I think they’re overselling their importance, Starmer rarely thinks of Scotland.
Starmer will undoubtedly quit next year if things go badly in Wales and Scotland but it probably won’t be for either, it will be because things also go badly in England’s local elections.
I’d go as far as to say Labour could stage some miraculous recovery in Wales and Scotland but a heavy loss in England’s locals would overshadow both of those things. Of course that won’t happen but still, Labour can and will just ignore inconvenient results in Scotland since they have been doing this since 2007. The branch offices don’t really mind much either, they’re all pretty sorted and don’t have to be too successful thanks to not being real parties.
If this is true, which I very much doubt, wouldn’t it just encourage Labour voters to vote SNP?
Can we go back to the news being about things that have happened rather than nonsense speculation about what might happen based on some unnamed persons fantasy expectations?
That all the branch office has left? threatening us with a good time?
Ed Milliband said if we didn’t vote Labour we wouldn’t get a nuclear power plant, we have 100% renewable and the most expensive domestic energy at the same time, Unionist parties still taking us for absolute morons.
To be clear, i’m not against nuclear power, its the offer being conditional to London Labour’s man in Holyrood being made First Minister that i am commenting on.
Better reason to vote SNP than anything they could put in their own manifesto.
If they think suggesting this will rouse Labour voters, then they are really out of touch with public opinion.
This sounds like an SNP story to get everyone who hates kier Starmer to vote for them.
We’re also suppose to believe both competing narratives, that Scottish Labour is a branch office, that Labour care neither about Scotland or its population AND it’s a election of such ground breaking importance to the Labour Party that the prime minister of the U.K. will resign over it.
Smells a little funky that. Especially when either the polls are WAY out or Labour is going to take a kicking. 🤷🏼♂️
Nah this is false. Makes no sense.
I might have to vote SNP now. I was going to vote the same way as I did in the Westminster election last year but this could change my mind.
>believe
They also believe Labour in Scotland can do what it wants till daddy WM brings the cain out of the cupboard.
Losing Wales would be more of a failure for him but I dont see why he’d quit if he lost either election as long as the WM MPs backed him.
Don’t threaten us with a good time.
Doubtful he would ‘quit’ unless he was forced to, if the day after the loss they come out and say they support and back him still it’ll be game over for sure. The phrase is just the kiss of death really.
Starmer is on the ropes. Every day brings him a new disaster. He’s dying a death by a thousand cuts. Presiding over an omnishambles I think he’s going pretty soon anyway.
I don’t see why a Prime Minister would resign over a Scottish parliament vote, surely it’d be Sarwar that’d take the brunt?
Scottish Labour figures delusional about how much Starmer thinks about Scotland, or Wales for that matter. Starmers response to a total wipeout next year would be “This shows how much work we have to do, and we are getting on with it.”
Lmfao no he wont quit, maybe gets forced out down the road but yeah no.
This seems like a group in labour that wants to hurt Keir as much as possible to force him out
Scotland has been SNP for over a decade now, why would this prompt a quit?
Starmer is going down and taking the Labour Party with him, just as Morgan McSweeny planned. I expect that snake to turn up in another right wing think tank advising the next right wing government.
As if Scotland is anything other than an afterthought to Starmer
So sounds like…..
Vote (Scottish) Labour or nice Sir Keir will stand down and the Westminster Government will collapse and the right horrible Mr Farage will get in and it’ll all be the fault of you (‘orrible) Scotch.
Or something like that 😂
SNP landslide
> Another senior Labour politician criticised the party’s Scottish MPs for speaking out on devolved issues:
> “Scottish Labour MPs need shut the f*** up. All that does is remind voters of Starmer and Westminster.”
Many of us have been saying this for a while. It’s an awful look for Scottish Labour to be engaging in Tory-esque tactics like this. But I’d add that it’s not just Scottish Labour MPs (although they are especially “animated” about the SNP, e.g., Joani Reid). The Prime Minister and his Westminster stand-ins regularly reply to any SNP question or Scottish Labour comment by taking a swipe at what the devolved Scottish Government is/isn’t doing.
