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It’s not 1946 anymore grandpa get with the times
Ah yes, imperialism
The attempt to frame the generation who fought in the great wars as ‘modern left aligned,’ especially on race, is farcical
Fuck a United States of Europe.
This world can’t even do a United States of America!
We just need the EU back and try to be better. Nazis in the whitehouse, genocide live on TV, Russia threatened world peace once more, fuck sake. The last thing we need is another America.
#makeGreatBritishMemesGreatBritishMemesAgain
“I do not admit….that a great wrong has been done to the red Indians of America or the Black people of Australia. I do not admit a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher grade race, a more worldly wide race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place. I do not admit it.” – Winston Churchill
The full speech if anyone is interested – Churchill was clearly discussing a European Union of which the UK was not part. But why care about context?
What kind of loser do you have to be to spam politics slop on meme subs?
Another dreary propaganda post instead of a meme
Boring 😴
Lest we forget what?
Mmm peace, and how has that worked out then? Over the last 10 years (2015-2024), there have been approximately **978 completed, failed, and foiled terror-related incidents** across the European Union. And hundreds of successful ones.
What a shame the brexiteers didn’t see this in 2016.
Churchill was good in the war but other than that is was a shockingly bad politician
It was Prime Minister Churchill who announced in June 1940 the ‘Declaration of Union’ between Great Britain and France. With the full backing of his Cabinet, Churchill stated,
*‘The two governments declare that France and Great Britain shall no longer be two nations, but one Franco-British Union… Every citizen of France will enjoy immediately citizenship of Great Britain; every British subject will become a citizen of France.’*
An Anglo-French stamp was even designed to commemorate the proposed Anglo-Franco union, but the Nazi invasion of France scuppered those plans. The proposals did demonstrate, however, that Churchill was in favour of political union between European countries.
After the first British victory of the Second World War at El Alamein, Churchill wrote to his foreign secretary, Anthony Eden, on 21 October 1942:
*‘Hard as it is to say now.. I look forward to a United States of Europe, in which the barriers between the nations will be greatly minimised and unrestricted travel will be possible.’*
At London’s Albert Hall, in May 1947, just a few months after his Zurich speech, Churchill spoke as Chairman and Founder of the United Europe Movement to *‘present the idea of a United Europe in which our country will play a decisive part..’*
Churchill argued that Britain and France should be the, ‘founder partners in this movement’ and concluded, *`Britain will have to play her full part as a member of the European family’.*
In May 1948 Churchill said in the opening speech to the Congress of Europe in Holland, that the drive towards a United Europe, *‘should be a movement of the people, not parties’.*
In October 1948, at a Conservative Mass Meeting at Llandudno, Churchill made clear that Britain held a unique position at the heart of ‘three majestic circles’: the ‘Empire and Commonwealth’, ‘the English speaking world’ and a ‘United Europe’.
Churchill described these three circles as ‘co-existent’ and ‘linked together’. He said,
*‘We are the only country which has a great part in every one of them. We stand, in fact, at the very point of junction, and here in this Island at the centre of the seaways and perhaps of the airways also, we have the opportunity of joining them all together.’*
One year on, in August 1949, at the first meeting of the Council of Europe in Strasbourg, Churchill delivered his speech in French, and said:
*‘We are reunited here, in this new Assembly, not as representatives of our several countries or various political parties, but as Europeans forging ahead, hand in hand, and if necessary elbow to elbow, to restore the former glories of Europe..*
*‘There is no reason for us not to succeed in achieving our goal and laying the foundation of a United Europe. A Europe whose moral design will win the respect and acknowledgement of all humanity, and whose physical strength will be such that no person will dare to disturb it as it marches peacefully towards the future.’*
Later in November 1949, at a speech given for the European Movement at Kingsway Hall, London, Churchill said:
*‘The British Government have rightly stated that they cannot commit this country to entering any European Union without the agreement of the other members of the British Commonwealth. We all agree with that statement. But no time must be lost in discussing the question with the Dominions and seeking to convince them that their interests as well as ours lie in a United Europe.’*
The following year, in 1950, Churchill called for the creation of a European Army ‘..under a unified command, and in which we should all bear a worthy and honourable part.’ (France objected to this plan).
