Hes probably going to use their application as a bargaining chip to demand f35s or some other shit
As expected, Turkey is not so positive towards Swedens NATO membership. Sweden has been openly supporting or tolerating the PKK in Sweden for years, so this was expected.
Not so sure about Finland though.
i am just saying but we are probably gonna accept Finland but Sweden wont gonna happen
Aw come on. What the hell does he want now?
Got it. Calling CIA to fix this situation…
Turkey and Hungary are always the two problematic children of NATO 🤦♂️
Sweden is understandable (Swedish support for PKK) but Turkey has absolutely no reason to block Finland.
I think this is just Erdoğan saying “I want some bribes first” that’s all.
If Nato wants to play ball, they can call Turkey’s membership into question. It is supposed to be an alliance of democracies after all. Does Turkey qualify?
Can’t understand why they would object, they are part of NATO but they would deny another country the same protection!
I hate this fucker so much. There is not a single reasonable argument against finland and sweden joining NATO.
Do other NATO countries recognize PKK as terrorists? I don’t think so, so Erdogan can just fuck off
Finland is fine but I also have questions about Sweden 🙂
I am not an Erdo fan but I’ll just grab my popcorn and enjoy watching Sweden (and possibly others) try to convince and make some compromises (possibly he just wants some bribe or nominal victories to save face) for entertainment lol.
Well, not Finland but sweeden can fight Russia with pkk, they don’t need nato
Good. First time i support a statment from erdo.
>Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said on Friday it was not possible for NATO-member Turkey to view positively plans by Sweden and Finland to join the pact, saying the two countries were “home to many terrorist organisations”.
Idk about Finland but for Sweden this is half true. We have many terrorist sympathizers who like many other “refugees” should’ve never been allowed to enter Sweden.
right, well, he can get fucked
So what’s new here? Just Turkey being Turkey
Also, he critisizes past NATO administrations for letting Greece in the alliance.
Wow, I never thought that I would hear something positive from this guy. Even if my country’s politicians are making foolish decisions, at least someone will try to stop them.
Let’s kick Turkey out then
karma is a bitch
yeah an alliance should serve all its members, thats shocking news for some people. some far away countries should cut their hostilities with turkey they entertain for cheap publicity gains and support the other members of the alliance.
Just last year Sweden gave YPG Syrian offshoot wing of PKK $350 million in aid. That attitude would be the same as Turkey donating $350 million to IRA during U.K. insurgency days or ISIS during the times when they were attacking neighbouring countries and Europe. These terrorists have killed over 40,000 of our citizens in the past 40 years.
So you can probably guess why Turkey doesn’t want Sweden in NATO.
I am sure the world would be happy to exchange Turkey with Finland and Sweden.
It’s a negotiation tactic to influence Swedish policy. Notice “not positive” rather than “we will block it”.
I doubt he will veto though.
Yawn.
Us and UK support Swedish and Finnish ascension. NATO is not the EU where a grain of sand can close the entire beach.
They will either throw them some useless appeasement(keep dreaming about the f-35s tho lmao) or just lean on them a little and they will fold as usual.
Turkey just showing again that it’s only geographic location that keeps it slightly relevant for westerners.
I understand why he doesn’t want Sweden in but why block Finland?
Aaaand Swedish leftist naïveté comes back to bite us all in the butt, again.
Dunno finland maybe it’s about arms embargo but sweden damn pkk can help them if putin attacks
Turkey needs to be kicked out of nato
Misinformation campaign in the comments about Sweden supporting the PKK. Seems to be Turkish posters, presumably Erdogan supporters.
To be honest not surprised that the two sole dictators of NATO Erdogan and Orban are likely to oppose accession, I also think those two are the strongest argument against joining in the first place.
I definitely think we should veto Sweden but I don’t think it will happen. Erdogan is the same guy who turned his country to a refugee camp for a few billion dollars. Sweden could easily buy him, so don’t worry.
A month ago the president of Finland had a talk with Erdogan and statement of the talk was that Turkey will support Finland (for joining Nato). The message from their foreign minister was the same
I don’t know about the beef between Turkey and Sweden. I am pretty sure most Finns don’t even know what PKK is.
I think the statement is what we call “iltalypsy”in Finnish. “An attempt to gain something extra out of an agreement after the negotiators have agreed on the content but the contract has not yet been signed by the parties”
I guess it was kind of expected from a country like Turkey. I think those few Finns who didn’t want Finland to join NATO used Turkey (and Hungary and even US) as an argument why we shouldn’t join as they don’t represent our values
NATO’s headache, causing yet another headache I see.
I want us to join NATO. But to be in the same alliance as Turkey and Erdogan? Im not so keen on that.
Greeks veto Macedonia because of their fucking name: r/europe *sleep*
Turkey maybe thinks (we don‘t know) of vetoing Sweden because they send weapons to Turkey‘s arch enemy PKK/YPG: r/europe *“Why would they do that?“*
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Watch out. He is going to do some dumb shit.
Okay, what bribe does he want this time?
Does it have to be unanimous?
