As with the Mundo thing I think these are shitty people saying horrible things. But I think reporting them to the police undermines what was serious legislation and even though the police will politely ignore it, the news report still validates in the public mind all the dumb hot takes people said about getting arrested for saying stupid shit.
Half the cops probably agree with her.
People need to stop phoning the police when people say dumb, offensive but ultimately not illegal things.
This is ridiculous, she is clearly a twat but what a waste of time and money.
Trying to get someone arrested for a crime because they are not a nice person.
A lesson in how to turn this around this narrative into a win for the right wing viewpoint.
That’s a bit over the top. She showed her true colours and will likely face a backlash for that but is what she said enough to warrant police action?
I think this will just fuel the fire and make reform more popular and embolden the racist twats that support them.
I mean showing herself up on national tv to be as big an idiot as people suspected should be punishment enough.
Whoever reported this should get done for wasting police time. It’s a charmless and unpleasant remark, that’s all.
This is ridiculous. I hate reform and what they stand for, but this is silly and undercuts actual efforts at holding reform to account for their racist and bigoted views. I’ve seen the video and I wouldn’t have thought about her use of the phrase “born and bred” until she paused and got flustered.
I do a lot of talking in front of people. Number 1 rule is if you flub you power through because few will notice or care if you don’t call attention to it.
Fuck me for defending reform. I need to clean myself now
>This, it was argued, could be considered a breach of Public Order Act 1986 under offences for “intentionally causing harassment, alarm or distress”.
Although parts of the Public Order Act 1986 do extend to Scotland the provision being referred to there does not as it only extends to England and Wales.
Complete non story.
So people are being reported to police in 20+ page dossiers for using the expression ‘born and bred’?
She said ‘I shouldn’t have said that’ but she’s probably won thousands of reform voters.
For Christ sake. I thought she said something racist or was inciting some kind of violence. More than half the country agrees with her. It’s getting bullshit that we can’t lay claim to where we were born and want a say in who lives here. What’s the point in having a country if the people born and bred here can’t have a say in who can live here?
Yeah and I don’t think we need to wonder who wasted police team by reporting her – a member of the SNP trying to get anything possible on reform , maybe it was squeaky clean Neil Gray perhaps
wow i’d love to form an opinion on this but unfortunately the fucking article won’t let me read it
good on them , Reform is the worst
For saying born and bred?
Her only real crime is a complete lack of media training.
No one would have batted an eye if she didn’t get completely flustered and back track.
Not only is she a racist bint, but she completely bumbled over the fact that there was a “local born and bred” rapist at large. **Not** a migrant.
Honestly I hope she gets investigated in some way. Saying that she was born and bred in Scotland shouldn’t be offensive and if people can potentially face police scrutiny over that comment, it’ll show just how stupid and dangerous these “Hate Crime Laws” can be!
Reporting someone to the police for stating they were born and bred in this country is shameless behavior. No wonder the snitch cowers in anonymity.
There seems to be an infantile culture of reporting politicians to the police just to get headlines that create the impression they have done something criminal, even where it is easily apparent that nothing criminal has gone on. It’s a kind of intimidation tactic and it’s not a useful way to behave.
This Councillor should be ridiculed for her obvious xenophobic and racist views, not least because the way she frame it made it sound like she was speaking for the whole town. However being an idiot isn’t a crime.
Can anyone explain what is supposed to be offensive about “born and bred”?
She committed no crime. Can see more people turning to reform.
There are quite a few Labour MPs who have “Born and Bred” in their Twitter bios. For example, Nadia Whittome Labour MP for Nottingham East . Nottingham Born and Bred. Paulette Hamilton also has this in her bio. Quite a few others as well.
This is so dumb I didn’t even think there was anything wrong she said and i speak as a migrant.
It’s a complete waste of police time. Police need to stop giving these fantasists any attention and take action against them for wasting police time.
The fact that someone took how many hours out of their day to make this report suggests they have way too much time on their hands.
Born and bred is not racist at all….what a complete waste of time, money and effort this is, pathetic complaint.
Not a crime. Its enough she let the mask slip
I am an immigrant, and let me tell you, the thing that annoys me. It’s when someone is being reported to police for executing their freedom of speech. How about let people/voters decide with their votes. That politician has not said anything offensive, or illegal. I really wish that some folks would stop being such cunts. Police should be used for protection from serious crimes and not for such pity shite, like opinions.
As much as I don’t like Reform, this is why they are winning. People feel that open debate is being shut down and that drives them to Reform.
The age of snowflakes is over, the age of a ‘minority’ of some kind reporting something overheard in public to the police in the hope of getting what, an arrest, a successful prosecution, hell even getting police time/personnel allocated…… is very low.
The police have more or less given up. Thouh I do note the zeal they prosecute certain online hate crimes. But that’s just a case of arresting the guy with the twitter account that’s literally in his name and has a selfie.
Everyone is extremely focused on the “born and bred” and conveniently ignores the neo-nazi rally part:
> The complaint also refers to Mackie-Brown’s attendance at an anti-migrant hotel protest .
