people who say this stuff do realise that it makes them look bad if they say ‘well after the 2% tax cut I guess I’ll change back again’, but that’s how it works I suppose.
I just think claiming to have switched political allegiance permanently over one possibly out of touch minister seems unlikely.
>There are other questions the Tories should be asking themselves. One is how much the opposition wants Johnson to stay. A lot, is the answer. For as long as Downing Street is occupied by a man who broke the law and lied about it, the government’s message is corrupted.
>
>A dismal TV interview on Tuesday illustrated the problem. The prime minister had to begin by asserting his honesty, which is not something any politician can self-certify. He was then unable to summon plausible empathy for people feeling the strain from rising living costs. Asked about the plight of a 77-year-old woman who could not afford to feed herself and who spent her days travelling on buses to keep warm, the prime minister’s response was to claim credit – falsely – for introducing the subsidised transport regime that made her desolate journeys possible.
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>It was a revealing moment not because it was insensitive or dishonest, although it was both. The telling feature was Johnson’s compulsion to relate the question back to the only issue in which he can sustain any interest – himself.
>
>Narcissism was less toxic when its bearer radiated good cheer. “Boris” the eternal optimist was a character who melted hard questions with a sunny disposition. But that persona has a twin, a sullen figure mostly hidden from the public eye but familiar to Downing Street insiders. This is brooding, needy Boris. He is always feeling betrayed and unappreciated. He is the kind of man who resents having his limelight blocked by a cold, hungry pensioner.
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>Whichever Johnson is on display, his ego hogs all the political bandwidth available for the Conservative party. That poses a dilemma for MPs. They can have an agenda to address the country’s economic and social needs, or they can spend their energy deflecting and dissimulating to cover for their delinquent leader. They cannot easily do both.
We’ll see, news changes fast and the anti labour propaganda hasnt even started yet.
Also, who are you that this is the final straw lmao
Edit – some people seem to be struggling with this common gigure of speech so for clarity:
Im suggesting people should have sworn to never vote tory after any one of the more serious things theyve done, like you know breaking the law or mismanaging covid or ppe contracts… instead of “buy da cheaper food innit?”
Does that help you?
This man is MP for Redruth in Cornwall – Cornwall is the poorest place *in Europe* (or was).
This man is so woefully out of touch with his *own fucking constituency*. The Tories are an absolute disgrace.
Fucking go and vote them out tomorrow, for the love of all that is good. They are selling this country off the highest bidder, and they have nothing but contempt for you. If this doesn’t make that clear, literally nothing will.
Edit: love that folks think they can say “not the poorest” without even looking it up, as if that renders the entire thing irrelevant.
1) that’s semantics, doesn’t address the issue that the statistic raises;
2) we are the *6th. Largest. Economy. Worldwide.* – if your counter is that an entire political constituency in this economy *isn’t the worst*, and you think that makes it ok, explain to me how being 6th is in any way good? What is a measure of wealth if it’s held by a few people whilst millions starve?
You have discredited the very notion of population wealth statistics, rendering them entirely pointless.
3) this is a man on £85k, with expenses paid, *including accommodation* (which means he literally gets to bank the full £85k, making it incomparable to any other salary) telling people who make minimum wage how to budget – and he isn’t even remotely close to reality. He’s way, way off. As if folks hadn’t considered value ranges. This is a man whose *entire job* is to represent his constituents, and this is his take.
He is an abject disgrace, and if you support him in any way, you are too.
So sick of “aspirational” Tories thinking their lack of empathy and dehumanisation of others is any other than morally reprehensible. Do horrid shit and you are a horrid person. *Vote in favour of horrid shit and you are a horrid person*. It is quite literally that simple.
I’m having difficulty imagining a person who would consider this to be their line, surely if you cared about this, you would’ve already sworn off the Tories, and if you haven’t already, what about this is particularly worse than anything else they’ve done it said?
“Let them eat Smartprice”
Councillors listed for the local elections are down as ‘Local Conservatives’ now, as if they can suddenly just pretend they’re something different. I personally find that a lot worse because it shows they are basically happy to still support the Tories locally, but just don’t want to be responsible for doing so. If the Tories aren’t claiming responsibility for the Tories then why ever vote for them? They might and probably will just do whatever they please in the moment irrespective of what they promised.
