actually its pretty easy to swallow if you have a functioning brain
That’s a bit dated, it’s all about how hungry children are vile little scroungers who should have been aborted now
The UK also has one of the worst drinking and drug problems amongst teens and adults which ultimately ends with them being in hospital on top of the growing crime rate in every city because every little boy now wants to be a road man so is walking around with a knife..
Fair, BUT i think the addition of the immigrants has only made things a lot worse.
All fair issues to raise but doesn’t make the illegal immigrants coming over via boats housing issue – which is costing an estimated 15bn compared to the projected 4bn as stated by the Home Office – no less real
It’s obvious Tatcher ruined the uk economy. Increased taxes during recession which caused business to close and sold council homes meaning private landlords increase rent. Plus transitioning towards financial based economy around the rich in London.
If the Uk taxed the rich and put that money into the other counties and funded small business, then the economy and country would be better
The way council homes were sold was bad policy for various reasons but it’s not like they were sold to Martians who beamed them off planet. The net impact on the housing supply is 0, people still live in them. Not having sold them would probably mean lower housing benefit costs to councils and more availability for people eligible for social housing, but higher rents and purchase costs for private tenants and homeowners among those not eligible or who want to buy not rent.
Aging population but it’s so bloody expensive having kids.
This is quite easy to swallow tbh if you actually use critical thinking skills for more than 7 seconds
Thatcher was followed by 13 years of Labour government. If it was so obvious why didn’t they fix it?
To add to this welfare as a percent of GDP hasnt really changed in 30 odd years. Do you know what has? Pensions.
Both can be true
I cant wait to read all the posh thatcher shaggers coming out in the comments
How many council houses were built during the Blair/Brown years? For all of Angela Rayners talk of 1.5 million homes up to 2030 this year’s total is projected to be 10,000 less than under the last year the Tories were in power. How many social homes were built in London last year Thatcher isn’t in power no good blaming her.
And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
Yes Thatcher sold council houses to the occupants but are you seriously saying adding 11 million immigrants since 1990 (another two scotlands) isnt an issue of quality of living standards you are absolutely delusional.
Didn’t those 2 million council homes that were sold get bought by UK citizens, who now live in them and pay taxes on them? Trying to figure out if overall a good thing in the long run, because if they are being used and creating $$ form the government, instead of the government constantly spending on them, wouldn’t that be a win for the long run.
Now, lack of construction of new housing is a completely different story. As a builder myself on a smaller level, the amount of bullshit you have to deal with can take years to break ground on a project, so this slows the construction of new housing and raises the cost of it.
Perhaps controversial, but I don’t think the selling of council houses was in any way bad, just the not building enough new ones, that would be true even if none were ever sold. Letting people buy the houses they had lived in for a generation was probably one of the few things Thatcher did that was good for the working class.
Add to that:
– there was a pandemic which had significant mental health impact.
– there are wars and tensions rising
– inflationary pressure to everyone.
Selling council houses doesn’t reduce the housing stock.
Immigrants don’t cause housing crisis but they don’t help the situation either do they?
I think a country is a bit like one of those massive oil tankers in that it’s extremely slow to turn/change direction. That’s why we are still feeling the effects of policies instituted by Thatcher, who as a progenitor of neoliberalism, I see as a hugely damaging figure in British history. I could explain why but it would be an extremely long and boring post lol.
It’s also why I’ll never understand the desire for a reform government when you step back from all the noise and think about it a little. It would be utterly disastrous – a huge price to pay for decades to come as a price for them possibly, maybe reducing immigration somewhat (ultimately farage is a neoliberal as well just in a more reactionary form – and thus is subject to the same internal logic as the current crop of venal swine that are our elected officials.) Just look over the pond, anyone who wants that fucking idiocy here, irrespective of how they feel about mass immigration needs to give their head a wobble imho!
And the population voted for it
Defo started the downward spiral however every gov in since have had the power to turn it round 🙄
This will come as a surprise to nobody but I’ve worked across the NHS estate and can comfortably say that people living longer is the number one ‘drain’ on the service. There is also a colossal substance abuse/MH crossover demographic which is not acknowledged.
Bro they took all the delivroo jobs that everyone wanted
You are a moron if you genuinely believe adding 1 million people per year hasn’t had an impact. Jesus Christ.
And when labour was in power 97-2010, they didn’t do anything about it so they could keep complaining indefinitely about it
Reminder to all western countries that any anti-immigration content you see originates from or was likely influenced somewhere down the line by Russia’s efforts to destroy the west from the inside. There’s a reason that their army is so dogshit in Ukraine, the real war they are spending money on and banking on winning is the information war they are waging.
