Better off on benefits under Labour: Salary of £71,000 needed to match handouts haul for bigger families after two-child cap ditched, says think-tank
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15339163/Chancellor-benefits-Labour-salary-handouts-two-child-cap-Budget.html
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“Think-tank”
Daily mail would not know a thinker if they bit them on the bum
What “think tank”? IEA by any chance? the hooray for liz truss think tank? The oil and tobacco funded scum bags, that think tank?
Damn I just out earn someone on benefits. Today is a great day.
Why are people focusing on discrediting the think tank? I don’t care who they are if the numbers add up.
And if they do, then that’s outrageous!
Dont fall for the hype. The problem is those in power and making the rules. And the media pushing it.
Cue downvotes.
A few more years and we will all be jobless from ai and robots anyway at the rate we are going.
Dunno, I’m on slightly more than that quoted salary but I feel poor AF…
I’m pulling in an extra 48 hours a month overtime to meet that pay packet so I don’t see my family as much. My car died last night too and I’m likely to get another banger.
I get those think tanks are trying to cause divide but it still feels pretty bad to think about.
Daily Mail: “Birth rate crisis as British couples fail to have enough kids”
Also Daily Mail: “Bloody handouts to families having kids!”
Note that the ‘equivalent’ family on benefits is one with at least 1 disabled household member so they receive additional benefits.
So it’s not comparing like for like.
Why? Because it makes it look like those who work are being cheated or slighted.
And lets be honest, those who work on NLW are being cheated/slighted.
Not by those on benefits, but by the rich and corporations.
Why has the UK normalized people not working? No wonder the country is poor and hopeless
They keep comparing ‘working people with no children or disabilities ‘ with ‘non working parents with multiple children, at least one of whom is disabled ‘. This deliberately ignores what working people with kids would get.
I honestly think I would be better off on benefits, some of my neighbours seem to be able to afford a lot more than me when all they do is smoke weed and drink all day whilst I work hard to provide for my family.
Dailymail.co.uk. angering old people with lies since before the Internet.
Not much thinking going on in that think tank is there
“why do we send money abroad, we should help our own!… No! Not like that!”
The benefit numbers are for 2 parents in wheelchairs dying from cancer including their social housing rent payment.
The salary numbers are for part timers.
Presumably the daily heil (on the wrong side of history for 80years and counting) has found an uncommon extreme scenario and then compared things to that. Are we going to be back to the good old days of demonising people on benefits.
Since there seems to be a negative correlation of income against likelihood of voting reform I should think they are demonising their key demographic.
The Daily Mail genuinely needs shutting down. It is horrendously divisive and full of shit.
Do I think benefits system is overly generous and unfair to most people who work and don’t try to play the benefits game? Yes.
Do I believe this headline? Abso-fucking-lutely not. I’m sure I could come up with a method that would make a £100.000 income be not sufficient.
Also, as usual, scapegoating benefits takers, but not a single word about billion dollar corporations not paying adequate tax. I’d hope we are better than falling for obvious propaganda.
Why are we all falling for classic government tactics where we blame all the poor people? Same tactics being used for centuries and yet we are still dumb enough to take the bait
They picked the rarest example possible 3–4 kids, no work, max UC, max rent. That’s statistically not going to be the case for most if not all families. The average UC award is about £10k — nowhere near the figures in the article.
Benefits need reforming but the example posted is over the top and takes away from any proper debate on benefits.
They must have really dug down in the statistics or found and found unicorn to quote these figures.
The state pension is the largest single benefit by a huge distance.
If the Mail wanted to find somewhere to make savings, that’s where to look. Of course, that might not sit well with their core readership.
Yeah, you had me at dailyfail
Propaganda at it’s best, these figures are so way off it’s insulting to the British Public.
Taking the absolute worst case scenario of benefit claimants with a large family with disabilities, living in an expensive area, then compare it to a single worker on minimum wage is like comparing apples and oranges. Surely it is better to compare averages. The average family on UC takes £860 in universal credit with the rest topped up with the families income (if working) compared with the average family household income of £55,200 (surly that must be higher?) for the whole population.
Says far right ‘think tank’ in far right paper, charged with making sure we don’t look at the wealthy and focus on the poor.
Eff em.
Okay I’ll bite
Misleading headline, aren’t they all.
Having kids in poverty, no thanks.
My issue? Keep telling us there is a black hole and raising taxes, but then changing this which costs money. Do it in a couple of years when you’ve fixed the black hole then.
Ok. I’ll bite. I’ve worked hard since about age 15, got to this salary figure and now seen this…
I know friends on UC who are earning less.
What’s the point of the article? To hack people off?
One thing I do agree on is an upper limit
All the “but but” apologists on here missing the point that this budget sets a terrible template and theme for the country
Stop looking down for people milking the system. Look up. Big corporations are getting way more money from taxpayers than people who depend on benefits to survive.
Is this after tax or before?
“hand outs haul” lol.
The problem has since atleast 2008 and always will be until we fix a multitude of issues.. stagnating wages, especially for professionals. Graduate salaries is very telling for this let alone all other job types.
The numbers in this article simply don’t add up. It’s misleading to make the typical working English hate on the poor. A story as old as time. My fellow indigenous English, go walk around a council estate and talk to people. You’ll find no sense of community or youth clubs. These places just breed deprivation and if you think a bit of money is going to fix this monumental issue. You’re more out of touch than this current government.
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