Notice how in his speeches, Churchill said ‘we’ must build a United States of Europe; not ‘they’. He said ‘we’ aim at the eventual participation of the peoples of Europe; not ‘they’. He said ‘we’ must assemble and combine countries to join the Union of Europe; not ‘they’. He said ‘we’ should create a European army; not ‘they’ It’s surely beyond doubt that Churchill wanted the UK to take part in the unification of Europe.
During a debate in June 1950 in the House of Commons to discuss a united Europe, Churchill said that he could not ‘at present’ foresee Britain being ‘a member of a Federal Union of Europe’. However, Churchill went on to explain that this was primarily because of Britain’s position, ‘at the centre of the British Empire and Commonwealth’, and, ‘our fraternal association with the United States of America.’
Crucially, in answering the question ‘Are you prepared to part with any degree of national sovereignty in any circumstances for the sake of a larger synthesis?’, Churchill responded:
*‘The Conservative and Liberal Parties say, without hesitation, that we are prepared to consider, and if convinced to accept, the abrogation of national sovereignty, provided that we are satisfied with the conditions and the safeguards.. The Conservative and Liberal Parties declare that national sovereignty is not inviolable, and that it may be resolutely diminished for the sake of all the men in all the lands finding their way home together.’*
Commenting on this in his autobiography, ‘The course of my life’, Edward Heath wrote, ‘This shows conclusively that, for all his practical reservations during the late 1940s and early 1950s, Churchill was never in principle against our membership of the European Community.’
During the 1960s Churchill’s health rapidly declined, but his support for a united Europe didn’t. According to Churchill’s last Private Secretary, Sir Anthony Montague Brown, in August 1961, Churchill wrote to his constituency Chairman:
*‘I think that the Government are right to apply to join the European Economic Community..’*
In this letter, also quoted in Sir Anthony’s book, ‘Long Sunset’ (pages 273-274), Churchill supported the ‘welding’ of West Germany, France, Italy, Belgium, Holland and Luxembourg into ‘an organic whole’, which he described as a ‘happy outcome’ of the European Economic Community. Churchill added,
*‘We might well play a great part in these developments to the profit of not only ourselves, but of our European friends also.’*
Sir Anthony also confirmed that in 1963, just two years before Churchill died, he wrote in a private letter:
*‘The future of Europe if Britain were to be excluded is black indeed.’*
Europe for Europeans
Please link this to every “twitter historian” who repeats that BS about UK entering an economic union and then being tricked into a political union.
Im sure he envisioned a european union debating and probably passing legislation called chat control which is the most authoritarian shit to have ever existed
Worth noting that whilst Churchill did hold this sentiment – the important caveat is that he specifically did *not* want the UK to be a part of it.
About 10 years too late to campaign for staying in the EU…
He had the right idea. Unfortunately Brexiteers don’t honour that.
As someone who considers themselves right wing with elements of left, absolutely. A united states of Europe, with European values would be utopia. And it was for a while.
Sadly, importing incompatible cultures over, and putting their needs above the local populace has caused a lot of resentment over the last 20 years. Any complaints have fallen on deaf ears, or worse, cries of racism.
So here we are, 4 years or so from possibly getting the most right wing govt the UK will have seen.
I hope you’re all happy.
Churchill was a twat
The idea Churchill was in favour of giving away UK independence to an unaccountable antidemocratic opaque supra nation organisation in Brussels is absurd.
Churchill was a absolute waste of oxygen, lest we forget the people of britain did not like him when he were about
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This sub is so boring and repetitive now
“OOOOOOH YES” – *Also Churchill*
bot account. One month old and only posts anti farage stuff.
