Borders chief can’t name a way Brexit has helped UK control its borders

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1. Has Brexit produced any tangible benefits? No.

   Has Brexit made anything cheaper or less complicated? No.

   Are we going to reverse it instead of sleepwalking into oblivion? Also no.

2. Its the role of the Government to control access to the country something that it has spectacularly failed to do. Both the Tories and Labour have done next to nothing to get a grip of the issue I am not sure whether being in or out has any real bearing on the situation.

3. Of course he can’t, because it hasn’t. At least you can tell he’s not a Reform voter, because he didn’t lie about it.

4. Thing with the vast majority of the lot that voted Leave is they just can’t admit their closet xenophobic/racist side and certainly wouldn’t own up to being just a bit…thick.

   Ya see it all the time on this r/, for example.

5. It has introduced border control with Europe. This means that it has stopped people being able to board flights with a stolen EU ID card (as opposed to the easier to spot genuine passport). It has also stopped those living here illegally using EU ID cards (as proof of right to work, right to rent, access to benefits etc.)

   It has also made it more difficult for people to sponsor sham marriages under EEA rules. This was incredibly common with Eastern European women sponsoring student overstayers. They now have to apply under Appendix FM which has more requirements.

   However, the EUSS route was incredibly generous and it allowed people to sponsor family members they never would have otherwise.

   Unfortunately, we closed a window and opened 3 doors for absolutely no good reason at all, other than Boris being totally clueless about how many people would apply under the loosened visa routes.

6. Because it hasn’t. All it’s created is red tape and limited our cooperation with our French counterparts.

7. Brexit is like a great unlocked iron gate that has had it’s hinges removed by order of The Government. It will never work so long as our own Government does not want it to work.

8. I can name a way! I have the full list of Brexit benefits here:

   * Ability to set our own data categories for import/export movements, which allows us to better monitor the movement of gold. International movmenet of gold is an incredibly effective means of money laundering, but the EU system allowed it to be recorded under multiple relatively broad categories (e.g. unfinished jewellery, precious metals, industrial metals) so it was a nightmare to detect and track.

   …and that’s the end of the list.

9. Borders chief is a Labour person? Well of course he can’t because he doesn’t support it

   Brexit installed an extra system which requires T1 clearance for goods in and out of the channel. This is a documented paper trail and checks should have been heightened to prevent illegals on the back of Lorries

   Now what Brexit should have provided isn’t the same as what the government have chosen to implement. I don’t even believe Boris was a leaver but instead jumped on the bandwagon to become PM which is the ultimate goal of every London mayor

   The leaver was Jeremy Corbyn as a matter of fact but he had no choice but to tease the remainers to vote for him. Because Boris played the leaver card so well.

   There should be more checks and more prevention of people coming here without proper paperwork or illegally… but I suspect as border chief, the truth is he’s not doing his job properly

   Blaming Brexit is easy way for a person who blames everyone else for his own failure at his job, much like most of the Labour government

   He should be sacked. Since he’s failed to secure the border.. Brexit has nothing to do with it. Brexit should have equated to a hard border stopping all illegal migration but that clearly isn’t something he implemented. He just don’t like Brexit so it’s Brexits fault

   Two words and the second is off

10. Surely sovereignty is like a magic force field …. no?

11. If he’s the chief and he can’t even play devils advocate and name some benefits then should he be in that role

12. Tbe government refused to do what people voted for, and is now trying to say that what people voted for isn’t working. Perhaps they could actually try, first?

13. Deliberately opening our borders after Brexit then trying to blame Brexit is malicious compliance at its finest, and only the most resonant of echo chambers could possibly delude themselves into thinking the UK electorate at large will buy it.

14. Oh look it’s the Independent with another “Brexit bad” article.

    The question was about illegal immigration and that was never really a focus of leaving the EU anyway. We saw in 2015 that movement of illegal migrants between EU member states is easy, so the implicit idea that it would be better if we were in the EU today is very questionable. Someone will doubtless say “Dublin regulations”, but in reality, only a tiny number of people were ever removed from the UK by that mechanism when it was available to us.

    And *immigration* (as opposed to border control) is worse than before, but that’s not because we don’t have better control, it’s because the Conservative government of ’19-’24 chose to betray its manifesto promises and open the taps.

15. But I thought Mogg had a whole list of good things?

16. “The ability to make laws around them free from the rules an external organisation”

    See, not difficult at all

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