Finlands finest donkey is back at it. The new plan is to eliminate all social assistance for anyone who hasnt lived here for a minimum 10 years.

Makes total sense really, the country is doing so well everyone wants to come here, population is booming and all those unemployed people are just lazy.

Notice how they havent come up with one fucking idea on how to turn things around? Even if they decided to harvest rainbows thatd at least be something.

by lukkoseppa

17 comments

  1. 10 years is a bit high requirement but otherwise a good idea

  2. Temutatcher and the right wing goverment is not trying to turn things back around. They are trying to do a 360 kickflip.

  3. While 10 years seems a bit harsh, this to me seems like good news. Cost for toimeentulotuki are way too high especially in the case of immigrants. We need to create jobs instead of letting immigrants getting in to the never ending toimeentulotuki-loop (which for people with no qualifications in Finland is rather lucrative).

  4. How does it work if I move to say sweden and come back to finland after 11 years am i not allowed unemployment benefits anymore?

  7. I see no similarity between the Finland that defeated Stalin and modern Finland. Those who govern Finland today couldn’t even beat the Red Army, let alone play Age of Empires on easy mode.

  8. Then we’re going to have lots of thefts and petty crimes in here and this place will become more unsafe. However, she should provide an active solution to this, like deporting everyone who does not meet the visa requirement of being able to support oneself.

  9. Well when we have a unprecedented boom of foreign students along with their families are we surprised?

    And there are plenty of social benefits apart from toimeentulotuki. That is the last resort if you don’t qualify for anything else.

  11. Foreign‑language speakers already make up almost 30 percent of those receiving the benefit. About 54 percent of Arabic speakers receive it, while only about 3.7 percent of Finnish and Swedish speakers do.

    We don’t have the money to be the worlds social welfare office.

  12. The amount should also be reduced for finns also. Not that you would not get it, but the amount of euros. So I support this too

  13. So slightly lower taxes for those who have lived in Finland less than 10 years, right?

  14. Is she just talking or this is a very likely outcome to be voted next year?

  15. Perussuomalaiset ratings are in the toilet so this statement might excite the “base”. Who knows she could bring more people to PS , those that are in the “shadows”.Might as well comment here, I’ve been lurking here for a while now. Immigrant myself, so here is my take. I agree with her up to a point. I agree that the welfare system particularly this issue about joblessness support should be reconsidered. I arrived here exactly 3 years ago through my spouse who was hired to work here. We both are healthcare professionals, due to differences in the education system(between our home country and Finland)we both needed to be schooled for a year and a half and learn the language in order to be licensed practitioners. In this period of time we got educational support which was very helpful to us. These included discounted transport ticket and rental support as well. It greatly helped us get through because my spouse earned only about 2k euro every month give or take. When our studies are over and we both found jobs, kela wrote us a letter telling us to give back the rent support which we happily paid back with interest. The transport support remained. The support was influential to our success to integrate into Finnish society and we are very grateful for it. In less than a year in Finland i have been working in a hospital and paying taxes, my spouse on the other hand has been working from day one her feet touched Finland soil. If support is withdrawn from newcomers, it would be very difficult to integrate. In my opinion it is still cheaper to support newcomers than to face the problem of people who cannot integrate into society later in the years. One solution I see is don’t take the supports away but make the immigrants pay it back when they can. Not sure how it works when they can’t pay it back but a guarantor might do the trick or public and private partnership, something like that. An immigrant who integrates fast to society is an additional asset to Finland. Compared to locals, Finland did not pay for most of our education, we came here already educated so that alone is a big plus to Finland. Finland should find a solution not based on feelings but based on concrete evidence or science.

  17. Seems like every solution is about getting rid / make things harder for people that end up on support, and absolutely nothing is done about why they end up on support or why they end up in the country in the first place. Meanwhile every UAS here running profitable business of inviting over thousands of students and spitting out over ten of thousands of graduates for job positions that do not exist.

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