Just moved to a new apartment, and 2/3 of the lights in the kitchen/living room have only these cables to connect lamps.

Its not a private rental, but a some housing company who owns the place, is it our responsibility to get wiring adapters to connect up "normal" lamps?

by ItsAMemeMARlO

32 comments

  1. Yes, connecting ceiling lamps directly to wires is quite common.

  3. No. Although that’s common, but it’s illegal. Someone from the housing company should come and attach proper connectors.

  5. yes… and also no.

    It’s common for Finns to take the light fixtures, but NOT the connections! This is a major fire and safety hazard and you should contact the housing company ASAP to have them install a compliant faceplate.

  6. No. The first picture seems to have some sort of plastic mounting base plate for a lamp to basically screw into. The lamp itself is missing though. And there should be at least a hook there as well.

  7. That looks dangerous. I have never seen bare wires dangling out.

  10. Well, the second one looks a bit like the previous tenant took a permament light fixture with them.

  11. Somebody moved out and took all the lighting with them, even the ones that were kinda permanently installed. Not quite normal, but it happens.

    Easiest for you is to get [lever operated connectors](https://www.tokmanni.fi/vipuliitin-harju-3-os-5-kpl-6438140915832) and put one on each wire, then connect the light fixture to those. But if you do not know how you should probably ask help from someone who does have the knowledge. The 230V current in those wires is lethal.

  12. I think it’s normal to have wires showing, but not having hooks or anything is quite strange.

  13. I suspect that the previous owner had lights that didn’t fit over the hook/socket that there is usually on new buildings, took them off and forgot to put them back on (or had an electrician do it, but didn’t bother to use money when moving out) I had to do the same to fit some spot lights in our previous apartment, but I of course put them back on.

    Those low profile spot lights sometimes have their own hanging equipment that you screw directly to same holes as the hook.

  14. Someone removed the normal base plates for lamps that have a built in one. They left the lamp specific one in picture 1 and removed everything in picture 2.

    Ask the housing company to install new base plates, it’s illegal to leave just bare wire

  15. Previous tenant has taken too much and left the cables to an illegal condition. There needs to be at least a connector strip these days if I recall correctly.

  19. Builder here sometimes you need to but wires in the seams for the structural purposes, not because the planner forgot the electrick boxes. You can get a lamp or a socket foot there if you want, someone took it i blame moving companys. There is allso some wierd people ripping saunas and wall radiators with them.

  20. No hooks, no cover, I don’t think that’s normal.

  22. Someone’s taken the plate with them. Good news is go to any prisma/citymarket and you’ll find a new one. Just someone way too lazy who left there.

  24. New apartments come with ceiling sockets with a hook.
    Some lights can’t be installed in those and the ceiling sockets need to be removed and new light is screwed into the ceiling directly.

    So the previous tenant hasn’t put those sockets back. Land lord should have those installed.

    First picture just has a part from some old light still attached and it has to be removed

  25. In Finland, the light fixture and all parts that come in the box belong to the tenet that installed them. All the next person owns is the wires.

  28. Report to the housing company, preferably using email or something that leaves you with written proof, because it looks like they took parts of a lamp that belongs to the apartment. If you’re unlucky, the company could blame you when you move from there and make you pay for it.

    So report (try to make it clear that there’s no hook at all in the ceiling and that significant parts of a permanent lamp/ lighting fixture are missing) so that a) they know it was the previous tenant that took them, and also b) to get them fixed by the company.

  29. Who needs modern protection insulators when we can be back in the 50s? 🙌

  30. I would say it’s not normal, because legally speaking only an electrician can hook those wires into anything. A “normie” can never operate with 230V unless they or their work will be supervised by an actual electrician. I see bunch of comments saying that’s completely normal, though, and it’s kind of making me nervous.

    If you do the connection wrong and the wire(s) gets to touch anything on the lamp itself, the next time you go change the lightbulb when the fuse is on (because who shuts the fuses for that) you’ll get shocked by it. Or someone else will. If you get hit by 230V you will not walk out of it. So yeah.. I don’t recommend.

  32. Brown is phase, blue is neutral, yellow green is residual.

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