It’s not 1946 anymore grandpa get with the times
Ah yes, imperialism
The attempt to frame the generation who fought in the great wars as ‘modern left aligned,’ especially on race, is farcical
Fuck a United States of Europe.
This world can’t even do a United States of America!
We just need the EU back and try to be better. Nazis in the whitehouse, genocide live on TV, Russia threatened world peace once more, fuck sake. The last thing we need is another America.
#makeGreatBritishMemesGreatBritishMemesAgain
“I do not admit….that a great wrong has been done to the red Indians of America or the Black people of Australia. I do not admit a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher grade race, a more worldly wide race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place. I do not admit it.” – Winston Churchill
The full speech if anyone is interested – Churchill was clearly discussing a European Union of which the UK was not part. But why care about context?
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What kind of loser do you have to be to spam politics slop on meme subs?
Another dreary propaganda post instead of a meme
Boring 😴
Lest we forget what?
Mmm peace, and how has that worked out then? Over the last 10 years (2015-2024), there have been approximately **978 completed, failed, and foiled terror-related incidents** across the European Union. And hundreds of successful ones.
What a shame the brexiteers didn’t see this in 2016.
Churchill was good in the war but other than that is was a shockingly bad politician
It was Prime Minister Churchill who announced in June 1940 the ‘Declaration of Union’ between Great Britain and France. With the full backing of his Cabinet, Churchill stated,
*‘The two governments declare that France and Great Britain shall no longer be two nations, but one Franco-British Union… Every citizen of France will enjoy immediately citizenship of Great Britain; every British subject will become a citizen of France.’*
An Anglo-French stamp was even designed to commemorate the proposed Anglo-Franco union, but the Nazi invasion of France scuppered those plans. The proposals did demonstrate, however, that Churchill was in favour of political union between European countries.
After the first British victory of the Second World War at El Alamein, Churchill wrote to his foreign secretary, Anthony Eden, on 21 October 1942:
*‘Hard as it is to say now.. I look forward to a United States of Europe, in which the barriers between the nations will be greatly minimised and unrestricted travel will be possible.’*
At London’s Albert Hall, in May 1947, just a few months after his Zurich speech, Churchill spoke as Chairman and Founder of the United Europe Movement to *‘present the idea of a United Europe in which our country will play a decisive part..’*
Churchill argued that Britain and France should be the, ‘founder partners in this movement’ and concluded, *`Britain will have to play her full part as a member of the European family’.*
In May 1948 Churchill said in the opening speech to the Congress of Europe in Holland, that the drive towards a United Europe, *‘should be a movement of the people, not parties’.*
In October 1948, at a Conservative Mass Meeting at Llandudno, Churchill made clear that Britain held a unique position at the heart of ‘three majestic circles’: the ‘Empire and Commonwealth’, ‘the English speaking world’ and a ‘United Europe’.
Churchill described these three circles as ‘co-existent’ and ‘linked together’. He said,
*‘We are the only country which has a great part in every one of them. We stand, in fact, at the very point of junction, and here in this Island at the centre of the seaways and perhaps of the airways also, we have the opportunity of joining them all together.’*
One year on, in August 1949, at the first meeting of the Council of Europe in Strasbourg, Churchill delivered his speech in French, and said:
*‘We are reunited here, in this new Assembly, not as representatives of our several countries or various political parties, but as Europeans forging ahead, hand in hand, and if necessary elbow to elbow, to restore the former glories of Europe..*
*‘There is no reason for us not to succeed in achieving our goal and laying the foundation of a United Europe. A Europe whose moral design will win the respect and acknowledgement of all humanity, and whose physical strength will be such that no person will dare to disturb it as it marches peacefully towards the future.’*
Later in November 1949, at a speech given for the European Movement at Kingsway Hall, London, Churchill said:
*‘The British Government have rightly stated that they cannot commit this country to entering any European Union without the agreement of the other members of the British Commonwealth. We all agree with that statement. But no time must be lost in discussing the question with the Dominions and seeking to convince them that their interests as well as ours lie in a United Europe.’*
The following year, in 1950, Churchill called for the creation of a European Army ‘..under a unified command, and in which we should all bear a worthy and honourable part.’ (France objected to this plan).