Aren’t many of the staff in the NHS immigrants? American here so CMIIW.
About 90% of the problems we have today were seeded in the 80s, but the Tarquins and Olivias of Englandshire who were born in the late 90s will still blame ‘Liebour’.
The average British person is also very unhealthy, we just don’t realise it because it’s common. I lived in the US which had a much healthier relationship with alcohol although they have other health problems obviously but alcohol contributes to that bleak haggard look people can have and a myriad of health problems that start to affect people really young. Also I’ll agree that immigrants aren’t to blame for the job market but a lot of the people that say this have jobs that they know are too skilled to be competed for by asylum seekers and low skill immigrants. Again, they aren’t the reason for the job market being so bad but I find it interesting who is so adamant about it.
THISSSS!!!
Wouldn’t a worlds leading aging population be somewhat attributed to a good NHS over the years? So then why would somebody push to GET RID OF THAT? That’s like asking to not live as long
What is killing our country is the level of bearucracy it takes to do anything.
1.4 billion *IN PLANNING* for a tunnel.
Norway built the world’s longest tunnel.Start to finish 840 million euros.
Think how much cheaper energy housing amongst other would be so much cheaper if it was like any other country.
Thatcher left office 35 years ago, seems like someone should’ve done something in the meantime.
Am I stupid or can the problem of the NHS being stretched and pressured not just be solved by, idk, putting more investments into it? Will people really kick off that much at that being where their money goes?
Country is buying new nuclear bombs they don’t need and can’t afford and can’t figure out why they can’t afford to keep the lights on.
You’ve got money to start a war, but not to feed your own people – but hey you get a “special relationship” out of it right
Some regarded family member just sent me a video of that Sargon of Arkkard or whatever the fuck his name is taking about how immigrants, “straight off the boat” are getting £70k a year in benefits… People have really lost their fucking minds believing shit like that.Â
Aaaand many retired expats had to come home thanks to losing medical coverage in EU countries.
I’m reading so many comments where people are slagging off the older generation (pensioners)
Making out they are making all these comments about the younger generation! Wow! Seriously are you all just making shit up?
I’m not seeing any kindness, this is what’s lacking in this country!
Maybe just think, really think before u post comments!
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actually its pretty easy to swallow if you have a functioning brain
That’s a bit dated, it’s all about how hungry children are vile little scroungers who should have been aborted now
The UK also has one of the worst drinking and drug problems amongst teens and adults which ultimately ends with them being in hospital on top of the growing crime rate in every city because every little boy now wants to be a road man so is walking around with a knife..
Fair, BUT i think the addition of the immigrants has only made things a lot worse.
All fair issues to raise but doesn’t make the illegal immigrants coming over via boats housing issue – which is costing an estimated 15bn compared to the projected 4bn as stated by the Home Office – no less real
It’s obvious Tatcher ruined the uk economy. Increased taxes during recession which caused business to close and sold council homes meaning private landlords increase rent. Plus transitioning towards financial based economy around the rich in London.
If the Uk taxed the rich and put that money into the other counties and funded small business, then the economy and country would be better
The way council homes were sold was bad policy for various reasons but it’s not like they were sold to Martians who beamed them off planet. The net impact on the housing supply is 0, people still live in them. Not having sold them would probably mean lower housing benefit costs to councils and more availability for people eligible for social housing, but higher rents and purchase costs for private tenants and homeowners among those not eligible or who want to buy not rent.
Aging population but it’s so bloody expensive having kids.
This is quite easy to swallow tbh if you actually use critical thinking skills for more than 7 seconds
Thatcher was followed by 13 years of Labour government. If it was so obvious why didn’t they fix it?
To add to this welfare as a percent of GDP hasnt really changed in 30 odd years. Do you know what has? Pensions.
Both can be true
I cant wait to read all the posh thatcher shaggers coming out in the comments
How many council houses were built during the Blair/Brown years? For all of Angela Rayners talk of 1.5 million homes up to 2030 this year’s total is projected to be 10,000 less than under the last year the Tories were in power. How many social homes were built in London last year Thatcher isn’t in power no good blaming her.
And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
Yes Thatcher sold council houses to the occupants but are you seriously saying adding 11 million immigrants since 1990 (another two scotlands) isnt an issue of quality of living standards you are absolutely delusional.
Didn’t those 2 million council homes that were sold get bought by UK citizens, who now live in them and pay taxes on them? Trying to figure out if overall a good thing in the long run, because if they are being used and creating $$ form the government, instead of the government constantly spending on them, wouldn’t that be a win for the long run.