> We previously revealed how the councillor shared a stage Patriotic Alternative member Richard McFarlane, who told the crowd that white people will be a minority in the UK “by the 2060s” at a rally outside the Cladhan Hotel in Falkirk in August.
> At the start of the rally, a handful of men performed Hitler salutes and one man was seen with a large Black Sun tattoo on the back of his head — an emblem widely used in neo-Nazi circles.
> Another group held a banner reading “Kill ’Em All: Let God Sort Them Out”.
> The complaint said this represented the “the most serious aspect of her misconduct” and added: “Councillor [Mackie] Brown’s silence during and after McFarlane’s speech represents a fundamental failure of leadership and potentially violates multiple code provisions.”
I suppose whoever wrote that article wanted to spin it that way: get everyone outraged at the [“These days, for saying you’re English”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkCBhKs4faI) aspect and completely forget the Hitler salutes, the Black sun tattoo, the threat of mass murder, and the sharing of a stage with [a neo-nazi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriotic_Alternative).
See doing this, it adds to a false narrative of Freedom of Speach being under attack, which on the whole is wrong
We knew what she meant, but the phrase “Born and bred” in my opinion aint racist, xenophobic or the like in most contexts
Ridiculous that she even corrected herself. Born and bread isn’t an offensive thing to say and there’s nothing wrong with being proud to be born and bread somewhere (even Falkirk, which I’m guilty myself of…)
Someone being reported to the police isn’t news. Anyone can report anything they want to the police.
Racists always slip. The interview was brilliant. This woman should not be in politics.
And a Scot should not be like her. Racism does not align with Scottish values.
Making an arse of yourself is not a crime. ’22 page dossier’ jeez
If Reform as an entity and Farage were not simply regurgitating the steps on Trump’s second rise to power taken from the project 2025 platform of lies built around intolerance and fear, as a vehicle to gain power and install a far right government, I wouldn’t be so worried about these little missteps.
Our country is, was and should always be anti fascist, the far right in America is demonising anti fascist ideals as terrorist ideals “antifa” is not an organisation, it was why we fought together in two world wars. Farage is far too close to Trump, the same groups that funded Trump, fund Farage, and they have installed a fascist dictatorship in America, most Britons do not want that in the UK. Brexit was the first step in isolating us from Europe.
Unfortunately they rely on people being too caught up in the culture wars they’ve created to be aware of their end goal and the absolute mess and fascist state the right is making in America.
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As with the Mundo thing I think these are shitty people saying horrible things. But I think reporting them to the police undermines what was serious legislation and even though the police will politely ignore it, the news report still validates in the public mind all the dumb hot takes people said about getting arrested for saying stupid shit.
Half the cops probably agree with her.
People need to stop phoning the police when people say dumb, offensive but ultimately not illegal things.
This is ridiculous, she is clearly a twat but what a waste of time and money.
Trying to get someone arrested for a crime because they are not a nice person.
A lesson in how to turn this around this narrative into a win for the right wing viewpoint.
That’s a bit over the top. She showed her true colours and will likely face a backlash for that but is what she said enough to warrant police action?
I think this will just fuel the fire and make reform more popular and embolden the racist twats that support them.
I mean showing herself up on national tv to be as big an idiot as people suspected should be punishment enough.
Whoever reported this should get done for wasting police time. It’s a charmless and unpleasant remark, that’s all.
This is ridiculous. I hate reform and what they stand for, but this is silly and undercuts actual efforts at holding reform to account for their racist and bigoted views. I’ve seen the video and I wouldn’t have thought about her use of the phrase “born and bred” until she paused and got flustered.
I do a lot of talking in front of people. Number 1 rule is if you flub you power through because few will notice or care if you don’t call attention to it.
Fuck me for defending reform. I need to clean myself now
>This, it was argued, could be considered a breach of Public Order Act 1986 under offences for “intentionally causing harassment, alarm or distress”.
Although parts of the Public Order Act 1986 do extend to Scotland the provision being referred to there does not as it only extends to England and Wales.
Complete non story.
So people are being reported to police in 20+ page dossiers for using the expression ‘born and bred’?
She said ‘I shouldn’t have said that’ but she’s probably won thousands of reform voters.
For Christ sake. I thought she said something racist or was inciting some kind of violence. More than half the country agrees with her. It’s getting bullshit that we can’t lay claim to where we were born and want a say in who lives here. What’s the point in having a country if the people born and bred here can’t have a say in who can live here?
Yeah and I don’t think we need to wonder who wasted police team by reporting her – a member of the SNP trying to get anything possible on reform , maybe it was squeaky clean Neil Gray perhaps
wow i’d love to form an opinion on this but unfortunately the fucking article won’t let me read it
good on them , Reform is the worst
For saying born and bred?
Her only real crime is a complete lack of media training.
No one would have batted an eye if she didn’t get completely flustered and back track.
