Ethnically Polish poet who born in formerly Lithuanian part of Commonwealth that now is in Belarus.
Tbh almost all nobles in Commonwealth were polonized and Mickiewicz was from noble family. Even initially ethic Lithuanian nobles by the end of Polish independence were mostly Polish.
Cities had a lot of minorities though, still Vilnius/Grodno areas were pretty Polish.
He clearly identified with PLC as a whole, so I think everyone is in right here.
Though *Biržiška removing every mentions of Poland and polish patriotism in his works in their translations were… Not cool, to put it the mildest way possible.
*specified the translator name
Mickiewicz was Srbijan
Man born in what is now Belarus writes “Lithuania, my homeland” in Polish, causing silly arguments 200 years later.
there was no such a thing as “belarus” when he lived
Actually every country but those three countries should be colored “Who?”
Does Switzerland actually have its own Wikipedia??
He is as much polish as he is lithuanian.
Edit: on the other hand saying that he was polish poet doesnt mean that he wasn’t lithuanian. E.g. Oscar V de Lubisz Milosz was lithuanian aswell tho he is considered to be french poet.
Haha, deal with this Lithuania /j
Wikipedia is supposed to be neutral and present unbiased facts. This means that ideally a map of something like this would be one colour only. If you think an article violates those guidelines, you could discuss it on the discussion page or edit the article. So if some of you speak Russian for example, you can “correct” the thing.
Is there a similar map about Chopin?
Scottish Wikipedia?
Ffs. He was Nigerian. Get over it!
Wonder how it looks with Tesla
Russia has to be fucking difficult because it sucks and wishes it was Polska
Russian food sucks and Russian borscht is wack af – there I said it >:/
Now do that with Chopin and Skłodowska
Ok but the choice of colors for this map is horrible.
I named my cat after him in honor of the statue In Krakow! He is Polish to me!
He is Polish. Idc where he was born or what he said, he does not decide, I do.
Chopin, Skłodowska-Curie, now Mickiewicz… At this rate no one will be Polish anymore 🤷♀️
Real question – is he even widely known outside of Poland and Lithuania? Like, do people in other parts of Europe ever heard of Mickiewicz?
Now do the same with chopin
Switzerland: no comment
każdy Polak wie że Mickiewicz cofnął sie w czasie i zajebal utwory Słowackiego
Tbh I wish he wasn’t polish, reading his shit in school was awful
In the Russian Wikipedia he is called a Pole, although it also mentions that in modern Belarus some consider him a Belarusian poet.
He was as Polish as Józef Piłsudski, maybe even more. He probably considered Lithuania to be as Polish as Masovia or Silesia, maybe even more than the latter.
He was definitely not Belarusian.
Its funny, when you realize, that “nation state” concept was created in XVIII century, and it took few more to spread and make popular that weird concept, and Mickiewicz lived in XVIII-XIX century.
Mickiewicz was born in today’s Belarus, he praise Lithuanians, and polish people want to have him just for poles. Its kinda pity. Its almost as pathetic as saying that Marie Curie Skłodowska was a polish scientist and hers achievements in science are in some weird way connected to poland.
Lithuania is (closest to) right imo.
It’s just another example that the national identity we are so eager to use nowadays doesn’t really make much fucking sense.
Lol, the Scottish one doesn’t exist since the Scots wiki got purged.
Do Kopernik next lol
What was his mother tongue?
*mad Lithuania noises*
let them have him, boring motherfucker
Honestly, given the time period I’d guess his identity would be bound more to commonwealth than a singular nation.
Everyone is arguing whether he was polish or lithuanian, but no one points out, how Russia and Belarus write that he was belorussian (which is complete bullshit, of course)
I mean… Like anybody west of Poland would know who the hell that is?
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Ethnically Polish poet who born in formerly Lithuanian part of Commonwealth that now is in Belarus.
Tbh almost all nobles in Commonwealth were polonized and Mickiewicz was from noble family. Even initially ethic Lithuanian nobles by the end of Polish independence were mostly Polish.
Cities had a lot of minorities though, still Vilnius/Grodno areas were pretty Polish.
He clearly identified with PLC as a whole, so I think everyone is in right here.
Though *Biržiška removing every mentions of Poland and polish patriotism in his works in their translations were… Not cool, to put it the mildest way possible.
*specified the translator name
Mickiewicz was Srbijan
Man born in what is now Belarus writes “Lithuania, my homeland” in Polish, causing silly arguments 200 years later.
there was no such a thing as “belarus” when he lived
Actually every country but those three countries should be colored “Who?”
Does Switzerland actually have its own Wikipedia??
He is as much polish as he is lithuanian.
Edit: on the other hand saying that he was polish poet doesnt mean that he wasn’t lithuanian. E.g. Oscar V de Lubisz Milosz was lithuanian aswell tho he is considered to be french poet.
Haha, deal with this Lithuania /j
Wikipedia is supposed to be neutral and present unbiased facts. This means that ideally a map of something like this would be one colour only. If you think an article violates those guidelines, you could discuss it on the discussion page or edit the article. So if some of you speak Russian for example, you can “correct” the thing.
Is there a similar map about Chopin?
Scottish Wikipedia?
Ffs. He was Nigerian. Get over it!
Wonder how it looks with Tesla
Russia has to be fucking difficult because it sucks and wishes it was Polska
Russian food sucks and Russian borscht is wack af – there I said it >:/
Now do that with Chopin and Skłodowska
Ok but the choice of colors for this map is horrible.
I named my cat after him in honor of the statue In Krakow! He is Polish to me!
He is Polish. Idc where he was born or what he said, he does not decide, I do.
Chopin, Skłodowska-Curie, now Mickiewicz… At this rate no one will be Polish anymore 🤷♀️
Real question – is he even widely known outside of Poland and Lithuania? Like, do people in other parts of Europe ever heard of Mickiewicz?
Now do the same with chopin
Switzerland: no comment
każdy Polak wie że Mickiewicz cofnął sie w czasie i zajebal utwory Słowackiego
Tbh I wish he wasn’t polish, reading his shit in school was awful
In the Russian Wikipedia he is called a Pole, although it also mentions that in modern Belarus some consider him a Belarusian poet.
He was as Polish as Józef Piłsudski, maybe even more. He probably considered Lithuania to be as Polish as Masovia or Silesia, maybe even more than the latter.
He was definitely not Belarusian.
Its funny, when you realize, that “nation state” concept was created in XVIII century, and it took few more to spread and make popular that weird concept, and Mickiewicz lived in XVIII-XIX century.
Mickiewicz was born in today’s Belarus, he praise Lithuanians, and polish people want to have him just for poles. Its kinda pity. Its almost as pathetic as saying that Marie Curie Skłodowska was a polish scientist and hers achievements in science are in some weird way connected to poland.
Lithuania is (closest to) right imo.
It’s just another example that the national identity we are so eager to use nowadays doesn’t really make much fucking sense.
Lol, the Scottish one doesn’t exist since the Scots wiki got purged.
Do Kopernik next lol
What was his mother tongue?
*mad Lithuania noises*
let them have him, boring motherfucker
Honestly, given the time period I’d guess his identity would be bound more to commonwealth than a singular nation.
Everyone is arguing whether he was polish or lithuanian, but no one points out, how Russia and Belarus write that he was belorussian (which is complete bullshit, of course)
I mean… Like anybody west of Poland would know who the hell that is?
Welcome to Russian moment
Nice
Adam Mickiewicz was actually Pakistani 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰
How comes Belarus is not “no data”?