Overengineered. It doesn’t save any space and if you’ve got a heavy-ish bike they don’t work.
No
the amount it would fuck me off when 4 out of 5 of them are broken would probably outweigh the convenience
Rather 2 chairs lad.
I thought bikes were banned on the tube anyway? As for the overground, while this looks cool, you could probably have low tech solutions that do the same job and save more space.
So one bike in a spot that could take maybe 4?
Good luck using that on the Jubilee and Piccadilly
Lots of trains in Europe have dedicated areas to leave bikes without the need for some contraption that’ll be broken by scrotes within weeks
Looks good on social media, but what happens when more than a few people bring their bikes in?
(Not dissing the designer’s ambition, it’s a nice foundation for better solutions in the future)
Looks difficult to operate even on an empty, stationary train. Imagine doing that at Oxford Circus in the rush hour. You’d first have to shove 10 people out of the way to even reach the pole, by which time you’d be halfway to Warren Street & 20 people would be hating you.
Doesn’t appear to increase capacity as everyone has to get out the space the bike takes up while you put it up and down.
Now do that with six people in the way.
If you’ve got a bike couldn’t you just ride that instead of the tube?
I think the extra work involved in getting it upright (hard with a heavy bike) and moving people out of the way when you want to get it down again negates any space saving this system does. I mean, this train is empty, but usually there’d be enough people that it would inconvenience them.
No
They literally have these on national trains like CrossCountry I thought. Like yea its not the fancy sliding version, you have to lift the end of the bike up. But it stores it vertically
They managed to make that look unnecessarily difficult.
No. We already have the technology we need.
Train stations needs proper secure bike storage, and central London stations need integrated Santander cycle stands. There’s no reason for commuter trains to be transporting bikes. Bike transport on trains is much more sense in decentralised places like the west of England or Birmingham. London should focus on different strategies.
You can’t take non finding bikes on the tube and this takes up way too much space for one bike even for a regular train. It’s just not efficient. They have bikes stores on trains now and they hold more than one bike at a time
Looks like a lot of effort for quick commuting
LNER, GWR, TPE and others have vertical bike hangers on their 80x trains and they’re universally hated by cyclists. The solution of a clearly marked and well designed cycle area obviously separate and visually distinct from the wheelchair area is the correct solution. I think Merseyrail’s new trains are perfect for this
The tube? The TUBE?!
Wonder how this would work with my 30kg long reach ebike
6 racks on a train with 10 bikes. It’s a lot of expense for a very small amount of users
‘India railways ‘ keeps popping up on my feed for some reason and this doesn’t look typical.
looks too expensive and cluncky for such a marginal space saving.
and tfl needs far better step free access before trying this. and taller trains.
and id rather get better rail dampeners and ventelation. and cheaper fares.
Why can’t it just be a hook high ish up? Most people can lift the front half of their bike pretty easily, you don’t need to automate it being lifted up
you can’t even have full length mudguards and use it. Its just a gimmick.
Perhaps people can cycle on their bikes instead of taking them on a train ride.
Won’t work. That’s not a good system. Where would you put more bicycles? What happens when the train fills up? And we know it will in India.
Not cost effective for train operators they want more psx number then couple of bikes blocking the way
If you take a bike on the tube, you’re a twat.
While the design is aesthetically pleasing, it’s certainly not practical for a busy commuter environment. Anyone who has used UK trains during rush hour would agree that this approach on trains is, to say the least, highly impractical.
I mean, the amount of space it saved was miniscule, seems like a waste of an investment for such a tiny payoff, plus now there’s handlebars sticking out at head height, seems unsafe as well as impractical.
Maybe in 10 years, in the UK we are so far behind other countries that we once considered developing.
This would last five seconds in London. It would be clogged with refuse or purposely wrecked in no time flat.
It’s always beneficial to look for solutions, but we aren’t looking at one. It is overengineered.
Moving parts require a lot of maintenance, making it more expensive and less reliable. Once it’s broken, it will fall on passenger’s head or cause other injuries, the little U pipes on the floor are a trip hazard.
Not to mention, that it doesn’t seem to solve any problem. It may create an additional slot for a standing passenger, but at what cost? The bike is more secure though, I give it that, but other than that, it looks like a bike enthusiast engineering student’s work.
There are dedicated bike spaces on elizabeth lines and thameslink
Faff
Can’t see it happening, you still need a bit of clearance space around you to put in on and off.
Knowing what rush hour is like, it’s going to be a big struggle for everyone.
First wobble on a busy train and someone will bump against the bike, bending the front wheel at the clamp.
Random crackhead no.3 would break it instantly.
Yeah It looks good but in theory it’s not going to be worth the maintenance
Won’t fit my MTB tyres, and would mean I’d tip the contents of my rack and panniers all over the floor.
Given the space required to use it, it’s not worth the cost. Just stand in the designated cycle area if you are lucky enough to have one
Yes, the space for 1 bike could be used for 5-6 bikes at least with a strap or two, not efficient
If it were treated anything like the priority spaces on the tube and the Elizabeth line (where the flip down seats are), then there’s no chance anyone would ever be able to use the space because people would be standing there and refuse to budge if someone with a bike got on.
