Over 2 million people have signed a petition calling for a general election.
That’s what happens when you have lots of very unbiased newspapers that are definitely not run by Tories
You built your algo to ragebait you? you need to cleanse it.
Time to spend 2 days liking and sharing frog tiktoks.
They didn’t do nothing. It just what they did was a steaming pile of crap that made everything worse, unless you were a very rich friend of theirs
You’re making the mistake of thinking that everyone who points out what a shit job Labour are doing is a Tory supporter.
the tories ever promised to make life better for everyday people , can’t be mad really
The problem is building houses has a goal: bring down house prices, which has faster solutions like rent control. What’s the benefit of the slower option?
This page is insufferable. It goes further than the previous Tory Government, in fact both rosette colours are to blame, so take your fucking blinkers off.
Both parties are a bag of shit.
Imma be honest. I’m getting bored of tribalism.
I’m left wing, and in my view, the current government isn’t doing a great job, part of that is the massive PR problem. Some of that is self inflicted, and the rest is from an unfriendly media landscape mixed with unrealistic expectations from people supporting different things.
We all agree there needs to be systemic change, even if we all disagree what form that takes. I’m not going to sit here and argue what I feel that should be, one because I’m not going to pretend I know it all, and two because I genuinely can’t be arsed to have an argument. Point is, any massive change takes a long time to implement, and is liable to change course as time goes on.
The impact of the previous government’s changes (2010 onwards) didn’t fully appear until some time after. Clearly the thinking was that cuts would hurt and growth would follow, offsetting any detriment – which didn’t happen, and we can all sit here and argue the toss over why, but the long and short of it is that the new government was put in a worse position at the start than the previous one.
Not least because of the foolhardy decision to cut NI, despite the OBR making it very clear that it was a dumb idea (yes, I did benefit from the larger pay packet, but my personal problem wasn’t with how much tax I was paying, but how it was being used – and that still remains the case) .
To those with eyes, it was clear as day that a lot of unpopular and unpleasant decisions were going to be made. I want to be clear though, that this doesn’t mean I’m defending the decision to <insert tax rise or benefits cut here>; nor proclaiming support, but outlining the logic driving things here.
It was never, ever, going to be sunshine and rainbows the moment Sunak left No10, and I guarantee that as and when this government gets replaced (by whomever it will be) the same thing will apply.
Tories are irrelevant, let them die
We dont need a million new homes. We need less people. If you are ‘left wing’ you should care about the environment right? so why encourage immigration and large families, so more green spaces and wildlife habitat gets built on? makes no sense to me.
and the BBC give Reform an excessive amount of coverage solely on the basis of a deeply flawed, heavily criticised opinion poll on voting intentions.
“We’re not going to raise taxes, we’re going to freeze council tax”
Shock, money wins elections.
The press has no side despite many thinking it favours the Tories, it’s whichever party has the biggest “war purse” to run campaigns that pay the press.
be fair though, the tories didnt do nothing. they overspent on pointless stuff and underfunded necessities. lied about the state of the economy to eek out a few more months before collapse, so they could rake in as much of our money as possible to give to their friends. they manipulated public anger to make us leave the eu, regardless of what people actually wanted. they laughed off scandal after scandal. used their own deliberate calamities to distract people when theyve been caught thieving from the public. theyve invested in countless invasions and a few wars for americas financial interests. they used a global pandemic the siphon off a load more of our money to give the their friends, not to mention how badly they handled the situation. and loads more that i cant be bothered to remember or write down because theyve made my life too busy to sit around discussing it.
Actually funny
The country is cooked. My mum yesterday told me she’s voting for Reform to prevent the oncoming genocide on Christians by Muslims. She genuinely believes that’s happening and that Farage is the one to save us.
We’re fucked and I’ve given up hoping for better.
I’m pretty sure there are much bigger issues people have with labour than slow housing. Just a hunch.
It’s depressing seeing the blatant bias in the newspapers. It’s ridiculous, but still depressing.
