IF Keir is found guilty then he should resign, perhaps during PMQ when he can ask Boris if he plans to do the same.
Edit: According to what I’ve read some of the 2019 Tory intake are very worried about this happening. There was apparently a leak of a whatsapp group message about this.
“No politician is above the law… If they get a fixed-penalty notice after a police investigation, it’s extremely difficult for them to continue.”
*Looks at Boris and the other 49 tories receiving fines*
Yeah… I’m not gonna defend anyone blatantly breaking rules, especially during Lockdown, but I can see why that quote came from a Lib Dem and not a Tory
I have a suspicion they will be asking Sue Gray to bow include Starmer’s activities in her report as a way to delay it more, or they will say “obviously this report is one sided because it didn’t also investigate Labour’s rule breaking”.
If only they put as much effort into running the country as they did with this shit
Nothing stopping him being exonerated, after seeing Boris out the door first, then being re-elected, lol. Can only hope.
It’s disgraceful that people give more of a shit about the LOTO having a beer/dinner with his workmates, which was as far as I can tell legal at the time, than they do the actual government breaking the very laws they made non-stop throughout lockdown.
Does anyone give two hoots about Keir having a beer with colleagues? Not rhetorical, it’s a genuine question. I’ve only heard it mentioned in passing with a few people and the complaints were only over how overblown all the fuss is.
I’m nowhere near a Labour supporter but the attention this is getting is so silly. I expected the Tories to latch onto it purely for childish playground “nuuhhh you did it too” reasons (which honestly is sort of fair enough after the amount of shit flung at Boris for his back garden gathering). But I’m unpleasantly suprised about the media churning out article after article about a non-event.
From all the noise about half a dozen people eating a takeaway while standing up, you could almost believe the trumped up nonsense is equivalent to dozens of incidents involving hundreds of people and numerous suitcases of wine.
What a perverse joy it must bring to the tories to be taking so many people for mugs, and being proven right.
This is ridiculous. Everyone’s arguing over the semantics of whether it was work related or not, and meanwhile the government were having parties with kareoke, suitcases of booze and pissed people playing on swings on the garden.
I mean for fucks sake. One is a clear, continuous violation of the rules and the other is either an honest mistake, or a not so honest mistake. It’s like a rapist trying to get released from prison because they helped catch a pickpocket.
If Starmer is found guilty then so should Johnson for the cheese and wine party. They happened around the same time and with the same restrictions in place, therefore the Tories should hope Starmer is not found guilty and does not resign. It would be all too easy to throw it right back at Johnson.
If Kier gets fined and resigns it will look even worse for Boris. Lose lose lol
I’m kind of hoping Boris doesn’t resign so the Tories can’t pull a look were completely different now act and pretend they have a blank slate
How has this thread turned into a “will he – won’t he” about Keir Starmer, when it’s the Tories that appear to have got more fines?
It’s fine for Boris to stay.
Every election he will leech more and more seats to moderate parties.
Ive already heard people moaning “theyre all hypocrites theyre all the same” so it’ll work. It always works.
“We may have misbehaved, but what about the other guy?” says government which has lost all credibility.
What really annoys me over the whole partygate thing and the repeated attempts by the Tories to equate the Starmer Beer situation and the multiple Downing Street parties (that we know about so far) is that, so far as I am aware, Keir Starmer has not *REPEATEDLY & DEMONSTRABLY* mislead Parliament about the subject.
The same cannot be said for the Prime Minister….
Tory propaganda, nothing more.
It’s the latest attempt to distract from Partygate, paired with every Tory prick and delusional tory-voter’s favourite tu quoque fallacy whenever proof of the Tories’ corruption is blatantly clear for them to see: “wElL LabOuR/cOrbYn wOulD hAvE bEEn wOrSe!!1!!”
They already tried it recently by phrasing BoJo’s dumpster fire of an interview with Susannah Reid (who not only crucified him, but exposed his narcissism and self-entitlement with that freedom bus pass comment) in the headlines as him being ‘beaten up’ and tried to claim he had food poisoning and had been sick on his suit only moments before (it’s a lie because there’s only one reason Boris would puke down his suit, and it has more to do with that wine chiller they bought for No 10, hint hint.)
So if Starmer is found to have broken rules, he should only agree to resign if Boris does. One lockdown break for him vs at least 5 breaks for Boris (that we know about.) The only silver lining is that Boris is royally screwed and will be forced out eventually. Then his cabinet can go with him, we can work on actually un-fucking this rightwing insanity-addled country, and the Tories can go back to the drawing board for another plan to control and oppress the people of this country.
Provided said people don’t accidentally vote for that oppression, of course. Or is £900 per month for heating not enough?
