Disgusting practice, this is not something we want in Ireland
EDIT: Only on reddit would somebody take issue with “FGM is bad”
FGM is utter savagery.
>In 2021, the IFPA provided 55 FGM treatment service appointments, including both medical consultations and counselling sessions. At the end of 2023, the clinic had provided 241 appointments in the previous 12 months – a 338% increase in two years.
You’d wonder if they were running at capacity in 2021 considering a lot of other medical services had limited operations and availability due to COVID.
It’s really depressing to think how common place some of these barbaric practices are around the world. Glad the victims are able to get the help and treatment they need here, and that the services are expanding.
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Headline is very misleading
I wonder what is creating this increase….
I suspect the vast majority of cases are women who were mutilated in other countries and are fleeing here for safety. But if anyone is ever found guilty of having performed this barbaric act here the first stage of their sentencing hearing should be nailing their penis and each ball to the hand rail of the dock in court and leave them stand there without treatment or pain relief while victim impact reports are delivered.
Isn’t infant circumcision male genital mutilation
FGM is illegal in Ireland and, is also illegal to take a child abroad to have it performed.
“Operation Limelight
Female Genital Mutilation is illegal in Ireland and it is illegal to travel to another country to have it performed.
It is a violation of the human rights of women and girls.
It has no health benefits but can cause serious health issues.
If you suspect that a girl is at risk of Female Genital Mutilation or if it has already taken place, please contact the following agencies for advice and support:…”
Disgusting practice that has no place in Ireland and Europe
Title is quite misleading. Firstly, a 338% increase of a small number is *still a small number*.
Secondly, the demand is due to *immigrants who need treatment for what they have suffered before coming here*. It’s not the Irish doing the FGM
Dr Ali from Clonskeagh Cultural centre was forced to roll back on his views when the mob came a knocking.
Anybody linked to FF (or non medical genotal mutilation in general) should be imprisoned and deported if possible. We can’t allow this barbarity to take hold in Ireland.
can some of y’all not read??
it’s demand for TREATMENT. it’s *survivors of FGM seeking care* for the ongoing health issues and pain they experience, *not* people seeking to *avail* of FGM 😭😭😭
It’s honestly hard to believe this is still happening in 2025. Women are showing up in Ireland with lifelong injuries from FGM real people, not statistics and somehow it still isn’t treated like the emergency it is.
This isn’t “culture,” it’s violence. There’s nothing sacred about mutilating a child. And as men, we can’t just shrug and say “that’s a women’s issue.” It’s *our* responsibility too to speak up, to push for proper care for survivors here, and to call out the systems that let this keep happening anywhere in the world.
Every girl deserves to grow up whole. Every woman deserves to heal. No excuses, no looking away.
FGM is horrific and an abomination. That being said the headline seems sensationalist. It’s a big number and demands a closer look. Firstly from the article it seems the numbers include consultations and counseling. I would assume that each case or FGM would include a number of appointments and if including counseling, this may go on for a protracted period of time. Next the jump they’re presenting in the headline is that from 55 in 2021, to 241 in 2022, but this then drops to 224 in 2023, so it could also be interpreted as a 7.5% drop in treatment. Let me be clear, one case of FGM is one too many, but poorly presented stats really annoy me.
Male genital mutilation (non medical circumcisions, not performed by doctors) are being performed in Ireland for cultural reasons, using both resident amateurs and fly in practitioners. I’d post the links below, but hard on a phone, my bad.
Google Osajie Ighinedion 2005, found not guilty of reckless endangerment after a child bled to death.
Google Philip Ogbewe who was sentenced to 3 years in 2020, and who called himself Dr Philip.
Google Rabbi Jonathan Abraham, a fly in from UK, charged with illegal circumcision in 2024, not sure if that case is still running.
These are examples of male genital mutilation of children performed in Ireland. Why should we assume that female mutilations are not happening here?
FGM is inherently a family-based / private thing. It’s horrendous but for personal and now legal reasons the families subjecting their daughters to this will hide it.
