100 to 150 Gripen to Ukraine.

https://omni.se/zelenskyj-landar-i-sverige-diskuterar-stor-export/a/Gyzrpx

by Flirre-Flipp

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  3. This is good news, but what it means that they have declared their intent to BUY those from Sweden in the future. It doesn’t say anything about immediate deliveries. As a Swedish tax payer i would rather see that they were handed over yesterday…

  5. >“Today’s declaration of intent does not aim for any new donations. Instead, it is about long-term cooperation on air defense and the possibilities for a very large defense industrial deal,”

    So the Gripens will be a big part of Ukraine’s postwar air force. Not something that will arrive right now.

    That is not too surprising. Reddit’s fondest wishes notwithstanding, it is impossible to simply handwave the deployment of vast amounts of new equipment. Ukraine is still trying to get pilots into the seats of all the F-16s that are available to it around the world. That problem won’t magically disappear with a different airframe. (In fact it might get worse.)

    Unless there are a body of veteran pilots ready to volunteer… Zelensky made it legal for Ukraine to recruit foreign pilots into its air force a year ago, but there hasn’t been much information since then on how well that’s gone. Would Swedish Gripen pilots turn out?

  6. What happened to the previous *”letter of intent”* regarding the procurement of [1000 CV9040 IFVs](https://share.google/CRtL4oBhLRQ6Qc2xG) or the factories that would be capable of producing [400 MBTs annually?](https://share.google/SfLpNNzV8w7hsOXFj) :)))

    When will people learn that most of these unrealistic claims are 80% of the time straight up lies and the remaining 20% are plans *after* the conflict ends/returns to a low intensity phase?

  7. Love it. For sure undertakings of this scale, you gotta line up the buyers before the first rivet is sunk. I hate that it *feels* so slow and incremental, but it represents a fundamental shift in Europe’s geopolitical dynamic that will endure for at least a generation.

  14. Cool your tits, people. Ukraine won’t see the first of these planes for at least a year- assuming everything goes perfectly- and the total order amounts to between 35-50% of *total Gripen production.* As another poster points out, this is equivalent to ten years’ production or more at current rates, and those rates won’t change unless Saab not only changes it’s apprently rock-solid commitment to doing everything as slowly as possible but builds a couple more assembly lines to do it with. Additional to which, the Gripen-E is more expensive than the *F-35.* This is a very serious case for “I’ll believe it when I see it.”

  15. *A hundred to a hundred and fifty*?

    To put this into perspective, there have been ~300 Grippens made so far. There have also been like 300 of the French Rafael built.

    This deal is so epically huge that it will likely have a noticeable and lasting effect on the world fighter market. The US may well try and block it by refusing to supply engines, but that basically just dictates that the Grippen will get re-engineered with the EJ200 or similar to replace the US powerplant.

  16. Meet with Trump get a promise of tomahawks that turn into a demand to give up territory to stop the war. Meet with Sweden, get 150 fighter jets.

    Meet with Sweden.

  18. Sounds like they already have pilots training on the Gripen, and they will start to get deliveries next year.

    Gripen has less airfield needs, and I am sure Saab will be all over it to do whatever they can to support it because Ukraine is the biggest defense trade show in world history.

  20. Gripen will finally get to do what it was designed for: spanking Russians.

  21. Countries that are still on the edge about the F35 should take note.

  22. > – Ukraine wants to buy 100 to 150 Jas Gripen E – the newest and most advanced version of the aircraft. A letter of intent between the countries has been signed, Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson said during a press conference.

    > – Today’s letter of intent does not aim for any new donations. Instead, it is about long-term cooperation on air defense and the possibilities for a very large defense industrial deal, he says.

    With the destruction of American competence, Sweden is really stepping up. This is major.

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