Former MSNBC anchor Joy Reid outlined what she described as a “MAGA fairytale” that Vice President JD Vance would need to follow to win the full support of President Donald Trump’s most loyal supporters in a potential 2028 presidential bid.

While speaking on the “I’ve Had It” podcast Tuesday, Reid said that Vance has a “problem” if he decides to run, accusing the MAGA base of being “fundamentally racist.”

“I know people don’t like it when you say it, but it’s the emergence from the Tea Party to MAGA,” Reid said. “Tea Party, when you finally did the actual data… the thing that most motivated them was race and hatred of non-white immigrants. What most motivates MAGA? Hatred and non-white immigrants.”

Reid went on to say that a successor to MAGA “can’t be the guy with the brown Hindu wife.”

“That’s why he’s throwing his wife under the bus,” Reid said. “Poor Usha. Or she’s in on it, right.”

Jennifer Welch, an actress and co-host of the podcast, then pointed to Vance’s viral hug with Erika Kirk, the widow of the late conservative activist who is now the CEO of his organization, Turning Point USA.

“Holding on the back of his head, and rubbing on his head,” Reid replied, later adding, “You’re supposed to be a widow. You in leather pants?”

“Wouldn’t it be the most perfect fairytale, MAGA fairytale, if he finally sees the light that he needs a white queen instead of this brown Hindu,” Reid continued. “I’m not saying that’s happening. Or maybe that Usha’s not even in on it.”

During a Megyn Kelly Live event on Saturday, Kirk addressed online speculation of the embrace, which took place when Vance was a guest at a Turning Point USA tour stop last month. At the time, Kirk told the crowd that “no one will ever replace my husband,” emphasizing that she does “see some similarities” between the vice president and him.

“My love language is touch, if you will,” Kirk said. “So I will give you a play-by-play: They just played the emotional video. I’m walking over, he’s walking over. I’m starting to cry.”

“He says, ‘He’s so proud of you.’ And I say, ‘God bless you,’ and I touched the back of his head,” she added. “Anyone who I have hugged, that I have touched the back of your head when I hug you, I always say, ‘God bless you.’ That’s just me — if you want to take that out of context, go ahead.”

Kelly, a former Fox News host, chimed in, “They were acting like you touched the back of his ass,” to which Kirk responded: “I feel like I wouldn’t get as much hate if I did that.”

During the event, Kirk said her organization’s efforts to support a 2028 campaign from Vance is “in the works.” The vice president said earlier this month he has thought about “what that moment might look like” after the 2026 midterms, noting he will talk to Trump about the prospect down the line.

“Whenever I think about that, I try to put it out of my head and remind myself the American people elected me to do a job, right now, and my job is to do it,” Vance told Fox News.

Reid said that Donald Trump Jr., one of the president’s sons, could also be a top contender in the future Republican primary, as well as former Fox News host Tucker Carlson and white nationalist Nick Fuentes.