from home and most of them prefer it too, the sensible solution would be to sell the offices and buy/rent smaller ones.
They are also a cost to the taxpayer when people are sitting in them, if the work can be done as effectively from home. Let’s get rid of them and go permanent remote.
> Whitehall offices are ‘cost to taxpayer’
As is your wife’s ancestral home, £7m or so I think he claimed for that.
> Writing in the Mail On Sunday, Mr Rees-Mogg said: “Those who are at their desks every day seem to be younger, hard-working and ambitious civil servants, often renting house-shares in London for whom the office provides the right environment for work.
“often renting house-shares in London”. And who’s responsible for that? Twatty twat twatting all over the place.
Is Somerset Capital Management involved in commercial lets?
What’s best for the taxpayer is having civil servants who are happy and motivated in their work. His pointless passive-aggressive prodding to get them all back into the office every day so he can helicopter over them and satisfy his middle-manager complex will just push the best ones out, and lower morale across the rest.
So expensive offices in the middle of London is a cost to tax payers, and the extra pay that civil servants who work in London is also a cost to taxpayers.
If only there was some sort of solution that solved both these problems.
Working from… some other place that isn’t a London office perhaps.
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Wait, so they’re not a cost to the taxpayer when occupied? What a buffoon.
The very sight of the man, or hearing his voice makes me so irrational I can’t comment about him in a rational or balanced way. Another super-wealthy Tory so out of touch with ordinary people he may as well be from another planet.
How? I assume the Palace of Westminster is pretty much paid for these days, which means the day to day running costs should be dramatically reduced?
Anyway – do you know what is a cost to the taxpayer? MPs that work for themselves and don’t care about their constituents.
Feels like that if his department cant make a cost saving with people WFH it needs a change of leadership.
He says offices are a cost to the tax paper, but surely he’s just as much of a burden to the tax payer. What does this pleb actually do other than talk bollocks?
Here’s a crazy idea…
Turn the offices in to affordable housing.
:O
As a taxpayer, and knowing that whether or not we they’re occupied that we’ll be paying for them, I’d like people to be able to work where they feel the most comfortable.
Okay, so sell them. You’ve already sold off everything else, even stuff that would be making the government money. Why do we need these empty offices?
Yeah, cos this lot haven’t cost the taxpayers anything…
I thought they had hotdesking implemented with 1:2 ratio of desk to people…
Working in Westminster at Government offices prior to the pandemic it was often two to a desk when hotdesking. I had to go in during the pandemic and these same offices were completely empty and it was weird.
I get the benefits of being in the office for some situations but a blanket return to the way it was is just daft. Remote working is here to stay for a lot of people and is very efficient along with some time face to face.
A review of office space usage is needed and could probably be reduced which would definitely benefit the tax payer.
Was spaffing billions up the wall on shitty PPE or a useless track and trace system not a waste to the taxpayer?
What a cretinous twat!
Offices using more electricity are an even bigger cost
He himself is a massive cost to the taxpayer with no tangible benefit. Fuck off.
A lot those building in whitehall have been sold off to private companies, forcing the civil service out of central london.
Admiralty arch is one such building. So is the building that houses the Winston churchil war rooms. Now owned by a private company.
This fool can complain all he likes, the truth is he and his government are the ones selling off public property to their mates.
I know I shouldn’t get THAT wound up about it but this guy and his attitude is really fucking pissing me off.
What is the ISSUE? Honestly? People are much happier working from home and the work still gets done, there’s less people crammed into train carriages and less cars on the road and people can save a fortune living like this. Why is this knuckle dragging control freak insisting everyone comes back to the misery of a 6am alarm clock to arrive at 9am and not get back home until 6:30pm?
Working from home has been the best thing to ever happen to me. I cannot face ever going back to an office now I’ve experienced remote working. I save about £80 a week on public transport, save about 3 hours a day commuting and my mental health has improved so much. I don’t need to deal with trains being delayed or cancelled and my wages getting docked as a result of it (as I’m paid hourly) and as someone with social anxiety and body dysmorphia I also don’t miss stupid team meetings in person and having to deal with awkward small talk and conversations in the canteen and at the water cooler. I also don’t need to get dressed up in uncomfortable office wear just to sit at a desk and take phone calls.
Just fuck off. Please. I’m not sitting around on Netflix. I’m not skiving and avoiding my responsibilities. I’m logging in at exactly 9am, working until my shift ends and at 5:30pm I’m a free man and already ready to go visit my family or start cooking dinner and that’s the way I fucking love it.
I also have Marfan Syndrome and I’m weak as fuck physically and I usually came home from work absolutely exhausted and my joints hurting. I usually just had enough energy to microwave a shitty ready meal and watch TV for half an hour before going to bed. That’s not a way to live.
Right, sure, unoccupied government offices are costing money, but they’re costing more money (in electricity, etc. costs) when occupied. People working from home are still working and likely making net savings because of the huge cost of public transport. Having been a London commuter, it’s probably doing wonders for their mental health and stress levels.
In the future, perhaps they could considering renting empty work spaces out to e.g. hotdesking companies, creative spaces/studios or even converting space to affordable accommodation. That way you make more.
I say that JRM is a cost to the taxpayer and both his heart and his head are more empty than any office could ever be.
He should stop being a MOGG and stop wasting papers leaving notes on empty desks.
If you were to picture the person in the UK who should be the very furthest from any influence or power in 2022, you might come close to picturing this thing. I wish him every ill.
Mogg’s salary is an unjustifiable cost to the taxpayer. Important savings could be made by firing him.
I actually agree with him for once, yes, they are a cost to taxpayers. I just don’t agree with his solution. They will still be a cost to taxpayers if civil servants are in the offices. Since it has been proven that they can work effectively from home and most of them prefer it too, the sensible solution would be to sell the offices and buy/rent smaller ones.
They are also a cost to the taxpayer when people are sitting in them, if the work can be done as effectively from home. Let’s get rid of them and go permanent remote.
> Whitehall offices are ‘cost to taxpayer’
As is your wife’s ancestral home, £7m or so I think he claimed for that.
> Writing in the Mail On Sunday, Mr Rees-Mogg said: “Those who are at their desks every day seem to be younger, hard-working and ambitious civil servants, often renting house-shares in London for whom the office provides the right environment for work.
“often renting house-shares in London”. And who’s responsible for that? Twatty twat twatting all over the place.
Is Somerset Capital Management involved in commercial lets?
What’s best for the taxpayer is having civil servants who are happy and motivated in their work. His pointless passive-aggressive prodding to get them all back into the office every day so he can helicopter over them and satisfy his middle-manager complex will just push the best ones out, and lower morale across the rest.
So expensive offices in the middle of London is a cost to tax payers, and the extra pay that civil servants who work in London is also a cost to taxpayers.
If only there was some sort of solution that solved both these problems.
Working from… some other place that isn’t a London office perhaps.