Maybe legacy media, but I’m sure people on TikTok have been complaining about the Tories since the beginning of time. People seem surprised that the UK isn’t swimming in cash just a year after Labour got in. The Tories spent well over a decade trashing the place, and it’ll take AT LEAST that amount of time just to undo it – time that people don’t have the patiece for in a cost of living crisis.
People aren’t ready to hear that problems like housing are much more complex to solve than a simple one liner you hear on social media might suggest. It’s easy to say “just do X” when you aren’t the one who actually has the responsibility to deal with everything associated with that proposed solution.
I agree but labour aren’t doing themselves any favours by currently pivoting to the kinda of people that have these stupid opinions.
I love how the Tories were in power for nearly 15 years and spent the entire time blaming Labour for the problems.
And at the end of 15 years they were still blaming them.
15 years and you fixed fuck all? No wonder the country abandoned the Tories.
But Labour gets 2 years to take a crack and no matter what they do they’re fucked, because they don’t have the support of the nonce-baiting rags like the Sun and the Mail, so there’s a bullshit narrative magnifying every mistake, and they are literally still trying to fix all the things the Tories made even worse in their 15 years.
I hate British politics, because it’s either Tories or Nonce-Reform crying for sympathy and achieving backwards progress, or Labour being pilloried as incompetent when they’ve been left various shit sandwiches to work with.
Labour had 14 years in opposition and the only cabinet members to draw up any plans were Ed Miliband and Angela Raynor. The renters’ and employers’ rights acts were Raynor’s and poor Ed Miliband – the only competent one left – has had his brief changed so much I’m beginning to feel sorry for him.
Lord Maurice Glasman said on Newsnight a few weeks ago that they’d spent the last five years purging the left from the party and they expected to have more time to draw up policy.
Not building enough houses is a fair criticism of Labour. 14 years in opposition and an enormous majority and they’ve done fuck all with it
We really defending ‘labour’ rigjt now? Christ. Both are scum; accept it.
I mean should we wait 14 years for the retrospective on Labour too?
The problems faced are now more urgent due to Tory inaction. There’s no contradiction here, just unfortunate to take power now.
A lot of people voted Labour hoping things would get better. But statistically it’s gotten worse. And Britain seems more divided then ever
I think a big problem is they promised to hit the ground running, but it seems they hit the ground crawling instead. Admittedly slow and steady wins the race, but in the mean time they’ve made foolish decision after foolish decision. Nothing catastrophic, but things that upset people on both sides of the political spectrum (especially their own supporters) such as the PIP changes.
The papers certainly make it seem like the state of the country is far more bleak then it really is, but I do think Starmer being as unpopular as he is shows how people feel about the government’s decisions thus far.
Sadly the worst people are always the loudest
Millions homes for who?
The tories have wrecked this country for 14 years and these morons cheered them on and voted for it. Then they wonder why everything is fucked and blame it on Labour. Not that I’m a Labour voter either.
This is what will happen when your brought in to change things and you do nothing you said would you will be out so fast then people have had enough of nothing happening most people don’t want these small changes they want big changes that’s why they voted you in and you have betrayed the trust of the people this will kill labour it’s just handing the country on a plate to reform as they will make big changes like the people want
Ex-Tory Reform voters are some of the most poisonous voices in UK politics right now.
Just a stream of negativity and unpleasantness, focused on getting Labour out at all costs and getting ‘their team’ back in.
Every problem that the Tories spent 14 years creating is now being laid at Labour’s doorstep, helped by the fact that Labour are making a horse’s arse of governing.
They don’t care that Reform don’t have policies.
They don’t care that Reform is being filled with failed Tories.
They don’t care that Reform is taking money from foreign governments.
They don’t care that Reform’s leaders brought us the failure that is Brexit.
They don’t care that Reform councils are failing wherever they get the chance of power.
They just want ‘their team’ back in.
As a person not living in Britain, the only thing I know about the Torie Government is that they loosened restrictions on a lot of things, potentially harming tens of thousands of low income people by making a new category of apartments that don’t need to follow most health and safety standards, noise standards, or daylight minimums.
This, along with loosened regulations in other fields are projected to earn conservative politicians with business in those fields, a boatload of money.
