Finally, so refreshing to see, the white means “Peace”
Not racism, not hate, it means peace
*(I know there meaning of Green and Orange is slightly off but thats ok)*
It specifically refers to Catholics and Protestants.
We absolutely do not want to find ourselves in a scenario where flying our flag becomes read as an act of antagonism or intolerance. There’s enough of that poison without it infecting a symbol fundamentally designed as a peaceful, inclusive act.
Soldier F was found not guilty just a few days ago. This shite rings hollow
Nice sentiment but that’s not actually what it means.
I like to see this. I hate that our flag is now being used as a signal to people for believing hateful xenophobia. I saw a flag put up recently in my local post office behind the desk, they never cared enough to have the flag before, that is not patriotism.
Jesus Christ can we stop making up shite about what the flag means.
Yeah, I’m totally behind this.
Pedantically saying “what it ACTUALLY means is peace between green and orange” is shite. It’s a symbol of peace and unity. The spirit of it is very clear.
(pasted from a reply on the original post )
“The white in the centre signified a lasting truce between orange and green. I trust that beneath its folds the hands of the Irish Catholic and the Irish Protestant may be clasped in generous and heroic brotherhood.”
Thomas F. Meagher, 13th April 1848
It means peace between Catholics and Prods, yes i am aware that other faiths were not included in that quote, but, that was written just after the famine when we were essentially a monocultural country
Do we really expect him to have foresaw that in hundreds of years after his death we would be a 28% non Christian country
Our flag was designed by meagher to symbolise peace between the main relgious groups of his day, and i think its within our right to extend that peace to other relgious and racial groups present in 2025 Ireland.
So yes, that sticker is dead right and i wont accept far right racist gobshites tarnishing our nations flag
Displayed first by Thomas Francis Meagher.
Yes, it was supposed to show the unity in Catholic and Protestant, but Thomas Francis Meagher has his bonafides as a slayer of slavers.
Also, in Ireland’s oldest traditions, the Irish aren’t the first on the island by a long stretch. Formorians, Cessairians, Nemedians, Fir Bolg, Tuatha Dé Danann, and only then the Milesians.
And in real history, nobody thinks any more of tearing away people of Scottish, Norse, or Norman descent from the Irish body politic.
Every single group became enthusiastically Irish until the plantations and the famine. Hell, where Meagher went late in his life became enthusiastic Irish first.
The lesson we should learn isn’t “let’s emulate the plantations” or that the social conditions the famine created should be replicated. Ireland should be the strong cultural powerhouse it always was, drawing all in to make something better. As it always has been.
The sectarian abuse Humphrey’s got shows that’s really not the truth, is it?
This is what gas lighting looks like.
The first sentence is correct. The second incorrect. It doesnt ‘…..it means’. The flag is what it is, representing where it came from. It no more means (for example) Muslims out/unwelcome than it means Muslims in/welcome. Applying meaning to a piece of cloth is getting no-one anywhere. Having said that, maybe it is better than the two sides use the flag as a point of argument, as its ambigious, than some other less ambigious symbol. One side would not do well with the undecided middle ground, majority population, using a banner than read ‘close-borders’, while the other side would not do well with ‘open-borders’. Maybe an ambigious symbol suits both sides?
We have to shut up and accept unlimited numbers of fake asylum seekers because the flag says so, got it
Wish the anti-racists would wave the flag more because it’s literally designed to be inclusive. It’ll certainly help to remove its association with these xenophobic shitheads
We believe in uniting all people under the Irish banner.
Not dividing.
With the election of Catherine Connolly, I think she will do this, too
Why is it so hard to except that some religious faiths don’t fit with the society we want. Many Irish people worked hard to remove religion from our governments and institutions. Enabling women’s liberation and freedom of sexual expression.
I don’t know why we’d be ok with admitting people to our country who don’t share those beliefs.
I don’t want to share a society with people who don’t respect the rights and freedoms of others. Whether they immigrated here or they’re born here. Regardless of skin colour.
I don’t want to be hard on bad chatolthic ideologies, just to be soft on other religious terrible behaviors.
That’s not what it means at all. It means harmony between Protestantism and Catholicism.
Sure if Muslims want to live here fine, come over here legally and assimilate to the culture.