Whether you think they promised to protect the NHS or to close the borders to immigrants you’re probably wrong, because neither of those two actions benefit any of them personally and that’s the only consistent limiter on their behavior when nobody takes responsibility for anything.
There’s only one councilor near me standing who isn’t from the three main parties and i’ll be voting for them on the basis they’re the least likely to be corrupt.
What sort of low-life is being voted for, this man should disappear and live on an island with value brands shoved up his back passage. What a total prick.
Ride the bus all day & buy yellow pack
Good head to head they had the other day.
That’ll definitely help people with the extortionate rise in fuel prices
Presumably the next suggestion is just selling your least favourite child
I don’t get why these random MPs come out with such out of touch nonsense. Why not just keep your mouth shut?
I mean, he isn’t entirely wrong, there isn’t much wrong with some value products. Pasta is pasta if you are hungry.
But we are the fifth wealthiest country in the world, an MP’s job should be to make sure everyone has a reasonable standard of living, not to give people tips on how to scrape by on nothing.
The final straw was decades ago, not sure who can justify voting for them at this point
This was peoples line in the sand, really ?
Let them eat Tesco value cake
How to keep the poor poor? Force them to spend money on budget goods which break more easily so they have to pay more down the line to replace.
Until they get to the ballot box and to nobody’s surprise, they vote Tory.
The connection between Tory politicians and the press may come to be their downfall. Every day a minister or MP opens his stupid mouth and says some claptrap without thinking. Johnson is the worst.
The media, god bless ’em, then trumpet this stupidity loud and clear. Surely even the most entrenched Tory sees and hears this shit and realises that the (Tory) party is over.
I was already never going to vote Tory ever, but I’m never going to ever now either!
How twisted do you have to be to vote tory in the first place!? Utter madness
I wish all these rich twats would stop telling us what to do with our fucking money. It’s getting stale.
Graham sits at his kitchen table, the Daily Mail spread out in front of him, the remains of his breakfast pushed aside. He’d voted Conservative his whole life, and it had served him well. Straight into a job out of school, he’d started a family in his early twenties. A steady career progression, the house paid off before the first of his grandchildren arrived. This milestone achieved, he’d cashed in his pension and started a business with a friend.
For fifteen years, they’d gone from strength to strength. Embracing zero hours contracts and the gig economy, the impressive profits they’d once wondered at felt like a right; and everyone else in business seemed to agree.
Graham closed his eyes, but he wouldn’t cry. He’d only done that once, when they’d come to take the Jag back. He wouldn’t dwell on the end, the debt, the unexpected taxes, Janice going, that glorious, glorious night when they took back control… Still, he’d trimmed his sails; he got through it. The maisonette wasn’t *bad*, he drove a soulless but efficient car, Aldi whisky wasn’t so terrible. He’d adapted, and he had faith that the Conservatives would help everyone adapt to difficult times.
But this. Value brands. He eyed his breakfast bowl, splatted and patted at the remaining gunk with his spoon. Value brands. He stood up, barely knowing it. Flung his bowl and the spoon full force into the fridge freezer, where it broke.
“IT’S NOT THE SAME, GEORGE! IT’S NOT WEETABIX, IT’S STOCKWELL AND CO WHEAT BISCUITS! IT’S NOT THE SAME”
“i stress, i dont believe economic equality is possible; indeed some measure of inequality is essential for the spirit of envy and keeping up with the Joneses that is, like greed, a valuable spur to economic activity.” – Boris Johnson
Not a world changing comment, merely a Patronising Tory adding fuel to the fire.
Quick reminder Eustice in his post as Secretary of State for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs enacted polices that enriched his family, and the trust in which he is part of.
Deja vu
This happens over and over and over again.
The tories get into power. Steal as much as they can before getting caught then get voted out. Labour start in a shit position and try to rebuild. People get bored of them once things aren’t too bad anymore and vote tory again.
The tories will always shaft you. Never ever vote tory.
shitbags be shitbags.
They’ll forget by next week, cue immigrant story in news
narrator: they voted Tory again
Tories have been telling the poor to know their place for years, why is it only now working to make them ‘never vote tory again’?
That was the straw that broke the camels back?. Where has their common-sense been hiding these last 11 years?
