Zelenskiy says Kyiv ready for peace talks, but will not cede territory

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1. full article:

   >KYIV, Oct 28 (Reuters) – Ukraine is ready for peace talks but will not withdraw its troops from additional territory first as Moscow has demanded, President Volodymyr Zelenskiy said.

   >In comments to reporters released on Tuesday, he said he was happy for talks to be held anywhere, except in Russia itself or on the territory of Moscow’s close ally Belarus.

   >Plans for a summit in Budapest this month between U.S. President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin were put on hold after Moscow stuck to demands, including that Ukraine cede more territory as a condition for a ceasefire.

   >Trump has backed Ukraine’s call for an immediate ceasefire on current lines.

   ##EUROPEAN AND UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS SET TO MEET

   >Ukrainian and European officials will meet on Friday or Saturday to discuss the details of a ceasefire plan, Zelenskiy told reporters on Tuesday after meeting the visiting Dutch foreign minister, David van Weel.

   >”It is not a plan to end the war. First of all, a ceasefire is needed,” Zelenskiy said.

   >”This is a plan to begin diplomacy… Our advisers will meet in the coming days, we agreed on Friday or Saturday. They will discuss the details of this plan.”

   >In Monday’s comments to reporters, Zelenskiy said he was happy to attend peace talks, including in Hungary, despite reservations about some of the positions of its Prime Minister Viktor Orban, who, he said, “blocks everything for Ukraine”.

   >”If there will be results, then God bless – let the talks take place anywhere,” he said. “It almost doesn’t matter, just not in Russia, of course, and definitely not in Belarus.”

   >Zelenskiy also urged U.S. lawmakers to pass tougher restrictions on Russia after Trump imposed sanctions on Moscow’s two biggest oil companies.

   >Ukraine would need stable financing from its European allies for another two or three years, Zelenskiy said.

   >He also said in his remarks on Tuesday that he hoped for China’s help to end the war.

   >”We would like very much for China to put pressure on Russia to end this war and not to assist its continuation in any way,” he said.

2. spending so much time talking about a ceasefire (months now) instead of just offering a permanent peace agreement is so strange to me, Russia already ruled out a ceasefire and wants a permanent end to the war, why not go along with this? I can think of only one reason, would like to hear others perspective

3. As it shouldn’t. On the flip side Ukraine doesn’t have the juice to completety push Russia out. It’s gonna take Putin getting out of office for there to be a legitimate peace there

4. So Ukraine will not cede territory but wants peace talks

   Russia wants to keep territories, at least some of them

   So peace talks are pointless and all Zelensky is doing is posturing/virtue signalling/wasting time. There is no point in talking if deal breaker conditions can’t be satisfied.

5. In other words, Kyiv is not ready for peace talks.

   Ukraine seems to always be few steps behind in it’s expectations. Right after the successful first counter-offensive, they could have possibly been able to get a peace deal like that. Limited investment from Russia, Ukraine had a strong position, cool.
   But no, then they also wanted Donbas and Crimea.

   Now when they are running out of manpower, the Russians are the ones pushing lines forward, and support in the west is slowly dwindling, while Russia is to some extend used to sanctions, they are willing to sign peace, but not cede any territory.

   I get it, in a just world, Ukraine would get Crimean and whole of Donbas back, Putin would bite the curb, and everyone would live happily ever after.
   But that’s not the world we live in, and Ukraine is not winning this war.

6. For the ignorant people in these comments, most of whom I suspect are Russian Bots, Ukraine is entirely justified in this stance. Russia has repeatedly shown their tactic to be; Attack, commit War Crimes, stop conflict in exchange for territory and a false promise to never attack again, attack again later.

   They did this to Finlind as the earliest example I’m aware of, but they’ve *already* done this to Ukraine before in recent memory. Zelenskiy is not falling for Russians lies.

   If you think Ukraine should just cede territory you are either ignorant, which is a problem easily fixed, or biased. You may choose which you identify as.

7. Looking at the map and the fact that Russia seems close to taking lyman, kupyansk, pokrovsk and myrnograd cities…why would….realistically speaking…Russia countenance serious talks that freeze the lines where they are?

   I just think the reality on the front atm is horrific and in attritional warfare the losses sustained are just unsustainable for the nation that seems to have fewer men.

   I don’t expect peace for another 18 months at least tbh.

   Its almost like we should have given Ukraine the kit it needed years ago…in 2022 before Russia does what it does in every war and grows from shambles to a steam roller.

8. Lots of crypto Russian propagandists coming out of woodwork under these threads. However if they want Russia to win, they should volunteer themselves for Russian Army instead of spamming pre-crafted talking points under an anime_tiddies thread.

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