Personally I cannot see Starmer standing down because of the Scottish election results but he likely would (should?) were Labour to lose heavily in Wales
Plus point for SNP
Why on Earth would he do that? Bullshit headline.
Scottish Labour doing some light campaigning for the SNP here
Why would he quit over something that’s inevitable. Voting SNP in Scotland is the new voting Labour.
This isn’t the call to arms they think it is. Labour have been horrible and are about to hand the UK to reform. What a waste of a party Labour are now
Just setting up the excuse of “the SNP gave us Farage” because “the SNP gave us Thatcher” is starting to wear thin.
Quit? He’s getting punted by the party in May regardless I reckon.
lol, not a chance
Haha. The Unionists are shiteing themselves already. What a mare of a few days they are having.
Not likely. He’s not going to just give up the PM job.
Starmer will not quit as that would be good leadership and a smart decision.
He, or McSweeney will advise him, to stay on and suffer single digit approval ratings.
Starmer will lurch ever rightwards because he somehow is chasing the Labour lost reform voter which basically doesn’t exist.
“Senior Scottish Figures…”. My arse.
As if anything that happens north of the border is going to force the resignation of the UK Prime Minister.
A headline that would have been worthy of The National.
I expect his resignation the day after the election then.
I mean whatever happens, this is entirely on Labour and Keir should own the absolute social destruction he caused the country in the span of a year
Cool, even more incentive..
insha’Allah
Either delusional or just straight up talking out of their arse. Starmer has a ridiculous mandate, a reform wave might do it but SNP MSPs are not that important to the national government.
What a pile of crap
This could almost get me to vote SNP. Sadly, Starmer is such a slimy character that I couldnt trust him even to resign when he should.
Oh no, how terrible that would be.
That said if the SNP does manage to mop up a lot of the Labour vote, it wouldn’t look good for Reform. So maybe some method in the madness to this being stated by Labour ‘figures’..
I highly doubt he will quit but I can see maybe in the next 18 months someone might challenge his leadership or he might step down
>Scottish Labour figures believe Keir Starmer will quit if SNP wins Holyrood election
Promise?
I mean the SNP have been winning at Holyrood for almost 20 years
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I think they’re overselling their importance, Starmer rarely thinks of Scotland.
Starmer will undoubtedly quit next year if things go badly in Wales and Scotland but it probably won’t be for either, it will be because things also go badly in England’s local elections.
I’d go as far as to say Labour could stage some miraculous recovery in Wales and Scotland but a heavy loss in England’s locals would overshadow both of those things. Of course that won’t happen but still, Labour can and will just ignore inconvenient results in Scotland since they have been doing this since 2007. The branch offices don’t really mind much either, they’re all pretty sorted and don’t have to be too successful thanks to not being real parties.
If this is true, which I very much doubt, wouldn’t it just encourage Labour voters to vote SNP?
Can we go back to the news being about things that have happened rather than nonsense speculation about what might happen based on some unnamed persons fantasy expectations?
That all the branch office has left? threatening us with a good time?
Ed Milliband said if we didn’t vote Labour we wouldn’t get a nuclear power plant, we have 100% renewable and the most expensive domestic energy at the same time, Unionist parties still taking us for absolute morons.
To be clear, i’m not against nuclear power, its the offer being conditional to London Labour’s man in Holyrood being made First Minister that i am commenting on.
Better reason to vote SNP than anything they could put in their own manifesto.
If they think suggesting this will rouse Labour voters, then they are really out of touch with public opinion.
This sounds like an SNP story to get everyone who hates kier Starmer to vote for them.
We’re also suppose to believe both competing narratives, that Scottish Labour is a branch office, that Labour care neither about Scotland or its population AND it’s a election of such ground breaking importance to the Labour Party that the prime minister of the U.K. will resign over it.
Smells a little funky that. Especially when either the polls are WAY out or Labour is going to take a kicking. 🤷🏼♂️
Nah this is false. Makes no sense.
I might have to vote SNP now. I was going to vote the same way as I did in the Westminster election last year but this could change my mind.
>believe
They also believe Labour in Scotland can do what it wants till daddy WM brings the cain out of the cupboard.
Losing Wales would be more of a failure for him but I dont see why he’d quit if he lost either election as long as the WM MPs backed him.
