The hope was already dead tbf but cute word play. The 180 Labour pulled on this after getting in to govt with Senedd elections coming up was genuinely baffling, I’d really love to find out why they decided to sack off Wales and any hope of retaining us electorally.
Peter Hendy, UK minister of state for rail, gave evidence to the Senedd’s infrastructure committee today (October 16) – rowing back on his previous position on HS2.
Carolyn Thomas pointed to 2022 comments from Jo Stevens, now the Welsh secretary in the UK cabinet, who said it was illogical to designate HS2 as a Wales and England project and estimated Wales was owed £4.6bn in consequential funding.
The Labour Senedd member also raised Lord Hendy’s 2023 comments that “something is amiss” with the way the Barnett funding formula is applied to HS2.
Lord Hendy replied: “At the time I made my previous comments, I wasn’t a minister in the government – now I am and… the whole way in which the Barnett formula and Barnett consequentials work is about the devolution statement and a matter for wider government.”
– Ooft not a great justification there, previously he wasn’t in government so could come out with all sorts.
Llŷr Gruffydd, who chairs the infrastructure committee, asked: “Do you understand people’s frustrations in Wales that they feel that there’s an injustice here? Because, obviously, they see consequential money going to other parts of the UK.”
Mr Gruffydd contrasted the £445m commitment with funding provided to regions of England which “firmly tells us we’re pretty much bottom of the table”.
Lord Hendy recognised frustrations but said: **“Until recently, Wales got virtually no railway enhancement spending, now it is – so, I think that’s a significant improvement.”**
And to end things- you were getting little to nothing before so be grateful for crumbs 1/10th the size of what we argued you should receive.
What a shocker. 😒.
Yeah, Westminster treating Wales with contempt yet again. Doesn’t matter what colour tie they wear, Wales, with a population less than Yorkshire, is never ever going to get fair funding (Barnett formula my arse). Tory’s hate us because we don’t vote Tory. Labour treat us with disregard because we always vote Labour. Reform will say any damn thing to get elected; then will break every promise, wring the cash out of Wales, stuff it into their offshore accounts and sail off to the Caiman Islands like the rest of the millionaire crooks. Wales isn’t even an afterthought in Westminster and hasn’t been since Thatcher.
England’s oldest colony, again being treated like dirt
You already get £2000 more per person than England. Stop acting like the victim
It’s crazy how for YEARS Drakeford was demanding the HS2 money from the Tories and as soon as Labour got into Westminster nobody remembers our owed HS2 money except Plaid and, ironically, the Tories. What a clown show.
If Starmer really wanted to win the Senedd election next year, he’d just give us what we are owed.
It appears you can’t handle facts
Labour clearly does not want to be re-elected in upcoming elections. They’ve had the taste of power again and realised it’s too much work.
How do we swallow the fact that we’re the least equal member in this Union? Treated less as a member, more as dirt. Where does our faith and trust in the Union go from here? Are we expected to just be complacent and happy with less than nothing?
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The hope was already dead tbf but cute word play. The 180 Labour pulled on this after getting in to govt with Senedd elections coming up was genuinely baffling, I’d really love to find out why they decided to sack off Wales and any hope of retaining us electorally.
Peter Hendy, UK minister of state for rail, gave evidence to the Senedd’s infrastructure committee today (October 16) – rowing back on his previous position on HS2.
Carolyn Thomas pointed to 2022 comments from Jo Stevens, now the Welsh secretary in the UK cabinet, who said it was illogical to designate HS2 as a Wales and England project and estimated Wales was owed £4.6bn in consequential funding.
The Labour Senedd member also raised Lord Hendy’s 2023 comments that “something is amiss” with the way the Barnett funding formula is applied to HS2.
Lord Hendy replied: “At the time I made my previous comments, I wasn’t a minister in the government – now I am and… the whole way in which the Barnett formula and Barnett consequentials work is about the devolution statement and a matter for wider government.”
– Ooft not a great justification there, previously he wasn’t in government so could come out with all sorts.
Llŷr Gruffydd, who chairs the infrastructure committee, asked: “Do you understand people’s frustrations in Wales that they feel that there’s an injustice here? Because, obviously, they see consequential money going to other parts of the UK.”
Mr Gruffydd contrasted the £445m commitment with funding provided to regions of England which “firmly tells us we’re pretty much bottom of the table”.
Lord Hendy recognised frustrations but said: **“Until recently, Wales got virtually no railway enhancement spending, now it is – so, I think that’s a significant improvement.”**
And to end things- you were getting little to nothing before so be grateful for crumbs 1/10th the size of what we argued you should receive.
What a shocker. 😒.
Yeah, Westminster treating Wales with contempt yet again. Doesn’t matter what colour tie they wear, Wales, with a population less than Yorkshire, is never ever going to get fair funding (Barnett formula my arse). Tory’s hate us because we don’t vote Tory. Labour treat us with disregard because we always vote Labour. Reform will say any damn thing to get elected; then will break every promise, wring the cash out of Wales, stuff it into their offshore accounts and sail off to the Caiman Islands like the rest of the millionaire crooks. Wales isn’t even an afterthought in Westminster and hasn’t been since Thatcher.
England’s oldest colony, again being treated like dirt
You already get £2000 more per person than England. Stop acting like the victim
It’s crazy how for YEARS Drakeford was demanding the HS2 money from the Tories and as soon as Labour got into Westminster nobody remembers our owed HS2 money except Plaid and, ironically, the Tories. What a clown show.
If Starmer really wanted to win the Senedd election next year, he’d just give us what we are owed.
It appears you can’t handle facts
Labour clearly does not want to be re-elected in upcoming elections. They’ve had the taste of power again and realised it’s too much work.
How do we swallow the fact that we’re the least equal member in this Union? Treated less as a member, more as dirt. Where does our faith and trust in the Union go from here? Are we expected to just be complacent and happy with less than nothing?
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