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people who say this stuff do realise that it makes them look bad if they say ‘well after the 2% tax cut I guess I’ll change back again’, but that’s how it works I suppose.
I just think claiming to have switched political allegiance permanently over one possibly out of touch minister seems unlikely.
Be right to add here this snippet from [Behr’s column](https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/04/boris-johnson-conservative-party-local-elections) this morning:
>There are other questions the Tories should be asking themselves. One is how much the opposition wants Johnson to stay. A lot, is the answer. For as long as Downing Street is occupied by a man who broke the law and lied about it, the government’s message is corrupted.
>
>A dismal TV interview on Tuesday illustrated the problem. The prime minister had to begin by asserting his honesty, which is not something any politician can self-certify. He was then unable to summon plausible empathy for people feeling the strain from rising living costs. Asked about the plight of a 77-year-old woman who could not afford to feed herself and who spent her days travelling on buses to keep warm, the prime minister’s response was to claim credit – falsely – for introducing the subsidised transport regime that made her desolate journeys possible.
>
>It was a revealing moment not because it was insensitive or dishonest, although it was both. The telling feature was Johnson’s compulsion to relate the question back to the only issue in which he can sustain any interest – himself.
>
>Narcissism was less toxic when its bearer radiated good cheer. “Boris” the eternal optimist was a character who melted hard questions with a sunny disposition. But that persona has a twin, a sullen figure mostly hidden from the public eye but familiar to Downing Street insiders. This is brooding, needy Boris. He is always feeling betrayed and unappreciated. He is the kind of man who resents having his limelight blocked by a cold, hungry pensioner.
>
>Whichever Johnson is on display, his ego hogs all the political bandwidth available for the Conservative party. That poses a dilemma for MPs. They can have an agenda to address the country’s economic and social needs, or they can spend their energy deflecting and dissimulating to cover for their delinquent leader. They cannot easily do both.
We’ll see, news changes fast and the anti labour propaganda hasnt even started yet.
Also, who are you that this is the final straw lmao
Edit – some people seem to be struggling with this common gigure of speech so for clarity:
Im suggesting people should have sworn to never vote tory after any one of the more serious things theyve done, like you know breaking the law or mismanaging covid or ppe contracts… instead of “buy da cheaper food innit?”
Does that help you?
This man is MP for Redruth in Cornwall – Cornwall is the poorest place *in Europe* (or was).
This man is so woefully out of touch with his *own fucking constituency*. The Tories are an absolute disgrace.
Fucking go and vote them out tomorrow, for the love of all that is good. They are selling this country off the highest bidder, and they have nothing but contempt for you. If this doesn’t make that clear, literally nothing will.
Edit: love that folks think they can say “not the poorest” without even looking it up, as if that renders the entire thing irrelevant.
1) that’s semantics, doesn’t address the issue that the statistic raises;
2) we are the *6th. Largest. Economy. Worldwide.* – if your counter is that an entire political constituency in this economy *isn’t the worst*, and you think that makes it ok, explain to me how being 6th is in any way good? What is a measure of wealth if it’s held by a few people whilst millions starve?
You have discredited the very notion of population wealth statistics, rendering them entirely pointless.
3) this is a man on £85k, with expenses paid, *including accommodation* (which means he literally gets to bank the full £85k, making it incomparable to any other salary) telling people who make minimum wage how to budget – and he isn’t even remotely close to reality. He’s way, way off. As if folks hadn’t considered value ranges. This is a man whose *entire job* is to represent his constituents, and this is his take.
He is an abject disgrace, and if you support him in any way, you are too.
So sick of “aspirational” Tories thinking their lack of empathy and dehumanisation of others is any other than morally reprehensible. Do horrid shit and you are a horrid person. *Vote in favour of horrid shit and you are a horrid person*. It is quite literally that simple.
I’m having difficulty imagining a person who would consider this to be their line, surely if you cared about this, you would’ve already sworn off the Tories, and if you haven’t already, what about this is particularly worse than anything else they’ve done it said?
“Let them eat Smartprice”
Councillors listed for the local elections are down as ‘Local Conservatives’ now, as if they can suddenly just pretend they’re something different. I personally find that a lot worse because it shows they are basically happy to still support the Tories locally, but just don’t want to be responsible for doing so. If the Tories aren’t claiming responsibility for the Tories then why ever vote for them? They might and probably will just do whatever they please in the moment irrespective of what they promised.
