I’m sure any day now Boris will pop-those ‘*40 new hospitals*’ out of his pocket
>The independent sector receives about 13.5% of the £14.8bn the NHS in England spends on mental health, a dramatic rise since 2005 when it was paid £951m.
I hate articles like this that give incomplete figures, what was the percentage in 2005?
Inflation since 2005 is 47% so that accounts for about half the increase.
We need a right to die euthanasia option. It is what many of us want, and it would be cheaper than trying to keep us alive.
Nobody wants to hear that, and I’m sorry if it upsets anyone.
And they’re still expecting the police to pick up the slack where they’re failing.
I have been on a NHS waiting list for Adult Adhd for coming up to 4 years now. I got a call on Friday asking if I would be happy to be seen by a private company in the next few months or continue to wait for a unknown time. I jumped at the chance and asked some probing questions into the cost to the NHS.
Not much was given away but from what I gleamed the price difference between the NHS treatment and the private treatment was negligible. Staff, resources and time still need to be paid for be it NHS or private.
I owe my life to the NHS but not everything is black and white, private doesn’t automatically mean bad.
The taxpayer – private money funnel is working as expected then.
Near to me there used to be a huge “asylum” which closed down years ago. The guy that owns my dad’s supported accommodation used to work there as a nurse, now he gets paid £££ by the council to offer the same service all while paying the staff minimum wage.
**Checks if the Tories or Labour are in power**
[It’s the Tories]
“Ah yes, standard Tories, cunts”
I used to work in an adolescent mental health ward and most of the time we never had any spare beds and neither did our sister ward in the trust.
This meant that any young people being referred through the community team or A&E would essentially go to one of the private hospitals out of area in neighbouring countries, and these outrageously expensive beds would be paid for by the NHS.
This was a few years ago and as I understand it things have in fact gotten way worse. I have just left a community CAMHS team where the waiting list from referral, assessment and then actually seeing a clinician was over two years.
That’s about a tenth of what Boris said we’d save by leaving the EU (£350 million a week, or £18 billion a year), right? And he promised that those savings would fund the NHS. So problem solved!
… Right? Guys? Hey, why are you laughing??
Back handers here there and everywhere! What has this country become 😔
NHS could do way more with that money than a private hospital
So let me get this straight, my N.I/tax pays for the NHS, which then in turn pays private hospitals to look after mental health patients, but yet I can’t get any, let alone adequate mental health care when I request it.
2 billion seems like a lot. Where exactly is it going?
The NHS pays loads of private businesses for services.
The majority of GP surgeries are private practises.
£2bn is 4 days of NHS funding. So not a lot then really.
Imagine how god awful the telephone GP system is now.
Now imagine that with mental health. That’s why it’s being paid
How much would it cost for the NHS to provide the same service in-house. That’s the only metric that matters here
The NHS has been privatised since PFI in the early 2000s to the health and social care act in 2012. While it remains free at the point of use, it is not free – our taxes go to private companies that supply our public services.
The NHS is essentially privatised with the the only thing that affects patients left to go being a widespread private health insurance market
Doesn’t a new hospital cost like 200 million to build and kit out? Kinda puts in perspective how “cost effective” privatising everything was huh.
So that is 5p in every £10 of income tax being handed off to people making a profit. Given the profit for the Services is frequently agreed to be 10% that would be 0.5p in every £ of your income tax being usd for profit not health care services. Which is just for mental health services. Which are acknowledged to be phenomenally poor. Clearly the profit is not driving up quality or access or outcomes. So what is it for?
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I’m sure any day now Boris will pop-those ‘*40 new hospitals*’ out of his pocket
>The independent sector receives about 13.5% of the £14.8bn the NHS in England spends on mental health, a dramatic rise since 2005 when it was paid £951m.
I hate articles like this that give incomplete figures, what was the percentage in 2005?
Inflation since 2005 is 47% so that accounts for about half the increase.
We need a right to die euthanasia option. It is what many of us want, and it would be cheaper than trying to keep us alive.
Nobody wants to hear that, and I’m sorry if it upsets anyone.
And they’re still expecting the police to pick up the slack where they’re failing.
I have been on a NHS waiting list for Adult Adhd for coming up to 4 years now. I got a call on Friday asking if I would be happy to be seen by a private company in the next few months or continue to wait for a unknown time. I jumped at the chance and asked some probing questions into the cost to the NHS.
Not much was given away but from what I gleamed the price difference between the NHS treatment and the private treatment was negligible. Staff, resources and time still need to be paid for be it NHS or private.
I owe my life to the NHS but not everything is black and white, private doesn’t automatically mean bad.
The taxpayer – private money funnel is working as expected then.
Near to me there used to be a huge “asylum” which closed down years ago. The guy that owns my dad’s supported accommodation used to work there as a nurse, now he gets paid £££ by the council to offer the same service all while paying the staff minimum wage.
**Checks if the Tories or Labour are in power**
[It’s the Tories]
“Ah yes, standard Tories, cunts”
I used to work in an adolescent mental health ward and most of the time we never had any spare beds and neither did our sister ward in the trust.
This meant that any young people being referred through the community team or A&E would essentially go to one of the private hospitals out of area in neighbouring countries, and these outrageously expensive beds would be paid for by the NHS.
This was a few years ago and as I understand it things have in fact gotten way worse. I have just left a community CAMHS team where the waiting list from referral, assessment and then actually seeing a clinician was over two years.
That’s about a tenth of what Boris said we’d save by leaving the EU (£350 million a week, or £18 billion a year), right? And he promised that those savings would fund the NHS. So problem solved!
… Right? Guys? Hey, why are you laughing??
Back handers here there and everywhere! What has this country become 😔
NHS could do way more with that money than a private hospital
So let me get this straight, my N.I/tax pays for the NHS, which then in turn pays private hospitals to look after mental health patients, but yet I can’t get any, let alone adequate mental health care when I request it.
2 billion seems like a lot. Where exactly is it going?
The NHS pays loads of private businesses for services.
The majority of GP surgeries are private practises.
£2bn is 4 days of NHS funding. So not a lot then really.
Imagine how god awful the telephone GP system is now.
Now imagine that with mental health. That’s why it’s being paid
How much would it cost for the NHS to provide the same service in-house. That’s the only metric that matters here
The NHS has been privatised since PFI in the early 2000s to the health and social care act in 2012. While it remains free at the point of use, it is not free – our taxes go to private companies that supply our public services.
The NHS is essentially privatised with the the only thing that affects patients left to go being a widespread private health insurance market
Doesn’t a new hospital cost like 200 million to build and kit out? Kinda puts in perspective how “cost effective” privatising everything was huh.
So that is 5p in every £10 of income tax being handed off to people making a profit. Given the profit for the Services is frequently agreed to be 10% that would be 0.5p in every £ of your income tax being usd for profit not health care services. Which is just for mental health services. Which are acknowledged to be phenomenally poor. Clearly the profit is not driving up quality or access or outcomes. So what is it for?