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Overengineered. It doesn’t save any space and if you’ve got a heavy-ish bike they don’t work.
No
the amount it would fuck me off when 4 out of 5 of them are broken would probably outweigh the convenience
Rather 2 chairs lad.
I thought bikes were banned on the tube anyway? As for the overground, while this looks cool, you could probably have low tech solutions that do the same job and save more space.
So one bike in a spot that could take maybe 4?
Good luck using that on the Jubilee and Piccadilly
Lots of trains in Europe have dedicated areas to leave bikes without the need for some contraption that’ll be broken by scrotes within weeks
Looks good on social media, but what happens when more than a few people bring their bikes in?
(Not dissing the designer’s ambition, it’s a nice foundation for better solutions in the future)
Looks difficult to operate even on an empty, stationary train. Imagine doing that at Oxford Circus in the rush hour. You’d first have to shove 10 people out of the way to even reach the pole, by which time you’d be halfway to Warren Street & 20 people would be hating you.
Doesn’t appear to increase capacity as everyone has to get out the space the bike takes up while you put it up and down.
Now do that with six people in the way.
If you’ve got a bike couldn’t you just ride that instead of the tube?
I think the extra work involved in getting it upright (hard with a heavy bike) and moving people out of the way when you want to get it down again negates any space saving this system does. I mean, this train is empty, but usually there’d be enough people that it would inconvenience them.
No
They literally have these on national trains like CrossCountry I thought. Like yea its not the fancy sliding version, you have to lift the end of the bike up. But it stores it vertically
They managed to make that look unnecessarily difficult.
No. We already have the technology we need.
Train stations needs proper secure bike storage, and central London stations need integrated Santander cycle stands. There’s no reason for commuter trains to be transporting bikes. Bike transport on trains is much more sense in decentralised places like the west of England or Birmingham. London should focus on different strategies.
You can’t take non finding bikes on the tube and this takes up way too much space for one bike even for a regular train. It’s just not efficient. They have bikes stores on trains now and they hold more than one bike at a time
Looks like a lot of effort for quick commuting
LNER, GWR, TPE and others have vertical bike hangers on their 80x trains and they’re universally hated by cyclists. The solution of a clearly marked and well designed cycle area obviously separate and visually distinct from the wheelchair area is the correct solution. I think Merseyrail’s new trains are perfect for this
The tube? The TUBE?!
Wonder how this would work with my 30kg long reach ebike
6 racks on a train with 10 bikes. It’s a lot of expense for a very small amount of users
‘India railways ‘ keeps popping up on my feed for some reason and this doesn’t look typical.
looks too expensive and cluncky for such a marginal space saving.
and tfl needs far better step free access before trying this. and taller trains.
and id rather get better rail dampeners and ventelation. and cheaper fares.
Why can’t it just be a hook high ish up? Most people can lift the front half of their bike pretty easily, you don’t need to automate it being lifted up
you can’t even have full length mudguards and use it. Its just a gimmick.
Perhaps people can cycle on their bikes instead of taking them on a train ride.
Won’t work. That’s not a good system. Where would you put more bicycles? What happens when the train fills up? And we know it will in India.
Not cost effective for train operators they want more psx number then couple of bikes blocking the way
If you take a bike on the tube, you’re a twat.
While the design is aesthetically pleasing, it’s certainly not practical for a busy commuter environment. Anyone who has used UK trains during rush hour would agree that this approach on trains is, to say the least, highly impractical.
I mean, the amount of space it saved was miniscule, seems like a waste of an investment for such a tiny payoff, plus now there’s handlebars sticking out at head height, seems unsafe as well as impractical.
Maybe in 10 years, in the UK we are so far behind other countries that we once considered developing.
This would last five seconds in London. It would be clogged with refuse or purposely wrecked in no time flat.
It’s always beneficial to look for solutions, but we aren’t looking at one. It is overengineered.
Moving parts require a lot of maintenance, making it more expensive and less reliable. Once it’s broken, it will fall on passenger’s head or cause other injuries, the little U pipes on the floor are a trip hazard.
Not to mention, that it doesn’t seem to solve any problem. It may create an additional slot for a standing passenger, but at what cost? The bike is more secure though, I give it that, but other than that, it looks like a bike enthusiast engineering student’s work.
There are dedicated bike spaces on elizabeth lines and thameslink
Faff
Can’t see it happening, you still need a bit of clearance space around you to put in on and off.
Knowing what rush hour is like, it’s going to be a big struggle for everyone.
First wobble on a busy train and someone will bump against the bike, bending the front wheel at the clamp.
Random crackhead no.3 would break it instantly.
Yeah It looks good but in theory it’s not going to be worth the maintenance
Won’t fit my MTB tyres, and would mean I’d tip the contents of my rack and panniers all over the floor.
Given the space required to use it, it’s not worth the cost. Just stand in the designated cycle area if you are lucky enough to have one
Yes, the space for 1 bike could be used for 5-6 bikes at least with a strap or two, not efficient
If it were treated anything like the priority spaces on the tube and the Elizabeth line (where the flip down seats are), then there’s no chance anyone would ever be able to use the space because people would be standing there and refuse to budge if someone with a bike got on.
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