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Over 2 million people have signed a petition calling for a general election.
That’s what happens when you have lots of very unbiased newspapers that are definitely not run by Tories
You built your algo to ragebait you? you need to cleanse it.
Time to spend 2 days liking and sharing frog tiktoks.
They didn’t do nothing. It just what they did was a steaming pile of crap that made everything worse, unless you were a very rich friend of theirs
You’re making the mistake of thinking that everyone who points out what a shit job Labour are doing is a Tory supporter.
the tories ever promised to make life better for everyday people , can’t be mad really
The problem is building houses has a goal: bring down house prices, which has faster solutions like rent control. What’s the benefit of the slower option?
This page is insufferable. It goes further than the previous Tory Government, in fact both rosette colours are to blame, so take your fucking blinkers off.
Both parties are a bag of shit.
Imma be honest. I’m getting bored of tribalism.
I’m left wing, and in my view, the current government isn’t doing a great job, part of that is the massive PR problem. Some of that is self inflicted, and the rest is from an unfriendly media landscape mixed with unrealistic expectations from people supporting different things.
We all agree there needs to be systemic change, even if we all disagree what form that takes. I’m not going to sit here and argue what I feel that should be, one because I’m not going to pretend I know it all, and two because I genuinely can’t be arsed to have an argument. Point is, any massive change takes a long time to implement, and is liable to change course as time goes on.
The impact of the previous government’s changes (2010 onwards) didn’t fully appear until some time after. Clearly the thinking was that cuts would hurt and growth would follow, offsetting any detriment – which didn’t happen, and we can all sit here and argue the toss over why, but the long and short of it is that the new government was put in a worse position at the start than the previous one.
Not least because of the foolhardy decision to cut NI, despite the OBR making it very clear that it was a dumb idea (yes, I did benefit from the larger pay packet, but my personal problem wasn’t with how much tax I was paying, but how it was being used – and that still remains the case) .
To those with eyes, it was clear as day that a lot of unpopular and unpleasant decisions were going to be made. I want to be clear though, that this doesn’t mean I’m defending the decision to <insert tax rise or benefits cut here>; nor proclaiming support, but outlining the logic driving things here.
It was never, ever, going to be sunshine and rainbows the moment Sunak left No10, and I guarantee that as and when this government gets replaced (by whomever it will be) the same thing will apply.
Tories are irrelevant, let them die
We dont need a million new homes. We need less people. If you are ‘left wing’ you should care about the environment right? so why encourage immigration and large families, so more green spaces and wildlife habitat gets built on? makes no sense to me.
and the BBC give Reform an excessive amount of coverage solely on the basis of a deeply flawed, heavily criticised opinion poll on voting intentions.
“We’re not going to raise taxes, we’re going to freeze council tax”
Shock, money wins elections.
The press has no side despite many thinking it favours the Tories, it’s whichever party has the biggest “war purse” to run campaigns that pay the press.
be fair though, the tories didnt do nothing. they overspent on pointless stuff and underfunded necessities. lied about the state of the economy to eek out a few more months before collapse, so they could rake in as much of our money as possible to give to their friends. they manipulated public anger to make us leave the eu, regardless of what people actually wanted. they laughed off scandal after scandal. used their own deliberate calamities to distract people when theyve been caught thieving from the public. theyve invested in countless invasions and a few wars for americas financial interests. they used a global pandemic the siphon off a load more of our money to give the their friends, not to mention how badly they handled the situation. and loads more that i cant be bothered to remember or write down because theyve made my life too busy to sit around discussing it.
Actually funny
The country is cooked. My mum yesterday told me she’s voting for Reform to prevent the oncoming genocide on Christians by Muslims. She genuinely believes that’s happening and that Farage is the one to save us.
We’re fucked and I’ve given up hoping for better.
I’m pretty sure there are much bigger issues people have with labour than slow housing. Just a hunch.
It’s depressing seeing the blatant bias in the newspapers. It’s ridiculous, but still depressing.