Whether you think they promised to protect the NHS or to close the borders to immigrants you’re probably wrong, because neither of those two actions benefit any of them personally and that’s the only consistent limiter on their behavior when nobody takes responsibility for anything.
There’s only one councilor near me standing who isn’t from the three main parties and i’ll be voting for them on the basis they’re the least likely to be corrupt.
What sort of low-life is being voted for, this man should disappear and live on an island with value brands shoved up his back passage. What a total prick.
Ride the bus all day & buy yellow pack
Good head to head they had the other day.
That’ll definitely help people with the extortionate rise in fuel prices
Presumably the next suggestion is just selling your least favourite child
I don’t get why these random MPs come out with such out of touch nonsense. Why not just keep your mouth shut?
I mean, he isn’t entirely wrong, there isn’t much wrong with some value products. Pasta is pasta if you are hungry.
But we are the fifth wealthiest country in the world, an MP’s job should be to make sure everyone has a reasonable standard of living, not to give people tips on how to scrape by on nothing.
The final straw was decades ago, not sure who can justify voting for them at this point
This was peoples line in the sand, really ?
Let them eat Tesco value cake
How to keep the poor poor? Force them to spend money on budget goods which break more easily so they have to pay more down the line to replace.
Until they get to the ballot box and to nobody’s surprise, they vote Tory.
The connection between Tory politicians and the press may come to be their downfall. Every day a minister or MP opens his stupid mouth and says some claptrap without thinking. Johnson is the worst.
The media, god bless ’em, then trumpet this stupidity loud and clear. Surely even the most entrenched Tory sees and hears this shit and realises that the (Tory) party is over.
I was already never going to vote Tory ever, but I’m never going to ever now either!
How twisted do you have to be to vote tory in the first place!? Utter madness
I wish all these rich twats would stop telling us what to do with our fucking money. It’s getting stale.
Graham sits at his kitchen table, the Daily Mail spread out in front of him, the remains of his breakfast pushed aside. He’d voted Conservative his whole life, and it had served him well. Straight into a job out of school, he’d started a family in his early twenties. A steady career progression, the house paid off before the first of his grandchildren arrived. This milestone achieved, he’d cashed in his pension and started a business with a friend.
For fifteen years, they’d gone from strength to strength. Embracing zero hours contracts and the gig economy, the impressive profits they’d once wondered at felt like a right; and everyone else in business seemed to agree.
Graham closed his eyes, but he wouldn’t cry. He’d only done that once, when they’d come to take the Jag back. He wouldn’t dwell on the end, the debt, the unexpected taxes, Janice going, that glorious, glorious night when they took back control… Still, he’d trimmed his sails; he got through it. The maisonette wasn’t *bad*, he drove a soulless but efficient car, Aldi whisky wasn’t so terrible. He’d adapted, and he had faith that the Conservatives would help everyone adapt to difficult times.
But this. Value brands. He eyed his breakfast bowl, splatted and patted at the remaining gunk with his spoon. Value brands. He stood up, barely knowing it. Flung his bowl and the spoon full force into the fridge freezer, where it broke.
“IT’S NOT THE SAME, GEORGE! IT’S NOT WEETABIX, IT’S STOCKWELL AND CO WHEAT BISCUITS! IT’S NOT THE SAME”
“i stress, i dont believe economic equality is possible; indeed some measure of inequality is essential for the spirit of envy and keeping up with the Joneses that is, like greed, a valuable spur to economic activity.” – Boris Johnson
Not a world changing comment, merely a Patronising Tory adding fuel to the fire.
Quick reminder Eustice in his post as Secretary of State for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs enacted polices that enriched his family, and the trust in which he is part of.
Deja vu
This happens over and over and over again.
The tories get into power. Steal as much as they can before getting caught then get voted out. Labour start in a shit position and try to rebuild. People get bored of them once things aren’t too bad anymore and vote tory again.
The tories will always shaft you. Never ever vote tory.
shitbags be shitbags.
They’ll forget by next week, cue immigrant story in news
narrator: they voted Tory again
Tories have been telling the poor to know their place for years, why is it only now working to make them ‘never vote tory again’?
That was the straw that broke the camels back?. Where has their common-sense been hiding these last 11 years?