Can’t wait for the gammon faced responses, but there really is a housing crisis in Ireland.
Bait.
Wonder how she feels about the abundance of pine furniture and fittings that seem to be a uniquely irish rental property thing.
Nice b8 m8
But for real, our housing quality aint great.
New builds are definitely getting better, which is why I hate people saying we need to roll back our quality standards so developers can deliver cheaper housing.
It’s like people don’t remember all the disasterous problems that came during the laisé faire era of the celtic tiger.
You and me both, my friend.
And the FFG hardcore will tell you that not only are they great value but that they’re totally worth the ever climbing prices for them.
So true…so many poorer country in EU have better quality home than Dublin!! Wonder where all the fund from EU went…thank you to the government for managing the country so poorly! Almost made you regret the English 😂
Is it to much to expect someone to build a good quality home, at a reasonable price, in a reasonable time frame & make it available on the open market?
all the houses built this millenium were built out of unusually thick cardboard im certain of it, I could kick down the walls of the house im living in with very little effort
Honestly she’s right
My 2c. There are some shoddy builds and some good builds. When buying, especially if it is an estate, find out who the developer was/is and ask around about them. The developer that built our house has an excellent reputation and it shows in the build quality of ours.
I have travelled around Africa pretty extensively and have a built a house too (well, an extension), and the houses are mostly solid because they are built entirely with brick or block. plasterboard is something you only see in offices. What is less evident is the attention to detail around energy efficiency (because its not really relevant). They would have the equivalent rating of something like Z Ber rating here. little attention is paid to insulation and sealing gaps etc. This brings the cost of building right down and explains why blocks can be used throughout (in addition to labour cost being scales of 10 lower too)
All that said, I think you would still find a lesser incidence of construction failures per capita in Ireland compared to other developing countries, especially commercial buildings
I do find it offensive when foreigners come here for help, get helped and complain, but in this case she isn’t wrong at all. Every house I’ve lived in in college since moving out has had plenty of problems
She’s dead right. This Irish attitude of shur everything is grand means we put up with incredibly low standards for many issues relative to the level of wealth we have here, housing being number one.
I’m calling shenanigans here. Worse than Nigeria??
People don’t realise how developed Africa has become in the last decade.
Am foreigner, do agree, places in north Dublin look like something in rural Latvia. Minus the bullet holes. For now.
The quality of rented accommodation in this country is fucking shocking and I’d wager anyone who has lived in another western city country would say the same.
I have friends and family living in countries all over the place and when I hear what kind of quality of accommodation they can get for the prices they pay, it makes me sad. It’s like we have a cultural aversion to providing decent standards of accommodation for people.
I guess this is what happens when you stretch the population of a country without thinking how the current infrastructure is going to react to that.
Now homes scarce for everyone Irish and immigrants, and the houses that are going up for sale are way over priced due to that scarcity.
But we also have a government who are 100% complicit with foreign vulture funds, which is grown the house bubble all over again.
Builders been forced to make 20% of the house they are building into free Social house and then the builder take the hit for that. Which means the cost of those free houses need to be off loaded and spread between the people who can just about afford their house and making the house more expensive than it should have been also allowing you to know you may be spend €250k + for your new house, but there are others around you didn’t have to pay a penny for the same house. That sounds fair right.
The housing system in Ireland is screwed due to shit government and the think that putting SF or anyone else in charge will fix is most like not make a difference, might even get worse actually 😂
Ah the mirror, race baiting as usual,
The link is an opinion piece of someone with political aspirations. Low effort.
isn’t the mirror banned here?, also to be fair poor quality housing in developing countries like african and south american states is usually huts or shacks, that being said their middle class probably enjoys something comparable to people here.
i came from a country that the yearly minimum wage equals to 2 months of salary in ireland.
even though my parents managed to get a better house than 90% of the house I’ve been here, and that’s the 7th year I’ve been living here.