Not only is she a racist bint, but she completely bumbled over the fact that there was a “local born and bred” rapist at large. **Not** a migrant.
Honestly I hope she gets investigated in some way. Saying that she was born and bred in Scotland shouldn’t be offensive and if people can potentially face police scrutiny over that comment, it’ll show just how stupid and dangerous these “Hate Crime Laws” can be!
Reporting someone to the police for stating they were born and bred in this country is shameless behavior. No wonder the snitch cowers in anonymity.
There seems to be an infantile culture of reporting politicians to the police just to get headlines that create the impression they have done something criminal, even where it is easily apparent that nothing criminal has gone on. It’s a kind of intimidation tactic and it’s not a useful way to behave.
This Councillor should be ridiculed for her obvious xenophobic and racist views, not least because the way she frame it made it sound like she was speaking for the whole town. However being an idiot isn’t a crime.
Can anyone explain what is supposed to be offensive about “born and bred”?
She committed no crime. Can see more people turning to reform.
There are quite a few Labour MPs who have “Born and Bred” in their Twitter bios. For example, Nadia Whittome Labour MP for Nottingham East . Nottingham Born and Bred. Paulette Hamilton also has this in her bio. Quite a few others as well.
This is so dumb I didn’t even think there was anything wrong she said and i speak as a migrant.
It’s a complete waste of police time. Police need to stop giving these fantasists any attention and take action against them for wasting police time.
The fact that someone took how many hours out of their day to make this report suggests they have way too much time on their hands.
Born and bred is not racist at all….what a complete waste of time, money and effort this is, pathetic complaint.
Not a crime. Its enough she let the mask slip
I am an immigrant, and let me tell you, the thing that annoys me. It’s when someone is being reported to police for executing their freedom of speech. How about let people/voters decide with their votes. That politician has not said anything offensive, or illegal. I really wish that some folks would stop being such cunts. Police should be used for protection from serious crimes and not for such pity shite, like opinions.
As much as I don’t like Reform, this is why they are winning. People feel that open debate is being shut down and that drives them to Reform.
The age of snowflakes is over, the age of a ‘minority’ of some kind reporting something overheard in public to the police in the hope of getting what, an arrest, a successful prosecution, hell even getting police time/personnel allocated…… is very low.
The police have more or less given up. Thouh I do note the zeal they prosecute certain online hate crimes. But that’s just a case of arresting the guy with the twitter account that’s literally in his name and has a selfie.
Everyone is extremely focused on the “born and bred” and conveniently ignores the neo-nazi rally part:
> The complaint also refers to Mackie-Brown’s attendance at an anti-migrant hotel protest .
> We previously revealed how the councillor shared a stage Patriotic Alternative member Richard McFarlane, who told the crowd that white people will be a minority in the UK “by the 2060s” at a rally outside the Cladhan Hotel in Falkirk in August.
> At the start of the rally, a handful of men performed Hitler salutes and one man was seen with a large Black Sun tattoo on the back of his head — an emblem widely used in neo-Nazi circles.
> Another group held a banner reading “Kill ’Em All: Let God Sort Them Out”.
> The complaint said this represented the “the most serious aspect of her misconduct” and added: “Councillor [Mackie] Brown’s silence during and after McFarlane’s speech represents a fundamental failure of leadership and potentially violates multiple code provisions.”
I suppose whoever wrote that article wanted to spin it that way: get everyone outraged at the [“These days, for saying you’re English”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkCBhKs4faI) aspect and completely forget the Hitler salutes, the Black sun tattoo, the threat of mass murder, and the sharing of a stage with [a neo-nazi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriotic_Alternative).
See doing this, it adds to a false narrative of Freedom of Speach being under attack, which on the whole is wrong
We knew what she meant, but the phrase “Born and bred” in my opinion aint racist, xenophobic or the like in most contexts
Ridiculous that she even corrected herself. Born and bread isn’t an offensive thing to say and there’s nothing wrong with being proud to be born and bread somewhere (even Falkirk, which I’m guilty myself of…)
Someone being reported to the police isn’t news. Anyone can report anything they want to the police.
Racists always slip. The interview was brilliant. This woman should not be in politics.
And a Scot should not be like her. Racism does not align with Scottish values.
Making an arse of yourself is not a crime. ’22 page dossier’ jeez
If Reform as an entity and Farage were not simply regurgitating the steps on Trump’s second rise to power taken from the project 2025 platform of lies built around intolerance and fear, as a vehicle to gain power and install a far right government, I wouldn’t be so worried about these little missteps.
Our country is, was and should always be anti fascist, the far right in America is demonising anti fascist ideals as terrorist ideals “antifa” is not an organisation, it was why we fought together in two world wars. Farage is far too close to Trump, the same groups that funded Trump, fund Farage, and they have installed a fascist dictatorship in America, most Britons do not want that in the UK. Brexit was the first step in isolating us from Europe.
Unfortunately they rely on people being too caught up in the culture wars they’ve created to be aware of their end goal and the absolute mess and fascist state the right is making in America.
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