It WILL go under-reported. Because even if a girl is subjected to it, it’ll likely be many years before she can report it to AGS (likely after she turns 18). At which point she faces the dilemma of essentially turning her parents over to the law and almost definitely a prison sentence (and likely being excluded from her family). It’s unlikely to be cut-and-dry in their heads whether to do that. So having a harsh punishment for this is actually a deterrent for women seeking treatment and/or reporting. Even worse, if things go wrong during the mutilation, parents have every reason to delay/avoid seeking medical care for their child as they’ll almost definitely be reported by the doctors/hospital who will recognise it as FGM in a heartbeat.
My instinct is to punish the crap out of this practice as it’s barbaric. But it’s depressing to think a step further and recognise the second and third order effects of doing so.
All Ireland can do is offer after-care and education to dissuade recent immigrants who bring it over?
AFAIK it’s also likely the matriarch who pushes for this to be done in most cases.
So many commenters here not realising that for many survivors of FGM, they don’t even realise it is wrong until they are older and are able to educate themselves away from family or manage to see a doctor without their family present. I can’t even imagine the amount of girls and women here dealing with the aftermath of it and not even realising it should never have happened in the first place. Education is key here. It breaks my heart 💔
I read the title way too fast that I missed the word ‘treatment’, read the rest of the title and almost had a heart attack.
To put the numbers in perspective, since the headline is ambiguous and sounds scary.
Between 1 in 20,000 and 1 in 25,000 people sought care for the after effects of FGM.
If you filled Croke park to capacity (80,000) with randomly selected people you would expect 3 – 4 people in the crowd to be looking for treatment.
It would be ideal if the number was 0. The headline is saying that people are seeking treatment for the consequences of FGM, not seeking to get FGM done.
IMO FGM is a crime against humanity.
Life in prison for anyone that carries this out in Ireland. I feel similar revulsion for male circumcision carried out on babies. If someone wants to do that once they’re an adult then ok…
So sad. I hope we can provide the treatment they need. No one deserves to go though life in chronic pain.
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Disgusting practice, this is not something we want in Ireland
EDIT: Only on reddit would somebody take issue with “FGM is bad”
FGM is utter savagery.
>In 2021, the IFPA provided 55 FGM treatment service appointments, including both medical consultations and counselling sessions. At the end of 2023, the clinic had provided 241 appointments in the previous 12 months – a 338% increase in two years.
You’d wonder if they were running at capacity in 2021 considering a lot of other medical services had limited operations and availability due to COVID.
It’s really depressing to think how common place some of these barbaric practices are around the world. Glad the victims are able to get the help and treatment they need here, and that the services are expanding.
Criminal
[removed]
Headline is very misleading
I wonder what is creating this increase….
I suspect the vast majority of cases are women who were mutilated in other countries and are fleeing here for safety. But if anyone is ever found guilty of having performed this barbaric act here the first stage of their sentencing hearing should be nailing their penis and each ball to the hand rail of the dock in court and leave them stand there without treatment or pain relief while victim impact reports are delivered.
Isn’t infant circumcision male genital mutilation
FGM is illegal in Ireland and, is also illegal to take a child abroad to have it performed.
From https://www.garda.ie/en/about-us/organised-serious-crime/garda-national-protective-services-bureau-gnpsb-/female-genital-mutilation-fgm-/
“Operation Limelight
Female Genital Mutilation is illegal in Ireland and it is illegal to travel to another country to have it performed.
It is a violation of the human rights of women and girls.
It has no health benefits but can cause serious health issues.
If you suspect that a girl is at risk of Female Genital Mutilation or if it has already taken place, please contact the following agencies for advice and support:…”
Disgusting practice that has no place in Ireland and Europe
Title is quite misleading. Firstly, a 338% increase of a small number is *still a small number*.
Secondly, the demand is due to *immigrants who need treatment for what they have suffered before coming here*. It’s not the Irish doing the FGM
Dr Ali from Clonskeagh Cultural centre was forced to roll back on his views when the mob came a knocking.
[https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/ali-selim-i-condemn-fgm-i-totally-apologise-for-the-confusion-1.3396787](https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/ali-selim-i-condemn-fgm-i-totally-apologise-for-the-confusion-1.3396787)
Anybody linked to FF (or non medical genotal mutilation in general) should be imprisoned and deported if possible. We can’t allow this barbarity to take hold in Ireland.
can some of y’all not read??
it’s demand for TREATMENT. it’s *survivors of FGM seeking care* for the ongoing health issues and pain they experience, *not* people seeking to *avail* of FGM 😭😭😭
It’s honestly hard to believe this is still happening in 2025. Women are showing up in Ireland with lifelong injuries from FGM real people, not statistics and somehow it still isn’t treated like the emergency it is.
