19:46 BST
David Deans
BBC Wales politics reporter
Is immigration a problem in Caerphilly? Llŷr Powell from Reform answers
with a single word? “Yes.” He disputes ONS figures, saying immigration has gone up since they were recorded, but asked if he has his own figures, he does not have any.
“We need to get back to controlling migration,” he says.
Labour’s Tunnicliffe says immigration is being “weaponised”. He says
it is serious but accuses Reform of wanting to “sow division”.
“Controlled
legal migration has benefited. We recognise the very real concerns that are out there.”
Whittle says Plaid would be “proud” to support the Welsh government’s
nation of sanctuary policy, and says Ukrainians are living in “fear” of being
sent back and raises the admission of bribery by Nathan Gill, the previous
Reform UK leader in Wales.
In response, Powell said he found out about the bribery from
the press. He said it was “traitorous” and should face the full weight of the
law.
Aicheler, of the Liberal Democrats, says immigration is not a problem in Caerphilly but
the perception is. Asylum hotels are divisive, he says.
Gareth Hughes, from the Green Party, says Reform are “making people who are coming
to this country fleeing from war the enemy”.