The Bengal Famine preceded her accession by only a few years
Dirty tramp like her kiddy diddler descendants. Rot in pieces.
Why is this myth that Victoria had power to stop donations coming in still circulating? Is there literally any proof that she stopped donations?
From more research the only place I’ve seen the origin of this story comes from a Wikipedia article of all things. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland–Turkey_relations. It seems the story came from an unsourced claim in a book about Robert Peel and then again from literal hearsay? You couldn’t take this as historical fact surely?
The facts are that Victoria was a naive 26-year-old who relied enormously on her ministers at the time.
It reminds to be discovered what she really thought and how much pressure could she actually wield on the new-Whig government of Lord Russell. The Bedchamber Crisis of 1841 was still on her mind (a minor constitutional crisis in which Victoria continued to have ladies-in-waiting from the losing side of the 1841 election. Peel refused to become PM).
Victoria did show sympathy to our plight in letters to her uncle, Leopold, King of the Belgians, for example. She also condemned the landlord system; she helped to contribute to a relief fund which raised over £ 300,000.
I have yet to discover how Prince Albert, her husband, felt about the Famine.
Are there any quality reads on this topic?
The figures in my history book in school were 1 million deaths and 1 million more emigrated. That 3 million figure seems way off, no?
describes it well with actual details of what happened.
Victoria was notoriously out of touch. Even the current lot are more clued in with reality than she was. I don’t mean to excuse the impact of her “donation ban”, but there’s numerous stories of her trip to Ireland that belay a complete ignorance of the poverty of the country she was visiting.
Behind The Bastards did a very good three part podcast about The Famine and about how it wasn’t a famine at all but a genocide if anyone is interested.
They always big up Queen Vic and since I was about 6 years old my opinion of her seeming like a miserable cunt has not just remained but been galvanised by any account I’ve heard of her wretched life and way of going about it
The Irish History Podcast did a huge series on the famine if anyone is interested in learning more.
It gives interesting insight into different peoples lives. Really worth the time if you wanted more info.
Question, was it the queen’s, parliament, or both of their faults, because I’ve heard equal blame on both
She presided over the famine in Ireland..she was the top dog..if she really wanted the British government to do more she easily could she done so..but she didn’t..she didn’t give a fuck end of story
I think we need to build ourselves a bridge and get over it. Ancient history by now.
That statue outside Belfast city hall needs ripped down.
If the hat fits… When Victoria took the throne we had 8 million and when she died we had less than 4 million… one of the people who coined this label started as a royal darling and ended as a nationalist , Maud Gonne.
James Joyce, one of the greatest writers of the English language called her “The auld bitch”. Well, her statue anyway, that remained on the Lenister House lawn, so we shipped her to the other side of the earth on [permanent loan to Sidney](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Queen_Victoria,_Sydney).
Can anyone recommend any good books about the famine? Not the Tim Pat Coogan one of course but something by a historian.
Long live Eire, fuck Victoria
I still find it unbelievably hard to stomach that we have streets and places named after this woman (and other Brits that have been less than kind to us in the past).
I don’t want to erase history, so we can put up a plaque with an explanation and then change the names of these places to Irish people who are worthy of remembrance. This should have been done yesterday.
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Tasty necklace.
Elizabeth is lucky.
The Bengal Famine preceded her accession by only a few years
Dirty tramp like her kiddy diddler descendants. Rot in pieces.
Why is this myth that Victoria had power to stop donations coming in still circulating? Is there literally any proof that she stopped donations?
From more research the only place I’ve seen the origin of this story comes from a Wikipedia article of all things. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland–Turkey_relations. It seems the story came from an unsourced claim in a book about Robert Peel and then again from literal hearsay? You couldn’t take this as historical fact surely?
The facts are that Victoria was a naive 26-year-old who relied enormously on her ministers at the time.
It reminds to be discovered what she really thought and how much pressure could she actually wield on the new-Whig government of Lord Russell. The Bedchamber Crisis of 1841 was still on her mind (a minor constitutional crisis in which Victoria continued to have ladies-in-waiting from the losing side of the 1841 election. Peel refused to become PM).
Victoria did show sympathy to our plight in letters to her uncle, Leopold, King of the Belgians, for example. She also condemned the landlord system; she helped to contribute to a relief fund which raised over £ 300,000.
I have yet to discover how Prince Albert, her husband, felt about the Famine.
Are there any quality reads on this topic?
The figures in my history book in school were 1 million deaths and 1 million more emigrated. That 3 million figure seems way off, no?
Will this butthurt ever end?
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/kwvmwm/it_is_known_that_during_the_irish_famine_the/
describes it well with actual details of what happened.
Victoria was notoriously out of touch. Even the current lot are more clued in with reality than she was. I don’t mean to excuse the impact of her “donation ban”, but there’s numerous stories of her trip to Ireland that belay a complete ignorance of the poverty of the country she was visiting.
Behind The Bastards did a very good three part podcast about The Famine and about how it wasn’t a famine at all but a genocide if anyone is interested.
They always big up Queen Vic and since I was about 6 years old my opinion of her seeming like a miserable cunt has not just remained but been galvanised by any account I’ve heard of her wretched life and way of going about it
The Irish History Podcast did a huge series on the famine if anyone is interested in learning more.
It gives interesting insight into different peoples lives. Really worth the time if you wanted more info.
Question, was it the queen’s, parliament, or both of their faults, because I’ve heard equal blame on both
[This song](https://youtu.be/BKH1vbl1b1g) will explain it
Shes been dead 121 years. Its a bit late
Isn’t this one of those invented myths?
She presided over the famine in Ireland..she was the top dog..if she really wanted the British government to do more she easily could she done so..but she didn’t..she didn’t give a fuck end of story
I think we need to build ourselves a bridge and get over it. Ancient history by now.
That statue outside Belfast city hall needs ripped down.
If the hat fits… When Victoria took the throne we had 8 million and when she died we had less than 4 million… one of the people who coined this label started as a royal darling and ended as a nationalist , Maud Gonne.
James Joyce, one of the greatest writers of the English language called her “The auld bitch”. Well, her statue anyway, that remained on the Lenister House lawn, so we shipped her to the other side of the earth on [permanent loan to Sidney](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Queen_Victoria,_Sydney).
Can anyone recommend any good books about the famine? Not the Tim Pat Coogan one of course but something by a historian.
Long live Eire, fuck Victoria
I still find it unbelievably hard to stomach that we have streets and places named after this woman (and other Brits that have been less than kind to us in the past).
I don’t want to erase history, so we can put up a plaque with an explanation and then change the names of these places to Irish people who are worthy of remembrance. This should have been done yesterday.