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Can’t wait for the gammon faced responses, but there really is a housing crisis in Ireland.
Bait.
Wonder how she feels about the abundance of pine furniture and fittings that seem to be a uniquely irish rental property thing.
Nice b8 m8
But for real, our housing quality aint great.
New builds are definitely getting better, which is why I hate people saying we need to roll back our quality standards so developers can deliver cheaper housing.
It’s like people don’t remember all the disasterous problems that came during the laisé faire era of the celtic tiger.
You and me both, my friend.
And the FFG hardcore will tell you that not only are they great value but that they’re totally worth the ever climbing prices for them.
So true…so many poorer country in EU have better quality home than Dublin!! Wonder where all the fund from EU went…thank you to the government for managing the country so poorly! Almost made you regret the English 😂
Is it to much to expect someone to build a good quality home, at a reasonable price, in a reasonable time frame & make it available on the open market?
all the houses built this millenium were built out of unusually thick cardboard im certain of it, I could kick down the walls of the house im living in with very little effort
Honestly she’s right
My 2c. There are some shoddy builds and some good builds. When buying, especially if it is an estate, find out who the developer was/is and ask around about them. The developer that built our house has an excellent reputation and it shows in the build quality of ours.
I have travelled around Africa pretty extensively and have a built a house too (well, an extension), and the houses are mostly solid because they are built entirely with brick or block. plasterboard is something you only see in offices. What is less evident is the attention to detail around energy efficiency (because its not really relevant). They would have the equivalent rating of something like Z Ber rating here. little attention is paid to insulation and sealing gaps etc. This brings the cost of building right down and explains why blocks can be used throughout (in addition to labour cost being scales of 10 lower too)
All that said, I think you would still find a lesser incidence of construction failures per capita in Ireland compared to other developing countries, especially commercial buildings
I do find it offensive when foreigners come here for help, get helped and complain, but in this case she isn’t wrong at all. Every house I’ve lived in in college since moving out has had plenty of problems
She’s dead right. This Irish attitude of shur everything is grand means we put up with incredibly low standards for many issues relative to the level of wealth we have here, housing being number one.
I’m calling shenanigans here. Worse than Nigeria??
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We’re not
People don’t realise how developed Africa has become in the last decade.
Am foreigner, do agree, places in north Dublin look like something in rural Latvia. Minus the bullet holes. For now.
The quality of rented accommodation in this country is fucking shocking and I’d wager anyone who has lived in another western city country would say the same.
I have friends and family living in countries all over the place and when I hear what kind of quality of accommodation they can get for the prices they pay, it makes me sad. It’s like we have a cultural aversion to providing decent standards of accommodation for people.
I guess this is what happens when you stretch the population of a country without thinking how the current infrastructure is going to react to that.
Now homes scarce for everyone Irish and immigrants, and the houses that are going up for sale are way over priced due to that scarcity.
But we also have a government who are 100% complicit with foreign vulture funds, which is grown the house bubble all over again.
Builders been forced to make 20% of the house they are building into free Social house and then the builder take the hit for that. Which means the cost of those free houses need to be off loaded and spread between the people who can just about afford their house and making the house more expensive than it should have been also allowing you to know you may be spend €250k + for your new house, but there are others around you didn’t have to pay a penny for the same house. That sounds fair right.
The housing system in Ireland is screwed due to shit government and the think that putting SF or anyone else in charge will fix is most like not make a difference, might even get worse actually 😂
Ah the mirror, race baiting as usual,
The link is an opinion piece of someone with political aspirations. Low effort.
isn’t the mirror banned here?, also to be fair poor quality housing in developing countries like african and south american states is usually huts or shacks, that being said their middle class probably enjoys something comparable to people here.
i came from a country that the yearly minimum wage equals to 2 months of salary in ireland.
even though my parents managed to get a better house than 90% of the house I’ve been here, and that’s the 7th year I’ve been living here.