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More of this please!
Finally, so refreshing to see, the white means “Peace”
Not racism, not hate, it means peace
*(I know there meaning of Green and Orange is slightly off but thats ok)*
It specifically refers to Catholics and Protestants.
We absolutely do not want to find ourselves in a scenario where flying our flag becomes read as an act of antagonism or intolerance. There’s enough of that poison without it infecting a symbol fundamentally designed as a peaceful, inclusive act.
Soldier F was found not guilty just a few days ago. This shite rings hollow
Nice sentiment but that’s not actually what it means.
I like to see this. I hate that our flag is now being used as a signal to people for believing hateful xenophobia. I saw a flag put up recently in my local post office behind the desk, they never cared enough to have the flag before, that is not patriotism.
Jesus Christ can we stop making up shite about what the flag means.
Yeah, I’m totally behind this.
Pedantically saying “what it ACTUALLY means is peace between green and orange” is shite. It’s a symbol of peace and unity. The spirit of it is very clear.
(pasted from a reply on the original post )
“The white in the centre signified a lasting truce between orange and green. I trust that beneath its folds the hands of the Irish Catholic and the Irish Protestant may be clasped in generous and heroic brotherhood.”
Thomas F. Meagher, 13th April 1848
It means peace between Catholics and Prods, yes i am aware that other faiths were not included in that quote, but, that was written just after the famine when we were essentially a monocultural country
Do we really expect him to have foresaw that in hundreds of years after his death we would be a 28% non Christian country
Our flag was designed by meagher to symbolise peace between the main relgious groups of his day, and i think its within our right to extend that peace to other relgious and racial groups present in 2025 Ireland.
So yes, that sticker is dead right and i wont accept far right racist gobshites tarnishing our nations flag
Displayed first by Thomas Francis Meagher.
Yes, it was supposed to show the unity in Catholic and Protestant, but Thomas Francis Meagher has his bonafides as a slayer of slavers.
Also, in Ireland’s oldest traditions, the Irish aren’t the first on the island by a long stretch. Formorians, Cessairians, Nemedians, Fir Bolg, Tuatha Dé Danann, and only then the Milesians.
And in real history, nobody thinks any more of tearing away people of Scottish, Norse, or Norman descent from the Irish body politic.
Every single group became enthusiastically Irish until the plantations and the famine. Hell, where Meagher went late in his life became enthusiastic Irish first.
The lesson we should learn isn’t “let’s emulate the plantations” or that the social conditions the famine created should be replicated. Ireland should be the strong cultural powerhouse it always was, drawing all in to make something better. As it always has been.
The sectarian abuse Humphrey’s got shows that’s really not the truth, is it?
This is what gas lighting looks like.
The first sentence is correct. The second incorrect. It doesnt ‘…..it means’. The flag is what it is, representing where it came from. It no more means (for example) Muslims out/unwelcome than it means Muslims in/welcome. Applying meaning to a piece of cloth is getting no-one anywhere. Having said that, maybe it is better than the two sides use the flag as a point of argument, as its ambigious, than some other less ambigious symbol. One side would not do well with the undecided middle ground, majority population, using a banner than read ‘close-borders’, while the other side would not do well with ‘open-borders’. Maybe an ambigious symbol suits both sides?
We have to shut up and accept unlimited numbers of fake asylum seekers because the flag says so, got it
Wish the anti-racists would wave the flag more because it’s literally designed to be inclusive. It’ll certainly help to remove its association with these xenophobic shitheads
We believe in uniting all people under the Irish banner.
Not dividing.
With the election of Catherine Connolly, I think she will do this, too
Why is it so hard to except that some religious faiths don’t fit with the society we want. Many Irish people worked hard to remove religion from our governments and institutions. Enabling women’s liberation and freedom of sexual expression.
I don’t know why we’d be ok with admitting people to our country who don’t share those beliefs.
I don’t want to share a society with people who don’t respect the rights and freedoms of others. Whether they immigrated here or they’re born here. Regardless of skin colour.
I don’t want to be hard on bad chatolthic ideologies, just to be soft on other religious terrible behaviors.
That’s not what it means at all. It means harmony between Protestantism and Catholicism.
Sure if Muslims want to live here fine, come over here legally and assimilate to the culture.
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