Germany strips Palestinian of citizenship after he celebrated Hamas

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/germany-strips-palestinian-citizenship-celebrated-161553927.html

44 comments

  4. Good. I want to live in an open society. For an open society to work, we need to fight those who want to destroy this openness.

  6. Rightfully so. Where I live I saw a guy getting arrested by the police for celebrating Hamas a week ago. He was walking down the street yelling in Arabic and wearing the Hamas headband

  8. The plight of innocent Palestinians isn’t necessarily aligned with the motives of Hamas.

    Don’t forget that.

  9. Remember that Hamas executed and paraded a German girl in the streets of Gaza after all and lied to her mother that she was still alive, giving her futile hope.

    Shame on them.

  10. If he loves Hamas so much they should send him to Gaza

  12. Oh, so we totally **can** actually strip citizenship efficiently and swiftly for things we don’t like? See, I’ve been getting gaslit for the past 10 years into believing that stripping ISIS fighters of their citizenship is a difficult and nuanced judicial matter because they’re German citizens and deserve a fair trial, which could take a long time and require lots of legal proceedings.

    I didn’t know it was as simple as posting a picture on Instagram. That apparently gets you a letter in the mail stating your citizenship was revoked, without requiring you to be present for a trial, all in under a month.

    Sheesh golly, that sure is remarkable.

    **EDIT:** Oh heckin’ goodness gracious, enlightened redditors are flocking to my comment to ~~gaslight me~~ edumucate me that le akshually, we totally could strip citizenship but only when they’re dual citizens. Checkmate, rightoid conservaschmucks!!

    Except, that law was passed in 2019 after 6 long years of painful inaction and repeated claims that nothing could be done about these people (and much of the discussion was centered around the question of “do we even *want* to go down that road, they’re *’Germans’* after all!”). By then, more than a third of ISIS fighters had already returned, and could not be prosecuted as the law didn’t apply retroactively. And even then, it wasn’t as simple as getting a letter in the mail informing you that your citizenship was stripped.

    The speed at which the current laws were signed into law and then put into effect is unprecedented. Especially the manner and “efficiency” in which these rulings are handed out.

  13. I’m more curious how he got the citizenship in the first place, considering Germany doesn’t allow double citizenship for non-EU countries. Either way, good call. If he loves Hamas that much he can go join them.

  15. “A day after celebrating the arrival of his German passport, the man, referred to only as Abdallah, uploaded a picture to Instagram showing Hamas fighters with the caption: heroes of Palestine”

    “New questions were also added about Jewish life and Israel’s “right to exist” in the German citizenship test.”

    Yeah, he knew exactly what he was doing and thought he was in the clear after he received his passport. He does not have the values he claimed he had during the citizenship test, amounting to misrepresentation which, I believe is sufficient for revocation of citizenship.

  16. Canada diesnt have the balls to do this. People hrre are prancing around with pro hamas flags, playing the Canadian anthem in Arabic on october 7th in highschools, and jews being violently attacked. Nothing happens to anyone here especially not taking their citizenship.

  17. But did they do the same with israeli who call for all of Palestine to be cleansed ?

  18. Seems sus.

    Three questions are not answered in the article:

    1) Has the citizenship been finalised? (Citizenship and passport are linked, but still two different things.)
    2) Did he give up his previous citizenship, i.e. would stripping him from citizenship make him “Staatenlos”?
    3) Who exactly took away the citizenship and based on what judgement by which court ?

    No-one in Germany can lose his citizenship, once established. There are few exceptions to this rule, which all demand due process. None of these exceptions are relevant, if the individual would be “staatenlos” if he lost his German citizenship.

    The only way – again, there are relevant parts to the story missing – this could have happened (but in a misinterpreted or misinformed way) is when authorities found out he lied in his application and the time had not yet run out to revoke the issuing of his citizenship.

    This, however would be qualitatively different from stripping someone who is German from his citizenship.

  19. This is what should be done. Hopes rest of Europeans countries follow Germany example.

  24. As a German this is most likely false.

    A citizenship can only be revoked in extremely rare circumstances, for example actively participating in terrorism. Celebrating hamas is definitely not acceptable and might have legal consequences, but revoking a finalized citizenship is not one of them. Additionally the source of this article is Bild, a very shady newspaper often publishing misleading headlines and the article referenced can’t be found on bild itself anymore

  26. Good. People that support terrorism should be punished to the full extent of the law.

  30. While this we have streamers glazing hamas live everyday on Twitch and nothing ever happens to them.

  31. Rightfully so. Celebrating jihadist terrorists is fundamentally wrong.

  34. Hamas paraded and murdered a German girl in Gaza. He doesn’t deserve German citizenship if he celebrates terrorists who murder German citizens.

  35. Finally a country that knows what to do with hamas supporters.

  36. Good now do the same thing in the whole EU. Gotta get rid of all those crazy people praising terrorists.

  37. This is a good reason to allow double citizenship. So that one can be revoked if necessary.

  39. Regardless of your stance, people like this do not belong in the West.

    Hamas is evil, and their sympathizers MUST be shunned and barred from the West.

  40. Very good. I hope my country will start doing this too. We’re a peaceful, civilized country that has let hundreds of thousands of people from the Middle East in. We should have the right to expect them to be peaceful and civilized people in return.

  42. Good, he can go back to his hamas now and celebrate together

  43.  If he’s celebrating the terrorists of Hamas then he’s not compatible with democracy.

Comments are closed.