This isn’t “culture,” it’s violence. There’s nothing sacred about mutilating a child. And as men, we can’t just shrug and say “that’s a women’s issue.” It’s *our* responsibility too to speak up, to push for proper care for survivors here, and to call out the systems that let this keep happening anywhere in the world.
Every girl deserves to grow up whole. Every woman deserves to heal. No excuses, no looking away.
FGM is horrific and an abomination. That being said the headline seems sensationalist. It’s a big number and demands a closer look. Firstly from the article it seems the numbers include consultations and counseling. I would assume that each case or FGM would include a number of appointments and if including counseling, this may go on for a protracted period of time. Next the jump they’re presenting in the headline is that from 55 in 2021, to 241 in 2022, but this then drops to 224 in 2023, so it could also be interpreted as a 7.5% drop in treatment. Let me be clear, one case of FGM is one too many, but poorly presented stats really annoy me.
Male genital mutilation (non medical circumcisions, not performed by doctors) are being performed in Ireland for cultural reasons, using both resident amateurs and fly in practitioners. I’d post the links below, but hard on a phone, my bad.
Google Osajie Ighinedion 2005, found not guilty of reckless endangerment after a child bled to death.
Google Philip Ogbewe who was sentenced to 3 years in 2020, and who called himself Dr Philip.
Google Rabbi Jonathan Abraham, a fly in from UK, charged with illegal circumcision in 2024, not sure if that case is still running.
These are examples of male genital mutilation of children performed in Ireland. Why should we assume that female mutilations are not happening here?
FGM is inherently a family-based / private thing. It’s horrendous but for personal and now legal reasons the families subjecting their daughters to this will hide it.
It WILL go under-reported. Because even if a girl is subjected to it, it’ll likely be many years before she can report it to AGS (likely after she turns 18). At which point she faces the dilemma of essentially turning her parents over to the law and almost definitely a prison sentence (and likely being excluded from her family). It’s unlikely to be cut-and-dry in their heads whether to do that. So having a harsh punishment for this is actually a deterrent for women seeking treatment and/or reporting. Even worse, if things go wrong during the mutilation, parents have every reason to delay/avoid seeking medical care for their child as they’ll almost definitely be reported by the doctors/hospital who will recognise it as FGM in a heartbeat.
My instinct is to punish the crap out of this practice as it’s barbaric. But it’s depressing to think a step further and recognise the second and third order effects of doing so.
All Ireland can do is offer after-care and education to dissuade recent immigrants who bring it over?
AFAIK it’s also likely the matriarch who pushes for this to be done in most cases.
So many commenters here not realising that for many survivors of FGM, they don’t even realise it is wrong until they are older and are able to educate themselves away from family or manage to see a doctor without their family present. I can’t even imagine the amount of girls and women here dealing with the aftermath of it and not even realising it should never have happened in the first place. Education is key here. It breaks my heart 💔
I read the title way too fast that I missed the word ‘treatment’, read the rest of the title and almost had a heart attack.
Such a disgusting thing to do to anyone.
[I recently saw this video](https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/1n5yhyj/i_went_down_a_female_genital_mutilation_rabbit/) of an FGM survivor demonstrating all types of FGM on a silicone model. I think it’s important to see exactly how much can be removed and how crudely they’re sewn back up
To put the numbers in perspective, since the headline is ambiguous and sounds scary.
Between 1 in 20,000 and 1 in 25,000 people sought care for the after effects of FGM.
If you filled Croke park to capacity (80,000) with randomly selected people you would expect 3 – 4 people in the crowd to be looking for treatment.
It would be ideal if the number was 0. The headline is saying that people are seeking treatment for the consequences of FGM, not seeking to get FGM done.
IMO FGM is a crime against humanity.
Life in prison for anyone that carries this out in Ireland. I feel similar revulsion for male circumcision carried out on babies. If someone wants to do that once they’re an adult then ok…
So sad. I hope we can provide the treatment they need. No one deserves to go though life in chronic pain.
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