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The Tories could live to regret this.
IF Keir is found guilty then he should resign, perhaps during PMQ when he can ask Boris if he plans to do the same.
Edit: According to what I’ve read some of the 2019 Tory intake are very worried about this happening. There was apparently a leak of a whatsapp group message about this.
“No politician is above the law… If they get a fixed-penalty notice after a police investigation, it’s extremely difficult for them to continue.”
*Looks at Boris and the other 49 tories receiving fines*
Yeah… I’m not gonna defend anyone blatantly breaking rules, especially during Lockdown, but I can see why that quote came from a Lib Dem and not a Tory
I have a suspicion they will be asking Sue Gray to bow include Starmer’s activities in her report as a way to delay it more, or they will say “obviously this report is one sided because it didn’t also investigate Labour’s rule breaking”.
If only they put as much effort into running the country as they did with this shit
Nothing stopping him being exonerated, after seeing Boris out the door first, then being re-elected, lol. Can only hope.
It’s disgraceful that people give more of a shit about the LOTO having a beer/dinner with his workmates, which was as far as I can tell legal at the time, than they do the actual government breaking the very laws they made non-stop throughout lockdown.
Does anyone give two hoots about Keir having a beer with colleagues? Not rhetorical, it’s a genuine question. I’ve only heard it mentioned in passing with a few people and the complaints were only over how overblown all the fuss is.
I’m nowhere near a Labour supporter but the attention this is getting is so silly. I expected the Tories to latch onto it purely for childish playground “nuuhhh you did it too” reasons (which honestly is sort of fair enough after the amount of shit flung at Boris for his back garden gathering). But I’m unpleasantly suprised about the media churning out article after article about a non-event.
From all the noise about half a dozen people eating a takeaway while standing up, you could almost believe the trumped up nonsense is equivalent to dozens of incidents involving hundreds of people and numerous suitcases of wine.
What a perverse joy it must bring to the tories to be taking so many people for mugs, and being proven right.
This is ridiculous. Everyone’s arguing over the semantics of whether it was work related or not, and meanwhile the government were having parties with kareoke, suitcases of booze and pissed people playing on swings on the garden.
I mean for fucks sake. One is a clear, continuous violation of the rules and the other is either an honest mistake, or a not so honest mistake. It’s like a rapist trying to get released from prison because they helped catch a pickpocket.
If Starmer is found guilty then so should Johnson for the cheese and wine party. They happened around the same time and with the same restrictions in place, therefore the Tories should hope Starmer is not found guilty and does not resign. It would be all too easy to throw it right back at Johnson.
If Kier gets fined and resigns it will look even worse for Boris. Lose lose lol
I’m kind of hoping Boris doesn’t resign so the Tories can’t pull a look were completely different now act and pretend they have a blank slate
How has this thread turned into a “will he – won’t he” about Keir Starmer, when it’s the Tories that appear to have got more fines?
It’s fine for Boris to stay.
Every election he will leech more and more seats to moderate parties.
Ive already heard people moaning “theyre all hypocrites theyre all the same” so it’ll work. It always works.
“We may have misbehaved, but what about the other guy?” says government which has lost all credibility.
What really annoys me over the whole partygate thing and the repeated attempts by the Tories to equate the Starmer Beer situation and the multiple Downing Street parties (that we know about so far) is that, so far as I am aware, Keir Starmer has not *REPEATEDLY & DEMONSTRABLY* mislead Parliament about the subject.
The same cannot be said for the Prime Minister….
Tory propaganda, nothing more.
It’s the latest attempt to distract from Partygate, paired with every Tory prick and delusional tory-voter’s favourite tu quoque fallacy whenever proof of the Tories’ corruption is blatantly clear for them to see: “wElL LabOuR/cOrbYn wOulD hAvE bEEn wOrSe!!1!!”
They already tried it recently by phrasing BoJo’s dumpster fire of an interview with Susannah Reid (who not only crucified him, but exposed his narcissism and self-entitlement with that freedom bus pass comment) in the headlines as him being ‘beaten up’ and tried to claim he had food poisoning and had been sick on his suit only moments before (it’s a lie because there’s only one reason Boris would puke down his suit, and it has more to do with that wine chiller they bought for No 10, hint hint.)
So if Starmer is found to have broken rules, he should only agree to resign if Boris does. One lockdown break for him vs at least 5 breaks for Boris (that we know about.) The only silver lining is that Boris is royally screwed and will be forced out eventually. Then his cabinet can go with him, we can work on actually un-fucking this rightwing insanity-addled country, and the Tories can go back to the drawing board for another plan to control and oppress the people of this country.
Provided said people don’t accidentally vote for that oppression, of course. Or is £900 per month for heating not enough?