The whole degree thing has become one massive Ponzi scheme….
Where letting 17-18 year olds make massively crippling finical decisions with no assistance and on the idea that university is about the experience, when we should be sitting all school leavers down showing them the labor market and what each degree is actually worth…
Might get less people spending 40k on pointless degrees that will earn them barely more than minimum wage
I had the delight of studying at one of these so called “elite” universities (sarcasm). The tuition there was abysmal and the contact time with lecturers was practically none existent. All of the tutorials were farmed out to phd candidates, the majority of whom were just there to collect their pay check. There was no specialised career or postgrad guidance beyond one lecture essentially saying “do what you like”.
For all of this, I paid £27,000 in tuition fees. The fact that they’re asking for more is scandalous but they’ll get what they want. They always do because middle class parents absolutely cream themselves over little Fitzroy going to some red brick, Russell group institution. It’s a fucking scam.
Universities got something like £17k per student per year in 1990 (adjusted). Now they get just under 10k. Russell Group unis are primarily research focused, so taking on more students to compensate would affect that model significantly.
Why the fuck do they need more? Where is this money going?
The Russell Group were among the loudest voices calling for tuition fees to be introduced and later to be increased. They wanted universities to be run like businesses; well, they got their wish. Now it’s up to them to figure out how to be a business.
The amazing thing about the student loan system is that it is simultaneously very expensive AND leaves unis under funded.
I went from the Open University to a Russell Group uni. The Open University was significantly better in every way and I highly doubt gaining a degree from the OU, instead of from a Russell group uni, would have had any detrimental effect to my career.
The idea that you pay more to get less from a Russel Group institution and somehow that is a positive thing is ludicrous.
The humanities in particular do themselves a massive disservice by treating students so cynically and offering so little. It’s not just “anti-intellectuals” that question the ethics or even the point of these degrees. A significant amount of graduates are of this mindset after getting fucked over for tens of thousands of pounds.
I find watching 16-18 yr olds getting actively hoodwinked into enrolling into these universities, when they clearly have know idea what they want to do or where they want to go in life, incredibly distasteful and disingenuous.
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The whole degree thing has become one massive Ponzi scheme….
Where letting 17-18 year olds make massively crippling finical decisions with no assistance and on the idea that university is about the experience, when we should be sitting all school leavers down showing them the labor market and what each degree is actually worth…
Might get less people spending 40k on pointless degrees that will earn them barely more than minimum wage
I had the delight of studying at one of these so called “elite” universities (sarcasm). The tuition there was abysmal and the contact time with lecturers was practically none existent. All of the tutorials were farmed out to phd candidates, the majority of whom were just there to collect their pay check. There was no specialised career or postgrad guidance beyond one lecture essentially saying “do what you like”.
For all of this, I paid £27,000 in tuition fees. The fact that they’re asking for more is scandalous but they’ll get what they want. They always do because middle class parents absolutely cream themselves over little Fitzroy going to some red brick, Russell group institution. It’s a fucking scam.
Universities got something like £17k per student per year in 1990 (adjusted). Now they get just under 10k. Russell Group unis are primarily research focused, so taking on more students to compensate would affect that model significantly.
Why the fuck do they need more? Where is this money going?
The Russell Group were among the loudest voices calling for tuition fees to be introduced and later to be increased. They wanted universities to be run like businesses; well, they got their wish. Now it’s up to them to figure out how to be a business.
The amazing thing about the student loan system is that it is simultaneously very expensive AND leaves unis under funded.
I went from the Open University to a Russell Group uni. The Open University was significantly better in every way and I highly doubt gaining a degree from the OU, instead of from a Russell group uni, would have had any detrimental effect to my career.
The idea that you pay more to get less from a Russel Group institution and somehow that is a positive thing is ludicrous.
The humanities in particular do themselves a massive disservice by treating students so cynically and offering so little. It’s not just “anti-intellectuals” that question the ethics or even the point of these degrees. A significant amount of graduates are of this mindset after getting fucked over for tens of thousands of pounds.
I find watching 16-18 yr olds getting actively hoodwinked into enrolling into these universities, when they clearly have know idea what they want to do or where they want to go in life, incredibly distasteful and disingenuous.