
So there is this map of the countries that have allegedly banned boiling lobsters alive and i wanted to know how true it was for Norway since these maps aren’t very trustable to say the least.
I already know that it’s just not true for the UK but the only information i could find about it is Wikipedia stating that it’s “restricted” and it’s source is a MelMagazine article which mentions the exact same thing in one sentence with no source.
I also know about the restrictions on fishing lobster from the Norwegian directorate of fisheries website but couldn’t find info on cooking methods.
( sorry if this was asked before, I couldn’t find a post about it via the search tab )
by ImpressiveChest538
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Hope that’s not illegal…
I wasn’t able to find anything either, but obviously you shouldn’t do it for ethical reasons
Pretty sure its illegal in Denmark aswell.
The answer as of 2018 seems to be “eh… kinda?”: https://www.nrk.no/sorlandet/hvordan-bor-hummeren-avlives_-mer-diskusjon-etter-pabud-i-sveits-1.13894174
Authorities state that it’s illegal, but a legal loophole that allows crustaceans like shrimp to be boiled alive seems to also apply to lobsters.
Those are the non-EU countries
Spike to the head. Put in pot.
It’s not hard, and there is NO difference in taste.
Yer fond of me lobster ain’t ye?
I couldnt do it. Was in france and there were living lobsters in the supermarket.. love the taste, but could not put a living creature into boiling water
According to Mattilsynet (Norwegian Food Safety Authority) “Lobsters should not be killed by boiling alive, but should be killed or stunned before cooking.”
Norwegian only in this linke [https://www.mattilsynet.no/fisk-og-akvakultur/fiskevelferd/hvordan-bedove-avlive-og-behandle-krabber/hvordan-avlive-hummer](https://www.mattilsynet.no/fisk-og-akvakultur/fiskevelferd/hvordan-bedove-avlive-og-behandle-krabber/hvordan-avlive-hummer)
Bit interesting since you “had to” boil them alive due to quality in a ruling that was in force from 1986 to 1996.
[https://lovdata.no/dokument/SFO/forskrift/1986-07-01-1428/KAPITTEL_17#KAPITTEL_17](https://lovdata.no/dokument/SFO/forskrift/1986-07-01-1428/KAPITTEL_17#KAPITTEL_17)
Chapter 17 – under point 17.6 –
[https://lovdata.no/dokument/SF/forskrift/2013-06-28-844](https://lovdata.no/dokument/SF/forskrift/2013-06-28-844)
Under 19 it says that the lobster must be boiled after it has been killed.
And you don’t kill mosquitos🦟 I guess or flys.. no?
How the fuck do you boil a lobster when you’re dead
There is no specific regarding boiling of lobsters, there is a generic law that requires killing of animals to be performed with regard to the animals welfare and with the least possible stress and pain for the animal. The relevant authority (Mattilsynet) has stated very clearly that they consider killing lobsters by boiling to be a violation of that law.
When me and my family was preping lobster we cooked the water so hot that it kills the lobster instantly.
[Consider the lobster – David Foster Wallace](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/23/Ctl2.JPG)
Nah – I absolutely put both the crabs and lobsters I catch in the hot water alive.
I vaguely remember reading about the UK one. They had determined that the lobster could feel pain and therefore it was cruel. No fucking shit, all animals feel pain, if they didn’t they wouldn’t survive very long.
[Edit to clarify:] The law does not explicitly allow for boiling lobsters alive, so therefore it’s not allowed just like it would not be allowed to boil a sheep alive as the law says animals in captivity must be sedated before slaughter or else killed instantly.
There used to be a law about of seafood food safety that explicitly said captured shrimp, crabs and lobster should be boiled alive as soon as possible and then frozen to preserve them.
[https://lovdata.no/forskrift/1996-06-14-667/§10-4](https://lovdata.no/forskrift/1996-06-14-667/§10-4)
*This law have since been repealed*, and the new version says nothing about how to slaughter animals captured alive. That leaves just the standard animal welfare law which says **all** animals in captivity must be sedated before slaughter, or killed instantly. So since boiling crabs or lobsters alive is not instant, and there is no exception given it’s technically illegal to boil a lobsters alive.
[https://lovdata.no/lov/2009-06-19-97/§12](https://lovdata.no/lov/2009-06-19-97/§12)
Same would strictly speaking apply to shrimp, but despite the letter of the law the interpretation there seem to be that it’s not practically possible to sedate each individual shrimp and that due to their size boiling water kill them so fast it’s “good enough”.
Wait so Norway have restrictions on fishing lobster but are ok with killing whales?
I fully support anything that limits pointless animal suffering. But I’d be more impressed by Norway if they were to stop their licensed catching of Minke Whales; as mammals are so much higher up in their brain function, and all other countries except Japan & Iceland agree.
This is news to me
So it means no.
Others have already answered, but there is actually a law related to this. And as many laws you have to read between the lines to argue that it is illegal.
§19 from Forskrift om kvalitet på fisk og fiskevarer it states that Lobsters should be boiled immediately after being killed.
It being required to boil after its offed tells that the two should be separated.
https://lovdata.no/forskrift/2013-06-28-844/§19
Fucking crustaceans, I’m telling you if they could do it to you they would.
I don’t even eat seafood I just don’t want to be part of the problem by not having them boiled alive.
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