The NY Times reporting from the current COP summit in Brazil. There is not a single Federal official at the conference. Meanwhile China has an enormous presence and countries are lining up to buy their green energy technologies.

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The future of energy has arrived- just not in the US. A report from COP
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  1. And to think when Jimmy Carter put solar on the White House roof in 1979 the US could have defined and owned all of the “Green Economy”. It had the manufacturing base to transition; instead those businesses are gutted. Big Oil and Detroit backed Reagan and shut that down fast. Similar to what they are doing right now. Don’t believe it? WHY would Trump (who took over a billion in Campaign (cough) contributions from these guys release an order to terminate specifically “start stop engine” – the engines used in hybrids which get their mileage up to well above 35MPG. Its clear who this serves. It makes zero sense for the environment or the consumer.

    Rest assured US competitors will have the cheapest energy on the planet. Energy is a cost in all manufacturing. Higher US energy costs will make competition harder if not impossible. No protectionism can mitigate this. It never ever has. What is it they say about insanity? Its doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. We need innovation – not protectionism.

  2. This feels like the Bretton Woods Conference but for energy rather than finance. That post-WW2 conference cemented America’s leadership for a half century; this one might do the same for China.

  3. The sad part is it looked with what passed recently that the US was going to get back into the game. Now it is basically giving the market away. China will dominate but EU countries may get some. In a decade the US will look foolish walking away from alternate energy sources and business.

  4. They should buy green energy technology. The US is peddling the past. China is selling the future.

  5. I have a slightly different take. Over the next 3 years solar, batteries etc will all get cheaper as adoption expands globally. In 2029 the US led by a Democrat President and Congress will open its doors and adopt at a rapid clip. The economics will be undeniable, and our government will be able to avoid the need for subsidization.

    On the time scale of decades, it will all be the same. Economics of renewables dictate the future of energy

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