Maybe legacy media, but I’m sure people on TikTok have been complaining about the Tories since the beginning of time. People seem surprised that the UK isn’t swimming in cash just a year after Labour got in. The Tories spent well over a decade trashing the place, and it’ll take AT LEAST that amount of time just to undo it – time that people don’t have the patiece for in a cost of living crisis.
People aren’t ready to hear that problems like housing are much more complex to solve than a simple one liner you hear on social media might suggest. It’s easy to say “just do X” when you aren’t the one who actually has the responsibility to deal with everything associated with that proposed solution.
I agree but labour aren’t doing themselves any favours by currently pivoting to the kinda of people that have these stupid opinions.
I love how the Tories were in power for nearly 15 years and spent the entire time blaming Labour for the problems.
And at the end of 15 years they were still blaming them.
15 years and you fixed fuck all? No wonder the country abandoned the Tories.
But Labour gets 2 years to take a crack and no matter what they do they’re fucked, because they don’t have the support of the nonce-baiting rags like the Sun and the Mail, so there’s a bullshit narrative magnifying every mistake, and they are literally still trying to fix all the things the Tories made even worse in their 15 years.
I hate British politics, because it’s either Tories or Nonce-Reform crying for sympathy and achieving backwards progress, or Labour being pilloried as incompetent when they’ve been left various shit sandwiches to work with.
Labour had 14 years in opposition and the only cabinet members to draw up any plans were Ed Miliband and Angela Raynor. The renters’ and employers’ rights acts were Raynor’s and poor Ed Miliband – the only competent one left – has had his brief changed so much I’m beginning to feel sorry for him.
Lord Maurice Glasman said on Newsnight a few weeks ago that they’d spent the last five years purging the left from the party and they expected to have more time to draw up policy.
Not building enough houses is a fair criticism of Labour. 14 years in opposition and an enormous majority and they’ve done fuck all with it
We really defending ‘labour’ rigjt now? Christ. Both are scum; accept it.
I mean should we wait 14 years for the retrospective on Labour too?
The problems faced are now more urgent due to Tory inaction. There’s no contradiction here, just unfortunate to take power now.
A lot of people voted Labour hoping things would get better. But statistically it’s gotten worse. And Britain seems more divided then ever
I think a big problem is they promised to hit the ground running, but it seems they hit the ground crawling instead. Admittedly slow and steady wins the race, but in the mean time they’ve made foolish decision after foolish decision. Nothing catastrophic, but things that upset people on both sides of the political spectrum (especially their own supporters) such as the PIP changes.
The papers certainly make it seem like the state of the country is far more bleak then it really is, but I do think Starmer being as unpopular as he is shows how people feel about the government’s decisions thus far.
Sadly the worst people are always the loudest
Millions homes for who?
The tories have wrecked this country for 14 years and these morons cheered them on and voted for it. Then they wonder why everything is fucked and blame it on Labour. Not that I’m a Labour voter either.
This is what will happen when your brought in to change things and you do nothing you said would you will be out so fast then people have had enough of nothing happening most people don’t want these small changes they want big changes that’s why they voted you in and you have betrayed the trust of the people this will kill labour it’s just handing the country on a plate to reform as they will make big changes like the people want
Ex-Tory Reform voters are some of the most poisonous voices in UK politics right now.
Just a stream of negativity and unpleasantness, focused on getting Labour out at all costs and getting ‘their team’ back in.
Every problem that the Tories spent 14 years creating is now being laid at Labour’s doorstep, helped by the fact that Labour are making a horse’s arse of governing.
They don’t care that Reform don’t have policies.
They don’t care that Reform is being filled with failed Tories.
They don’t care that Reform is taking money from foreign governments.
They don’t care that Reform’s leaders brought us the failure that is Brexit.
They don’t care that Reform councils are failing wherever they get the chance of power.
They just want ‘their team’ back in.
As a person not living in Britain, the only thing I know about the Torie Government is that they loosened restrictions on a lot of things, potentially harming tens of thousands of low income people by making a new category of apartments that don’t need to follow most health and safety standards, noise standards, or daylight minimums.
This, along with loosened regulations in other fields are projected to earn conservative politicians with business in those fields, a boatload of money.
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