Now, lack of construction of new housing is a completely different story. As a builder myself on a smaller level, the amount of bullshit you have to deal with can take years to break ground on a project, so this slows the construction of new housing and raises the cost of it.
Perhaps controversial, but I don’t think the selling of council houses was in any way bad, just the not building enough new ones, that would be true even if none were ever sold. Letting people buy the houses they had lived in for a generation was probably one of the few things Thatcher did that was good for the working class.
Add to that:
– there was a pandemic which had significant mental health impact.
– there are wars and tensions rising
– inflationary pressure to everyone.
Selling council houses doesn’t reduce the housing stock.
Immigrants don’t cause housing crisis but they don’t help the situation either do they?
I think a country is a bit like one of those massive oil tankers in that it’s extremely slow to turn/change direction. That’s why we are still feeling the effects of policies instituted by Thatcher, who as a progenitor of neoliberalism, I see as a hugely damaging figure in British history. I could explain why but it would be an extremely long and boring post lol.
It’s also why I’ll never understand the desire for a reform government when you step back from all the noise and think about it a little. It would be utterly disastrous – a huge price to pay for decades to come as a price for them possibly, maybe reducing immigration somewhat (ultimately farage is a neoliberal as well just in a more reactionary form – and thus is subject to the same internal logic as the current crop of venal swine that are our elected officials.) Just look over the pond, anyone who wants that fucking idiocy here, irrespective of how they feel about mass immigration needs to give their head a wobble imho!
And the population voted for it
Defo started the downward spiral however every gov in since have had the power to turn it round 🙄
This will come as a surprise to nobody but I’ve worked across the NHS estate and can comfortably say that people living longer is the number one ‘drain’ on the service. There is also a colossal substance abuse/MH crossover demographic which is not acknowledged.
Bro they took all the delivroo jobs that everyone wanted
You are a moron if you genuinely believe adding 1 million people per year hasn’t had an impact. Jesus Christ.
And when labour was in power 97-2010, they didn’t do anything about it so they could keep complaining indefinitely about it
Reminder to all western countries that any anti-immigration content you see originates from or was likely influenced somewhere down the line by Russia’s efforts to destroy the west from the inside. There’s a reason that their army is so dogshit in Ukraine, the real war they are spending money on and banking on winning is the information war they are waging.
Aren’t many of the staff in the NHS immigrants? American here so CMIIW.
About 90% of the problems we have today were seeded in the 80s, but the Tarquins and Olivias of Englandshire who were born in the late 90s will still blame ‘Liebour’.
The average British person is also very unhealthy, we just don’t realise it because it’s common. I lived in the US which had a much healthier relationship with alcohol although they have other health problems obviously but alcohol contributes to that bleak haggard look people can have and a myriad of health problems that start to affect people really young. Also I’ll agree that immigrants aren’t to blame for the job market but a lot of the people that say this have jobs that they know are too skilled to be competed for by asylum seekers and low skill immigrants. Again, they aren’t the reason for the job market being so bad but I find it interesting who is so adamant about it.
THISSSS!!!
Wouldn’t a worlds leading aging population be somewhat attributed to a good NHS over the years? So then why would somebody push to GET RID OF THAT? That’s like asking to not live as long
What is killing our country is the level of bearucracy it takes to do anything.
1.4 billion *IN PLANNING* for a tunnel.
Norway built the world’s longest tunnel.Start to finish 840 million euros.
Think how much cheaper energy housing amongst other would be so much cheaper if it was like any other country.
Thatcher left office 35 years ago, seems like someone should’ve done something in the meantime.
Am I stupid or can the problem of the NHS being stretched and pressured not just be solved by, idk, putting more investments into it? Will people really kick off that much at that being where their money goes?
Country is buying new nuclear bombs they don’t need and can’t afford and can’t figure out why they can’t afford to keep the lights on.
You’ve got money to start a war, but not to feed your own people – but hey you get a “special relationship” out of it right
Some regarded family member just sent me a video of that Sargon of Arkkard or whatever the fuck his name is taking about how immigrants, “straight off the boat” are getting £70k a year in benefits… People have really lost their fucking minds believing shit like that.Â
Aaaand many retired expats had to come home thanks to losing medical coverage in EU countries.
I’m reading so many comments where people are slagging off the older generation (pensioners)
Making out they are making all these comments about the younger generation! Wow! Seriously are you all just making shit up?
I’m not seeing any kindness, this is what’s lacking in this country!
Maybe just think, really think before u post comments!
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