Hes probably going to use their application as a bargaining chip to demand f35s or some other shit
As expected, Turkey is not so positive towards Swedens NATO membership. Sweden has been openly supporting or tolerating the PKK in Sweden for years, so this was expected.
Not so sure about Finland though.
i am just saying but we are probably gonna accept Finland but Sweden wont gonna happen
Aw come on. What the hell does he want now?
Got it. Calling CIA to fix this situation…
Turkey and Hungary are always the two problematic children of NATO 🤦♂️
Sweden is understandable (Swedish support for PKK) but Turkey has absolutely no reason to block Finland.
I think this is just Erdoğan saying “I want some bribes first” that’s all.
If Nato wants to play ball, they can call Turkey’s membership into question. It is supposed to be an alliance of democracies after all. Does Turkey qualify?
Can’t understand why they would object, they are part of NATO but they would deny another country the same protection!
I hate this fucker so much. There is not a single reasonable argument against finland and sweden joining NATO.
Do other NATO countries recognize PKK as terrorists? I don’t think so, so Erdogan can just fuck off
Finland is fine but I also have questions about Sweden 🙂
I am not an Erdo fan but I’ll just grab my popcorn and enjoy watching Sweden (and possibly others) try to convince and make some compromises (possibly he just wants some bribe or nominal victories to save face) for entertainment lol.
Well, not Finland but sweeden can fight Russia with pkk, they don’t need nato
Good. First time i support a statment from erdo.
>Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said on Friday it was not possible for NATO-member Turkey to view positively plans by Sweden and Finland to join the pact, saying the two countries were “home to many terrorist organisations”.
Idk about Finland but for Sweden this is half true. We have many terrorist sympathizers who like many other “refugees” should’ve never been allowed to enter Sweden.
right, well, he can get fucked
So what’s new here? Just Turkey being Turkey
Also, he critisizes past NATO administrations for letting Greece in the alliance.
Wow, I never thought that I would hear something positive from this guy. Even if my country’s politicians are making foolish decisions, at least someone will try to stop them.
Let’s kick Turkey out then
karma is a bitch
yeah an alliance should serve all its members, thats shocking news for some people. some far away countries should cut their hostilities with turkey they entertain for cheap publicity gains and support the other members of the alliance.
Just last year Sweden gave YPG Syrian offshoot wing of PKK $350 million in aid. That attitude would be the same as Turkey donating $350 million to IRA during U.K. insurgency days or ISIS during the times when they were attacking neighbouring countries and Europe. These terrorists have killed over 40,000 of our citizens in the past 40 years.
So you can probably guess why Turkey doesn’t want Sweden in NATO.
I am sure the world would be happy to exchange Turkey with Finland and Sweden.
It’s a negotiation tactic to influence Swedish policy. Notice “not positive” rather than “we will block it”.
I doubt he will veto though.
Yawn.
Us and UK support Swedish and Finnish ascension. NATO is not the EU where a grain of sand can close the entire beach.
They will either throw them some useless appeasement(keep dreaming about the f-35s tho lmao) or just lean on them a little and they will fold as usual.
Turkey just showing again that it’s only geographic location that keeps it slightly relevant for westerners.
I understand why he doesn’t want Sweden in but why block Finland?
Aaaand Swedish leftist naïveté comes back to bite us all in the butt, again.
Dunno finland maybe it’s about arms embargo but sweden damn pkk can help them if putin attacks
Turkey needs to be kicked out of nato
Misinformation campaign in the comments about Sweden supporting the PKK. Seems to be Turkish posters, presumably Erdogan supporters.
To be honest not surprised that the two sole dictators of NATO Erdogan and Orban are likely to oppose accession, I also think those two are the strongest argument against joining in the first place.
[Everyone’s response to what Erdogan thinks](https://j.gifs.com/v2yl0M.gif)
I definitely think we should veto Sweden but I don’t think it will happen. Erdogan is the same guy who turned his country to a refugee camp for a few billion dollars. Sweden could easily buy him, so don’t worry.
A month ago the president of Finland had a talk with Erdogan and statement of the talk was that Turkey will support Finland (for joining Nato). The message from their foreign minister was the same
I don’t know about the beef between Turkey and Sweden. I am pretty sure most Finns don’t even know what PKK is.
I think the statement is what we call “iltalypsy”in Finnish. “An attempt to gain something extra out of an agreement after the negotiators have agreed on the content but the contract has not yet been signed by the parties”
I guess it was kind of expected from a country like Turkey. I think those few Finns who didn’t want Finland to join NATO used Turkey (and Hungary and even US) as an argument why we shouldn’t join as they don’t represent our values
NATO’s headache, causing yet another headache I see.
I want us to join NATO. But to be in the same alliance as Turkey and Erdogan? Im not so keen on that.
Greeks veto Macedonia because of their fucking name: r/europe *sleep*
Turkey maybe thinks (we don‘t know) of vetoing Sweden because they send weapons to Turkey‘s arch enemy PKK/YPG: r/europe *“Why would they do that?“*
kick Turkey out, let PKK join NATO also Sweden