Don’t threaten us with a good time.
Doubtful he would ‘quit’ unless he was forced to, if the day after the loss they come out and say they support and back him still it’ll be game over for sure. The phrase is just the kiss of death really.
Starmer is on the ropes. Every day brings him a new disaster. He’s dying a death by a thousand cuts. Presiding over an omnishambles I think he’s going pretty soon anyway.
I don’t see why a Prime Minister would resign over a Scottish parliament vote, surely it’d be Sarwar that’d take the brunt?
Scottish Labour figures delusional about how much Starmer thinks about Scotland, or Wales for that matter. Starmers response to a total wipeout next year would be “This shows how much work we have to do, and we are getting on with it.”
Lmfao no he wont quit, maybe gets forced out down the road but yeah no.
This seems like a group in labour that wants to hurt Keir as much as possible to force him out
Scotland has been SNP for over a decade now, why would this prompt a quit?
Starmer is going down and taking the Labour Party with him, just as Morgan McSweeny planned. I expect that snake to turn up in another right wing think tank advising the next right wing government.
As if Scotland is anything other than an afterthought to Starmer
So sounds like…..
Vote (Scottish) Labour or nice Sir Keir will stand down and the Westminster Government will collapse and the right horrible Mr Farage will get in and it’ll all be the fault of you (‘orrible) Scotch.
Or something like that 😂
SNP landslide
> Another senior Labour politician criticised the party’s Scottish MPs for speaking out on devolved issues:
> “Scottish Labour MPs need shut the f*** up. All that does is remind voters of Starmer and Westminster.”
Many of us have been saying this for a while. It’s an awful look for Scottish Labour to be engaging in Tory-esque tactics like this. But I’d add that it’s not just Scottish Labour MPs (although they are especially “animated” about the SNP, e.g., Joani Reid). The Prime Minister and his Westminster stand-ins regularly reply to any SNP question or Scottish Labour comment by taking a swipe at what the devolved Scottish Government is/isn’t doing.
Personally I cannot see Starmer standing down because of the Scottish election results but he likely would (should?) were Labour to lose heavily in Wales
Plus point for SNP
Why on Earth would he do that? Bullshit headline.
Scottish Labour doing some light campaigning for the SNP here
Why would he quit over something that’s inevitable. Voting SNP in Scotland is the new voting Labour.
This isn’t the call to arms they think it is. Labour have been horrible and are about to hand the UK to reform. What a waste of a party Labour are now
Just setting up the excuse of “the SNP gave us Farage” because “the SNP gave us Thatcher” is starting to wear thin.
Quit? He’s getting punted by the party in May regardless I reckon.
lol, not a chance
Haha. The Unionists are shiteing themselves already. What a mare of a few days they are having.
Not likely. He’s not going to just give up the PM job.
Starmer will not quit as that would be good leadership and a smart decision.
He, or McSweeney will advise him, to stay on and suffer single digit approval ratings.
Starmer will lurch ever rightwards because he somehow is chasing the Labour lost reform voter which basically doesn’t exist.
“Senior Scottish Figures…”. My arse.
As if anything that happens north of the border is going to force the resignation of the UK Prime Minister.
A headline that would have been worthy of The National.
I expect his resignation the day after the election then.
I mean whatever happens, this is entirely on Labour and Keir should own the absolute social destruction he caused the country in the span of a year
Cool, even more incentive..
insha’Allah
Either delusional or just straight up talking out of their arse. Starmer has a ridiculous mandate, a reform wave might do it but SNP MSPs are not that important to the national government.
What a pile of crap
This could almost get me to vote SNP. Sadly, Starmer is such a slimy character that I couldnt trust him even to resign when he should.
Oh no, how terrible that would be.
That said if the SNP does manage to mop up a lot of the Labour vote, it wouldn’t look good for Reform. So maybe some method in the madness to this being stated by Labour ‘figures’..
I highly doubt he will quit but I can see maybe in the next 18 months someone might challenge his leadership or he might step down
>Scottish Labour figures believe Keir Starmer will quit if SNP wins Holyrood election
Promise?
I mean the SNP have been winning at Holyrood for almost 20 years
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