Im from the EU and considered doing a masters next year in helsinki but I couldn’t even get past the first step of applying on mystudyinfo as you need a finnish bank account or ID number. I cant even imagine the hurdles for non eu applicants
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It annoys me that people predicted this exact problem 20 years ago when the translation of AMKs into “universities of applied sciences” became the norm. It’s purposefully misleading to foreign students, who’ll then spend an enormous amount of money to attend some small town second-rate school with very little educational value.
People complained, but nothing changed, since there was too much money to be made essentially scamming people.
Those who get scammed must not be very bright in general. They have access to internet, some can afford to pay up to 30k- with that kind of money in your country, what do you need Finland for? I couldn’t raise half of that sum as a native.Â
I’m not surprised at all. Universities of applied sciences (UAS) in Finland have been giving half-truth or even misleading information to non-EU applicants for at least a decade. They regularly organize entrance exams in several non-EU countries.
When I was in high school, I became interested in studying in Finland and an entrance exam was organized in my home city. During the exam, me and my friends spoke with some of the Finnish staff members, and they told us:
– In Finland, research universities and UAS are basically the same. If you are interested in research, choose research universities such as Aalto or university of Helsinki. But if you want to find jobs quickly, UAS is the right choice.
– All Finnish universities are high quality and essentially equal. The only real difference is the location. Studying in bigger cities such as Tampere or Lahti can provide you with more people, more job opportunities and warmer weather, compared to smaller and further Northern places.
– Almost everyone speaks good English in Finland, so Finnish is not required to find jobs.
When I finally came to Finland and talked to Finns, I just knew that my UAS was not considered the same in many important aspects. I also learned that Finnish students can be admitted to UAS without completing high school. They do not need the same education background as foreign applicants. This creates a real perception gap among Finnish employers and people about UAS status.
What really frustrates me is how universities act shocked in the media when partly accused of “selling false dreams”. They always shift the blame on agencies, even though they themselves participated in spreading misleading information.
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Im from the EU and considered doing a masters next year in helsinki but I couldn’t even get past the first step of applying on mystudyinfo as you need a finnish bank account or ID number. I cant even imagine the hurdles for non eu applicants
Already posted here:
 https://www.reddit.com/r/Finland/comments/1pgoppp/ylea_new_class_of_poor_people_has_been_created_in/
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It annoys me that people predicted this exact problem 20 years ago when the translation of AMKs into “universities of applied sciences” became the norm. It’s purposefully misleading to foreign students, who’ll then spend an enormous amount of money to attend some small town second-rate school with very little educational value.
People complained, but nothing changed, since there was too much money to be made essentially scamming people.
Those who get scammed must not be very bright in general. They have access to internet, some can afford to pay up to 30k- with that kind of money in your country, what do you need Finland for? I couldn’t raise half of that sum as a native.Â
I’m not surprised at all. Universities of applied sciences (UAS) in Finland have been giving half-truth or even misleading information to non-EU applicants for at least a decade. They regularly organize entrance exams in several non-EU countries.
When I was in high school, I became interested in studying in Finland and an entrance exam was organized in my home city. During the exam, me and my friends spoke with some of the Finnish staff members, and they told us:
– In Finland, research universities and UAS are basically the same. If you are interested in research, choose research universities such as Aalto or university of Helsinki. But if you want to find jobs quickly, UAS is the right choice.
– All Finnish universities are high quality and essentially equal. The only real difference is the location. Studying in bigger cities such as Tampere or Lahti can provide you with more people, more job opportunities and warmer weather, compared to smaller and further Northern places.
– Almost everyone speaks good English in Finland, so Finnish is not required to find jobs.
When I finally came to Finland and talked to Finns, I just knew that my UAS was not considered the same in many important aspects. I also learned that Finnish students can be admitted to UAS without completing high school. They do not need the same education background as foreign applicants. This creates a real perception gap among Finnish employers and people about UAS status.
What really frustrates me is how universities act shocked in the media when partly accused of “selling false dreams”. They always shift the blame on agencies, even though they themselves participated in spreading misleading information.
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