That lead image of Khan just standing there is so weird. As for the yearly rise in fares, cue the bear shitting in the woods.
5.8 is a big jump
The fares increase but the Piccadilly Line Uxbridge branch service will remain shit.
Brutal. London screwed again although I accept investment is needed
Khaaaaan.
So the article is burying the truth of the story. TfL were forced to accept inflation +1% fare increases every year until 2030 as part of the funding negotiations during COVID when the Tories were desperate to exploit the situation to try and make Khan look bad. I’m not saying it would be impossible for Labour to undo that agreement now but as things currently stand TfL is legally commited to the fare increases.
Costs a lot of money to run the network and that’s either going to come from central funding or out of your pockets. No prizes for guessing which way this was going to go after the rhetoric on tax increases.Ā
5.8% probably seems fairish when your salary rise is also in those margins. For everyone else is it madness madness.
This is fucking ridiculous by the time my kids are twenty it will cost twenty quid to go from Russell Square to Piccadilly Circus.
More Tory “part of financial management” bollocks
The fair dodgers don’t help as they make it more expensive for us paying our way
The result of compensating tube drivers with absolutely ridiculous sums to sit in a chair and push a button all day.
Man, Covid really fucked TFL.
Also train strikes I guess.
Can’t wait for the next thread asking why people bump the trains.
How can TFL justify charging so much for the underground? Right now a short journey in one zone costs Ā£2.80 and will probably jump to Ā£2.90 or Ā£3. For example in Hong Kong or Singapore even the longest journeys cost around Ā£1. How can they justify this price gouging?
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Itās crazy how expensive TFL is compared to other countries. Was just in NYC and itās a flat fare wherever you go with a cap per day. It costs me Ā£10 a day to go from zone 4 to zone 1. Not a huge deal for me but if youāre expecting people on minimum wage to pay that just to get to work itās ridiculous.
Of course
Tube is becoming more of an occasional luxury now compared to the bus. The 1 hour hopper fare is a great deal.
And then they wonder why there are so many fare evaders
When Andreas Papandreou became the PM of the 1st socialist government in Greek history in 1981, he deemed that public transport was mainly used by workers getting to work in the early mornings, and made public transport either free or heavily subsidised, I can’t remember, until a certain time later, like 08.30 or something. Here it is the workers that seem to get screwed, as fares become cheaper after the rush hours.
ANd people wonder why we stick to our cars. Fuck this country
How do you think hundred grand tube drivers get paid?
Tfl prices are already insanely expensive. I avoid going out because its Ā£8 to travel 6 miles and back. It’s Ā£16 for me to go into central London. Great job helping young people š
I ended up being priced out of the tube. When I was on minimum wage last year after losing my job and needing any job just to pay the bills.
I couldn’t afford to get the tube to work which was insane.
I had to bike everywhere not out of choice but out of poverty
this is actually ridiculous. whatās the point of increasing the fares when the service isnāt working properly most times in the week/month? make it make sense.
i wonder how much advertising prices have gone up over the years and how much tfl makes from them? also the yearly workers strike demanding more money for pushing a button dont help
āFair?ā Weāll see whether London voters feel that the government treats them fairly or takes them for granted in the next council elections. Apparently there are 59 Labour MPs in London, I would imagine most of them wouldnāt be cheering the scale of this increase.
It appears that the government and other relevant bodies are now able to act with considerable freedom, largely because public protest in England has become increasingly uncommon. Income tax is rising, national insurance contributions are increasing, and energy costs continue to escalate, alongside a number of other pressures I have not mentioned. Oh yes, and that absolute trainwreck of a story regarding the Thames Water situation. Also, a significant number of pubs are expected to close following the recent budget announcement, yet the general public seems largely resigned to all of these developments. It seems far easier for people to tolerate the situation and express their dissatisfaction through brief online comments – much as I am doing now, unfortunately.
I am genuinely considering leaving England altogether, or at least relocating outside the London area, as the cost of living here is becoming increasingly unsustainable.