Notice how in his speeches, Churchill said ‘we’ must build a United States of Europe; not ‘they’. He said ‘we’ aim at the eventual participation of the peoples of Europe; not ‘they’. He said ‘we’ must assemble and combine countries to join the Union of Europe; not ‘they’. He said ‘we’ should create a European army; not ‘they’ It’s surely beyond doubt that Churchill wanted the UK to take part in the unification of Europe.
During a debate in June 1950 in the House of Commons to discuss a united Europe, Churchill said that he could not ‘at present’ foresee Britain being ‘a member of a Federal Union of Europe’. However, Churchill went on to explain that this was primarily because of Britain’s position, ‘at the centre of the British Empire and Commonwealth’, and, ‘our fraternal association with the United States of America.’
Crucially, in answering the question ‘Are you prepared to part with any degree of national sovereignty in any circumstances for the sake of a larger synthesis?’, Churchill responded:
*‘The Conservative and Liberal Parties say, without hesitation, that we are prepared to consider, and if convinced to accept, the abrogation of national sovereignty, provided that we are satisfied with the conditions and the safeguards.. The Conservative and Liberal Parties declare that national sovereignty is not inviolable, and that it may be resolutely diminished for the sake of all the men in all the lands finding their way home together.’*
Commenting on this in his autobiography, ‘The course of my life’, Edward Heath wrote, ‘This shows conclusively that, for all his practical reservations during the late 1940s and early 1950s, Churchill was never in principle against our membership of the European Community.’
During the 1960s Churchill’s health rapidly declined, but his support for a united Europe didn’t. According to Churchill’s last Private Secretary, Sir Anthony Montague Brown, in August 1961, Churchill wrote to his constituency Chairman:
*‘I think that the Government are right to apply to join the European Economic Community..’*
In this letter, also quoted in Sir Anthony’s book, ‘Long Sunset’ (pages 273-274), Churchill supported the ‘welding’ of West Germany, France, Italy, Belgium, Holland and Luxembourg into ‘an organic whole’, which he described as a ‘happy outcome’ of the European Economic Community. Churchill added,
*‘We might well play a great part in these developments to the profit of not only ourselves, but of our European friends also.’*
Sir Anthony also confirmed that in 1963, just two years before Churchill died, he wrote in a private letter:
*‘The future of Europe if Britain were to be excluded is black indeed.’*
Europe for Europeans
Please link this to every “twitter historian” who repeats that BS about UK entering an economic union and then being tricked into a political union.
Im sure he envisioned a european union debating and probably passing legislation called chat control which is the most authoritarian shit to have ever existed
Worth noting that whilst Churchill did hold this sentiment – the important caveat is that he specifically did *not* want the UK to be a part of it.
About 10 years too late to campaign for staying in the EU…
He had the right idea. Unfortunately Brexiteers don’t honour that.
As someone who considers themselves right wing with elements of left, absolutely. A united states of Europe, with European values would be utopia. And it was for a while.
Sadly, importing incompatible cultures over, and putting their needs above the local populace has caused a lot of resentment over the last 20 years. Any complaints have fallen on deaf ears, or worse, cries of racism.
So here we are, 4 years or so from possibly getting the most right wing govt the UK will have seen.
I hope you’re all happy.
Churchill was a twat
The idea Churchill was in favour of giving away UK independence to an unaccountable antidemocratic opaque supra nation organisation in Brussels is absurd.
Churchill was a absolute waste of oxygen, lest we forget the people of britain did not like him when he were about
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