Three of the most senior figures in Orangeism have written to the King urging him to “reflect on his coronation oath”.
The Grand Masters of Ireland, England and Scotland wrote to Charles after what they described as a “disappointing” prayer meeting with Pope Leo XIV last month.
The Orange Standard, the institution’s official publication, reported that “many members of the Orange family will have been disappointed” by the King’s meeting with the pontiff on October 23.
It said that praying with the Pope contradicts the King’s “solemn commitments” outlined by his coronation oath, adding that he must “maintain in the United Kingdom the Protestant Reformed religion established by law”.
Last month’s meeting marked the first time in almost 500 years that a reigning English monarch prayed publicly with the Pope.
The last time was during the reign of King Henry VIII, renowned for splitting with the Catholic Church in 1534 during the Reformation to divorce Catherine of Aragon and marry Anne Boleyn.
This led to the establishment of the Church of England in the UK, with the King as its head.
“Many members of the Orange family will have been disappointed with King Charles III’s decision to pray with Pope Leo in the Sistine Chapel,” the Orange Standard stated.
“[It was] the first meeting of its kind since King Henry VIII broke with Rome and Protestantism was established as the state religion of England in 1534.
“King Charles has shown a willingness to engage with a range of other religious leaders.
“Nonetheless, the fact remains that in his 2023 coronation oath, King Charles swore to ‘maintain in the United Kingdom the Protestant Reformed Religion established by law’.
“As Orangemen and women should we not be discouraged or deflected from our solid foundations which are rooted in the truths of the Reformation.
“In October 1555, Latimer and Ridley were burned at the stake for their beliefs. Winds of change will always blow; they have done so down through the centuries and will no doubt continue. Nevertheless, it is important to remain steadfast in the Reformed faith, even in the face of opposition.
“The Grand Masters of Ireland, England and Scotland have jointly written privately to His Majesty to encourage him to reflect upon the solemn commitments of his coronation oath and the promises he made before God.”
There was strong criticism of Charles’s meeting with the Pope.
The Independent Orange Order expressed “great sadness”, citing a catalogue of grievances with the “obnoxious” theological position of the Catholic Church, which it said has no biblical basis.
Kyle Paisley, the son of the late DUP founder Ian Paisley, called on Charles to cancel the engagement or “abdicate” and “let someone else take his place who is a true Protestant”.
The Evangelical Protestant Society also expressed “deep concern”, with its secretary, Wallace Thompson, saying the fundamental differences which arose in the 16th century remain relevant today and “can’t simply be swept under the carpet”.
A Buckingham Palace spokesperson said at the time that the trip was intended to mark “a significant moment in relations” between both churches, recognise the ecumenical work they have undertaken and reflect the Jubilee year's theme of walking together as 'Pilgrims of Hope'.
by askmac
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Bunch of bigoted idiots..
“bUT ItS noT a sECteRiAN oRGanISatIOn” /s
Has the BBC, UTV, Bel Tel, Newsletter etc asked any of the senior Unionist politicians if they support the O.O ‘s complaint against their King? Gavin Robinson, Paul Givan, Robin Swann…?
Last week I was told it was only fringe loopers in the Independent O.O. Clearly it’s all of them. Isn’t this an issue worth discussing in the NI media?
Sounds like they’re not being loyal to the king.
Can we still call them Loyalists?
hope he writes back that he’s the master they pledge allegiance to so they can lump it
Good god I’m scundered for them.
Love how its 2025 and theres still a Paisley telling people how to religion
The arrogance of it.
I’d kneel down and pray for that kind of confidence if it didn’t mean being part of such an arrogant obnoxious gang of melts.
Charles has much bigger problems on his plate with the ongoing Epstein drama with his brother, not to mention his son and daughter in law’s falling out with the family still rumbles on but these stupid cunts think he’ll take time out of his day to read a letter where they call him a lundy for doing a nice, decent thing.
Lol, LMFAO even.
Stupid cunts.
The funny thing is literally no one in England cares. Only a bunch of Irish people complaining
>citing a catalogue of grievances with the “obnoxious” theological position of the Catholic Church, which it said has no biblical basis
A reminder that it’s just a fact that Jesus left behind a church, not a book.
And if you don’t have Koine Greek then you aren’t reading the book directly.
And that the New Testament they use was codified by Pope Damasus I.
By far the most unchristian thing on show is their burning hatred of Catholicism.
You can be 100 % certain charlie boy prefers sinn fein to the orange order.
Wales doesn’t get its own grandmaster?
They really need to get over themselves. “Latimer and Ridley were burned … for their beliefs.” Do they really think they have a monopoly on victimhood for reasons of faith? The Forty Martyrs of England and Wales would beg to disagree. Also executed for their faith, but to the Orange Order that was probably a good thing, because they were heretics (/s). And they were by no means the only ones.
I think it’s wonderful that we can all get together and pray together. I think it’s great for Christians to focus on what unites rather than what divides.
My personal belief is, that by sowing division and feeding hatred, the Orange Order is doing the Devil’s work.
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Did the OO have any comments on this in 2013? Or have they not decided if they hate Buddhists yet?
As if an English King cares what a handful of lunatics in Ireland think.
It must be frustrating for normal unionists to have their political cause so intertwined with these type of loopers.
So weird that we have a bunch of adult men gathering together to play dress up and act like they are a super important group. It’s geniunely so weird.
Paisley is a Presbyterian which means he doesn’t believe the church the king is head of is legitimate. It’s just more Catholic bashing
Seems hes not such a great Marnick, seems his mother didn’t learn him how to do the king thing.
What a massive bunch of gimps
They’re so soo close to realising
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Charlie isn’t in the Orange Order and they hold no political position.
Their letters are worthless.
Political unionism and the OO never miss an opportunity to show their arses in public.
Despite being a very soft unionist myself, its hilarious to watch tbf.
🤣
Its like an onion article
I can’t wait for the Orange Order to be dead and gone.
Don’t quite get it if your a loyalist does that automatically mean your a royalist? If not then what is it your loyal to ??
Idiots
> abdicate and let someone else take his place
Let’s see:
William – probably would have done the same
George – He’s 12
Charlotte – She’s 10
Louis – He’s 7
Harry – Less said the better
Archie – Who?
Lilibet – Hasn’t even started going to nursery school
Andrew – ………….
Catch yourself on, Kyle
Didn’t have the Kings in the RA on my 2025 bingo file
Maybe they should just give up on monarchy altogether?
*When your da loves the monarchy and hates the catholics, but then the monarchy shows acceptance to the catholics…*
He’d better be careful, we all know what happened to the first King Charles after he got too friendly with the Catholics 😂
Imagine being so staunch you think you can lecture the LITERAL KING about the Church he leads. Twats.
I personally thought it was a nice gesture – if both sides here would pray together, life might be better for all of us.
There are far more serious issues in the World to worry about than who is praying with whom.
Fuckin Grandmaster Sash
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