Between 23 and 38% of the TFL budget is salaries. Every other year the tube drivers go on strike and the benefits get padded, salaries go up, hours go down (so more OT). Many tube drivers on Ā£100k+ when you include salaries and benefits.
This is why fares must increase like they do.
Next time R/London is lauding these tube strikes, remember this is the result
“He said this requirement ā which requires above-inflation fare rises every year until the end of the decade ā was ānot unreasonableā and was āfairā.”
Lol. Lmao even. All this for a worthless DLR extension, not even new trains or Crossrail 2. It’s time he’s substituted with someone with a stronger voice for infrastructure and public transport.
What about inflation! Surly it’s governments job to keep these _unts in check?!
you keep voting the same people and you expect things to change?
It was expected. We still want to be no.1 for most expensive transport in the world. This will never end. No wonder year-by-year there are more fare dodgers. The whole system must be changed. He only froze those prices at the year of mayor election so the next fare freeze will be in 2028.
Itās ok for Sadiq khan to say itās āfairā when heās on Ā£170,282
Londoners get bloody everything š¤
And yet tube strikes still occur.
With all these insane taxes, hikes etc why is the UK even a lucrative place to be? I just cannot fathom this and previous inept governments, it’s just a farce for normal hardworking folks, such a shitshow
Means test the freedom pass
Underground is worse year by year but price is just going up . If i would at least see some improvements then I would be ok with it. Im using mostly Victoria/Picadilly and they are both dogshit. Loud asf, super overcrowded,dirty seats all the time,homeless people sleeping on all benches at stations +inside the train
Oh nice, my wage increase is 0% this year, lovely
It’s so stupid that the national government doesn’t subsidize one of the lifebloods of the entire country
i thought sadiq was doing a fare freeze?
Letās Boycott these fks.
Only in the UK does the government hate on its only capital city. It was Johnson and Sunak previously and they’ve passed the batton onto the weasel Starmer. The current idiot to reside at no.10 thinks appeasing factions of extremists within the Red Wall seats is the be all and end all.
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That lead image of Khan just standing there is so weird. As for the yearly rise in fares, cue the bear shitting in the woods.
5.8 is a big jump
The fares increase but the Piccadilly Line Uxbridge branch service will remain shit.
Brutal. London screwed again although I accept investment is needed
Khaaaaan.
So the article is burying the truth of the story. TfL were forced to accept inflation +1% fare increases every year until 2030 as part of the funding negotiations during COVID when the Tories were desperate to exploit the situation to try and make Khan look bad. I’m not saying it would be impossible for Labour to undo that agreement now but as things currently stand TfL is legally commited to the fare increases.
Costs a lot of money to run the network and that’s either going to come from central funding or out of your pockets. No prizes for guessing which way this was going to go after the rhetoric on tax increases.Ā
5.8% probably seems fairish when your salary rise is also in those margins. For everyone else is it madness madness.
This is fucking ridiculous by the time my kids are twenty it will cost twenty quid to go from Russell Square to Piccadilly Circus.
More Tory “part of financial management” bollocks
The fair dodgers don’t help as they make it more expensive for us paying our way
The result of compensating tube drivers with absolutely ridiculous sums to sit in a chair and push a button all day.
Man, Covid really fucked TFL.
Also train strikes I guess.
Can’t wait for the next thread asking why people bump the trains.
How can TFL justify charging so much for the underground? Right now a short journey in one zone costs Ā£2.80 and will probably jump to Ā£2.90 or Ā£3. For example in Hong Kong or Singapore even the longest journeys cost around Ā£1. How can they justify this price gouging?
š²Ā
Itās crazy how expensive TFL is compared to other countries. Was just in NYC and itās a flat fare wherever you go with a cap per day. It costs me Ā£10 a day to go from zone 4 to zone 1. Not a huge deal for me but if youāre expecting people on minimum wage to pay that just to get to work itās ridiculous.
Of course
Tube is becoming more of an occasional luxury now compared to the bus. The 1 hour hopper fare is a great deal.
And then they wonder why there are so many fare evaders
When Andreas Papandreou became the PM of the 1st socialist government in Greek history in 1981, he deemed that public transport was mainly used by workers getting to work in the early mornings, and made public transport either free or heavily subsidised, I can’t remember, until a certain time later, like 08.30 or something. Here it is the workers that seem to get screwed, as fares become cheaper after the rush hours.
ANd people wonder why we stick to our cars. Fuck this country
How do you think hundred grand tube drivers get paid?
Tfl prices are already insanely expensive. I avoid going out because its Ā£8 to travel 6 miles and back. It’s Ā£16 for me to go into central London. Great job helping young people š
I ended up being priced out of the tube. When I was on minimum wage last year after losing my job and needing any job just to pay the bills.
I couldn’t afford to get the tube to work which was insane.
I had to bike everywhere not out of choice but out of poverty
this is actually ridiculous. whatās the point of increasing the fares when the service isnāt working properly most times in the week/month? make it make sense.
i wonder how much advertising prices have gone up over the years and how much tfl makes from them? also the yearly workers strike demanding more money for pushing a button dont help
āFair?ā Weāll see whether London voters feel that the government treats them fairly or takes them for granted in the next council elections. Apparently there are 59 Labour MPs in London, I would imagine most of them wouldnāt be cheering the scale of this increase.
It appears that the government and other relevant bodies are now able to act with considerable freedom, largely because public protest in England has become increasingly uncommon. Income tax is rising, national insurance contributions are increasing, and energy costs continue to escalate, alongside a number of other pressures I have not mentioned. Oh yes, and that absolute trainwreck of a story regarding the Thames Water situation. Also, a significant number of pubs are expected to close following the recent budget announcement, yet the general public seems largely resigned to all of these developments. It seems far easier for people to tolerate the situation and express their dissatisfaction through brief online comments – much as I am doing now, unfortunately.
I am genuinely considering leaving England altogether, or at least relocating outside the London area, as the cost of living here is becoming increasingly unsustainable.
Between 23 and 38% of the TFL budget is salaries. Every other year the tube drivers go on strike and the benefits get padded, salaries go up, hours go down (so more OT). Many tube drivers on Ā£100k+ when you include salaries and benefits.
This is why fares must increase like they do.
Next time R/London is lauding these tube strikes, remember this is the result
“He said this requirement ā which requires above-inflation fare rises every year until the end of the decade ā was ānot unreasonableā and was āfairā.”
Lol. Lmao even. All this for a worthless DLR extension, not even new trains or Crossrail 2. It’s time he’s substituted with someone with a stronger voice for infrastructure and public transport.
What about inflation! Surly it’s governments job to keep these _unts in check?!
you keep voting the same people and you expect things to change?
It was expected. We still want to be no.1 for most expensive transport in the world. This will never end. No wonder year-by-year there are more fare dodgers. The whole system must be changed. He only froze those prices at the year of mayor election so the next fare freeze will be in 2028.
Itās ok for Sadiq khan to say itās āfairā when heās on Ā£170,282
Londoners get bloody everything š¤
And yet tube strikes still occur.
With all these insane taxes, hikes etc why is the UK even a lucrative place to be? I just cannot fathom this and previous inept governments, it’s just a farce for normal hardworking folks, such a shitshow
Means test the freedom pass
Underground is worse year by year but price is just going up . If i would at least see some improvements then I would be ok with it. Im using mostly Victoria/Picadilly and they are both dogshit. Loud asf, super overcrowded,dirty seats all the time,homeless people sleeping on all benches at stations +inside the train
Oh nice, my wage increase is 0% this year, lovely
It’s so stupid that the national government doesn’t subsidize one of the lifebloods of the entire country
i thought sadiq was doing a fare freeze?
Letās Boycott these fks.
Only in the UK does the government hate on its only capital city. It was Johnson and Sunak previously and they’ve passed the batton onto the weasel Starmer. The current idiot to reside at no.10 thinks appeasing factions of extremists within the Red Wall seats is the be all and end all.
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